[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

…? I might be wrong, but I thought your vote was the deciding factor of her death?

Insulting me doesn’t make you any more townie.

I just explained

…and this makes Nuclear scummy how?

You just said you intended to make me the deciding vote.

Read the rest of it please.

;-;

Come to think of it, fakeclaiming PR is something wolves can and will do in this setup, so this isn’t as villagery as I initially thought. Still wouldn’t expect him to say that as W in the moment there, though.

Looks a bit opportunistic in hindsight. But again, still don’t take w!Eli as the type to hardpush a villager at the very start of the game.

Especially not with this level of conviction in the read. I’ve never seen wolf Eli push a villager with confidence at any point.

For Marl: This is the type of thing I really hate, because it’s an easy opening wolves can and will go for. This is what I was talking about re: my anti-openwolfing spiel a few days back. Idk if he’s a villager or a wolf doing it, I think his alignment is essentially a coinflip rn and he’s my preferred vig shot, but either way it’s bad.

I’m reading this back and this still looks like min TMI’d Leafia as town in the first 100 posts of the game, possibly for the sake of being contrarian to the thread sentiment.

Zone ignoring the Leafia conundrum entirely is noteworthy. It’s possible he’s ignoring it because he knows Leafia’s a villager, so he doesn’t care; at the same time, though, as a wolf he might’ve felt obligated to talk about her because that was the main “thing” to talk about at the time. Leaning toward the second option. Marl’s description of Zone’s play as “not making waves” is apt, that’s how I remember his wolfgame as well, and the lack of Leafia discourse here might indicate he isn’t really trying to fit in during his opening string of posts.

Mmh, I haven’t really changed my mind on that. This is the single wolfiest thing min has done all game and it happened at the very start, when wolves most commonly make mistakes / are wolfy.

This is really cheap. Like, really really cheap. Easiest vote one could ever cast in that situation. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s AI.

This is a pure “what the heck” take, but villagery in a vacuum. The bolded part in particular. I dislike the preflip a lot on principle but I don’t think it’s wolfy, especially he doesn’t use it to push any agenda later on.

I did read the rest of it, and I agree with Nuclear.
You just seems upset that she (whether intentionally or not) baited you into voting Leafia.

I’m upset that they killed a villager.

I said I would vote to make sure no tie was forced.

Only reason I voted leafia is because you did.

The reason I don’t think wolf cloned would say this in the moment is the fact that wolves can and will fakeclaim PR here if they can get away with it. By mentioning fakeclaiming PRs, it’s like he’d be giving a clue to the villagers that’s framed as a joke, and making it harder for himself (and his team) to get away with fakeclaiming PRs later. I know this probably doesn’t make much sense, but it’s mostly a mindset read/interpretation and I’m trying to explain it the best I can.

I don’t think it’s clearing but I think it’s >rand V to say there.

“I need to hate on a town for making me vote Leaf”

Or you could have just not voted Leaf

it actually looks even more villagery now that we know leafia was not in wolfchat

Jan, you could have easily voted mafia Marl, you know you didn’t so you are forced to blame me

You need an excuse for when mafia Marl flips, when that happens you want to be able to say “NUCLEAR MADE ME DO IT! I AM NOT MARL’S TEAMMATE!”

personally i’d wagon whysper and vig pigeon
willing to hear other takes, though

I said several times what I was doing, and that nobody would like it too. Tell me, what would happen if I didn’t vote leafia?

Did you read my reasoning for v!Marl? If so, why do you disagree?

And that would make me force a tie, before you voted

Same.