[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

I actually reread City’s ISO yesterday and what I saw is that they voted Silviu first at EoD. When asked why, they first said they didn’t know, then that they wanted a third wagon to exist out of the top two which were Marl and Leafia.

I thought this was towny because I thought Marl and Leafia were t/t, but if Marl is mafia it actually makes perfect sense for w!City to vote elsewhere to avoid incrimination by voting Leafia first, and also to avoid pushing Marl over.

What I wrote in my notes overnight that I’ve had in my notes since early in D1 is that City and Marl are almost always aligned, i.e. I think if one is a wolf then the other also is. So I had linked their slots to each other because of something City did during D1 when they gave a readlist, and they specifically put that they read Marl as vig. I asked why they were discussing PRs publicly and they said “because I can”, which was NAI.

The thing is that I fully expected more of a push on Marl to develop, and/or for him to get NK’d, for the speculation, but absolutely nobody other than me commented on it. Even Marl didn’t say anything about it. And I brought it up once or twice before, but I also gave this explanation in the word vomit that I pasted when I entered the thread at SoD here.

So actually, I’m willing to read both City and Marl as mafia together because it makes a lot of sense as a team.

It does, however, also make me wolfread Vulgard because of his dismissive attitude toward City being town (similarly to Marl’s), his push on Clownzu which for some reason I still don’t entirely agree with, his sudden switch on the Marl push, and his dismissive read on me yesterDay. He’s still a priority slot I want to look at, but there’s also some truth to what Marl said about probably never going at each other’s throats if they were w/w, so I’m still thinking it over.

Yeah it does.

And instead of going in order, as I’d rather not wait to be the end, I’m going to say it now. I shot your supposed peek.

Sorry it got a bit long lol

Clown tbh. Reading back, makes me have less confidence on you. I found more confidence in marl and city.

So let’s work together here

Well I’m the Vig anyway, ofc I shot Pigeon as I was voting him the entire time yesterday.

And the reason I didn’t really try to push on him was just because I planned on shooting him last night anyway.

I believe Clownzu

This is solid. I didn’t think about some of this regarding City.

It would make sense for City not to want to take a stance in the marl v leaf thing, because it looks so bad for them to vote Leaf when Marl is their partner.

Instant scumread on Vul.

Eli was town. I fail to see how that makes me probably town.

Reason for calling me town is because I wasn’t going for the opportunistic push of a scumread, but was going for a general townread.

He says the same thing four times, no need to comment on it further.

Joke votes wind. Also backs out of the vul thing, not touching it until 15 seconds later.

And hes back. This time, he voted vul because vul joke voted sleep.

Don’t have anything to input on this.

This was marls push i believe, on vul.

I mean, hes right on at least three of them.

Explaining his townread on me.

Further explaining.

Agrees with vulgard, who he is currently voting.

Further explaining.

Names of people he wanted Nuclear to iso.

Mafia reads. At least one is proven town.

He never did explain that. Maybe it was because leafia was scumreading me based on me putting myself in the spotlight?

I have a lot of time on my hands.

You said earlier you scumread leafia.

He then instantly voted leafia.

Then silviu… for who knows why.

Then again votes leafia.
Thats about all of his d1 posts, which are 77/131 of his posts.

I wrote roughly the same in my overnight post so I guess I saved you the time of reading through it lol.

I can disagree with the philosophy of how you went about this, but fuck that.

Let’s win this now.

Well, the ones that aren’t filler/jokes

I am fine with Clown now, I just believe the tone of the claim.

Let me rethink

By the way, Its possible, but unlikely, that eli was vigi.

Unironically I think Vul looks a little better from this
I was confused by the joke sleep vote but I didn’t vote him for it

Keep that in mind. It is unlikely.

I think vig!Eli would’ve kept up with the game a bit more in order to know who to shoot

I have really liked Zone this game, but tbh he really falls into the clown replacement

I’ve had a PR read on Clownzu for a little while which is why I thought she was more likely town :sweat_smile:

I mean, the main reason I left my vote on them was to just allow credit for “Oh, yeah I shot them as you can see by me being the one voting them”

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I checked EOD1, and I found nothing that made me see any relation between Marl and City. However, I found this post, and realized that I have been flip-flopping about my stance about EOD1.

  • First I thought it’d be best to resolve the thunderdome, and prevent it from happening again at D2, which made me ignore Silviu’s slot.
  • Then I thought it should’ve been best to switch to Silviu D1, because the thunderdome looked like V/V.
  • Now I see a world where the thunderdome could be V/W, but… even if Marl is Goon, wouldn’t that just mean that scum has us in the palm of their hands all this time?