[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

All of Vul City and Marluxion vouched for each other. I’m inclined to believe that as the truth, although there could be some pocketing going on.

Marl sacrificing himself for Min was stupid.

He was getting rid of a person he knew was town for a person he thought was town.

Hm. Yea, no. This is bad.
The reads Squirrel shows me says that if it’s not me, then it’s cloned, but we aren’t in a luxurious position where we can afford a V/V wagon, so in my eyes, this game is pretty much over.

I feel like I’ve heard this before.

Yeah, when Marl said that the game is over if one of cloned/me is town, and I know I’m town, so the game really is over.

Quick question - is cloned usually considered to be lhf in this forum?

Honestly, from my perspective, it just means I’m competent and others aren’t. Aside from the fact I’ve been on all misyeet wagons, and I also voted wrong yesterday, but so has everyone else. I really don’t understand the wolfreads on you, still. It’s like you’re being wolfread for being wrong, which is not alignment indicative.

If you think it’s TMI and not an actual townread, sure. But it is a townread, and I think reaching the same conclusion as I is easy. You just have to look at that post and think: would scum Windward realistically write this? My answer was an easy “no.”

There’s also the fact I agree with everything you did in the early game. When I was backreading, I expected to see signs of agenda being pushed. After all, we’d already misyeeted twice by now. But I didn’t see anything like that from you. It was all reasonable takes I agreed with, and those takes were not on dead players who flipped village.

I don’t think reading me by the metric of another’s wolfplay is going to yield accurate results.

This seems off, considering your reads in this game. Regardless of your alignment, your reads have been poor. Are you sure that’s in your meta?

Oh, and by the way, if you’re using that game as a metric for my wolfplay, don’t. It’s been a long time and my play has evolved. Not only that, I accidentally bussed in that game, which gave me town credit.

Well, according to Zone, Squirrel isn’t cleared. :upside_down_face:

No, I have no idea why.

Remind me why you thought there was always a wolf between us? I don’t remember you ever explaining it, you just wrote something obtuse like “figure it out for yourselves.” I actually meant to ask you this yesterday, but forgot about it.

By the way, for everyone naming two people as their top scumreads: this isn’t going to work unless we establish a crossvote tomorrow. Votes will be locked, and you will have to commit to one.

Cuz I’m not seeing a whole lot of pressure on him but maybe that happened earlier this game and I didnt see it

By “between us,” I meant between me and min. I quoted the wrong statement.

Read the following:

He would be more confirmed than 75% but a ton of nuclears plays have been weird

cloned was wagonned at D3, so you should’ve been there to witness it, I think.

I mean, I think Nuclear played like a PR? I’m not going to pull a Marshal and go “I would’ve killed her if I was mafia, because I knew she was PR,” but still.

There have been some strange things she did, particularly when we massclaimed, but I don’t think they’re a cause for concern. I interpret this as Nuclear trying to make use of a terrible role, productively. You know, the fake redcheck stuff.

Quick question: If its such a bad role, why does it keep getting added

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Don’t ask me. Actually, don’t ask anyone on FoL, this isn’t a FoL setup.

It’s only good in the specific scenario where there’s only one wolf alive. Then it essentially functions as a cop, since the nightkill is mandatory.

A bad cop, cause it can mistake for PR’s too

i did, and i set a reminder for myself
will do it at lunch or something

you can think whatever you want but I don’t trust Vulgard lol

I don’t think City really vouched for Marl and Vul? they vouched for Marl at some point but they started the game with a scumread on Vul so that’s not entirely true.

yes because he wolfsides as town
(I’ve said this before and I’m not joking, it actually makes it very difficult to tell what his alignment is)

well, Silviu/Whysper
and Leafia
those both flipped town

I know, that’s why I said it’s stupid.

that’s why I was complaining
my townreads are only ever 50% accurate and yet people expect me to consistently yeet wolves in every game because they consider me to be a good player and automatically equate that to correct reads. I can reevaluate correctly but my reads are never 100% accurate right away as town, which is the same for pretty much everyone.

Oh right lol
That was also my second FM game and really all I remember was not being able to catch you as a wolf because you looked like you were solving.

I was just annoyed at the game and tried to make people read my posts but no one really did, I was trying to get them to actually do things instead of going “Wind thinks there’s a wolf between herself and Vulgard so it’s probably just Wind” or whatever they’re doing, but they looked at my statement that I’ve made idk how many times, and never looked at the reasons I gave, except for Marl because I had misinterpreted his statement yesterDay that there was likely a wolf between Vul/me as “there is likely a wolf among the loud players”, which is something he dropped anyway before he died, so idk what to think about that.

oh, oops
it had to do with both of you pushing cloned, actually
I was thinking regardless of what alignment cloned is, one of you two is probably a wolf because of the way you’ve been handling cloned’s slot and also each other.

min thinks both of you are wolves
you think both min and cloned are wolves
cloned thought both of you were wolves at some point but i’m not sure about his most recent read

do you see where i’m getting? there’s no way that doesn’t contain a wolf.

Then why bother saying it?