So basically, if you assume min is town despite world-o-nomics, Zone is the next “common denominator” between worlds.
I’m going to pretend you’re an innocent child for a moment. @min From your POV, which of these is more likely and why?
Actually, January/City/cloned is also an option I didn’t mention. Pretend I listed three from the start.
This is assuming min is town. In that world, either the Zone/City or the January/cloned clear has to be wrong.
I really shouldn’t be telling you to do things here if you’re town. If you’re town, we’re likely to lose at some point. The circumstances and worldbuilding don’t look good for you.
“cloned wolf” isn’t going to cut it anymore. Even if cloned is a wolf and we yeet him, we still have to find his teammates.
the players who are still alive are:
clonedcheese
January
Vulgard
Zone_Q11
min
City
Squirrel2412
WindwardAway
This is in playerlist order for simplicity btw.
I don’t care what Zone thinks about Squirrel, I’m not touching him.
I clear myself because I’m the one writing this. Feel free to make your own lists like this, though.
clonedcheese
January
Vulgard
Zone_Q11
min
City
so that’s 3 town and 3 wolves in some order or another.
Step 1: all possible teams
All possible teams fmpov include (feel free to quote this and replace it with my name instead of yours):
cloned/Jan/Vul
cloned/Jan/Zone
cloned/Jan/min
cloned/Jan/City
cloned/Vul/Zone
cloned/Vul/min
cloned/Vul/City
cloned/Zone/min
cloned/Zone/City
cloned/min/City
Jan/Vul/Zone
Jan/Vul/min
Jan/Vul/City
Jan/Zone/min
Jan/Zone/City
Jan/min/City
Vul/Zone/min
Vul/Zone/City
Vul/min/City
Zone/min/City
Step 2: removing pairings
Now, I’ll go for eliminating the least likely teams according to what’s been said in the thread. I’ll go by association reads and eliminate by unlikely pairs first.
I don’t think cloned and January stage wolf theatre over gyros, honestly. That blew up way more than it needed to.
cloned/Jan/Vul
cloned/Jan/Zone
cloned/Jan/min
cloned/Jan/City
cloned/Vul/Zone
cloned/Vul/min
cloned/Vul/City
cloned/Zone/min
cloned/Zone/City
Not seeing this one.
cloned/min/City
Not seeing these, and if any of these are the team then I have zero chance of solving this game.
Jan/Vul/Zone
Jan/Vul/min
Jan/Vul/City
Jan/Zone/min
Jan/Zone/City
Jan/min/City
Vul/Zone/min
Vul/Zone/City
Vul/min/City
Zone/min/City
Step 3: removing townreads
So now I’m left with the following possible teams. If I go ahead and trust that City is town, all these teams with City disappear:
cloned/Vul/Zone
cloned/Vul/min
cloned/Vul/City
cloned/Zone/min
cloned/Zone/City
Jan/Zone/min
Jan/Zone/City
Jan/min/City
Vul/Zone/min
Vul/Zone/City
Vul/min/City
Zone/min/City
Step 4: analyzing the results
There are only 5 teams left, assuming I’ve done this correctly. It’s always possible I made a wrong turn somewhere, so if someone else wants to do it as well, please do (and tag me so I can see it).
cloned/Vul/Zone
cloned/Vul/min
cloned/Zone/min
Jan/Zone/min
Vul/Zone/min
What does this tell us? There seems to only be one team that actually works with January on it, and yet there are 4 teams that work with min on it. There’s only one solve that includes v!Min so that’s worth taking into consideration.
If I decide to take out the remaining teams with both cloned and min on it (honestly because I forgot to do it earlier and I don’t want to rewrite this post), that leaves us with:
cloned/Vul/Zone
Jan/Zone/min
Vul/Zone/min
Zone is on all 3 teams
Vul and min are each on 2 teams
cloned and January are each on 1 team and never w/w with each other
Now you should be able to understand my thought process, and comment on which steps you think are right or wrong.
This is roughly where I land when I remove myself from the equation. Min fitting on the most teams, Zone as the secondary, particularly with min town.
This assumes the clears are correct, but yeah. My results are basically the same as yours, despite me using a slightly different configuration of players in my analysis.
At this point, I don’t want to remove City from teams just because I can. I don’t want to ignore worlds such as Zone being right on City and also town, for instance.
Squirrel should resolve automatically. If they survive to final 3, then whoever else is alive should snapvote them.
I don’t see the wolves keeping a clear alive this long.
right, I can put City back in and see what I get
I don’t think City and Zone are ever w/w because Zone was so interested in City’s slot
So, basically, I wouldn’t consider Squirrel at the moment and just kill them automatically if they are alive in something like the final 3 for some reason.
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Yeah, putting Zone and City together on a team implies you assume bussing. Which is something I’ve considered, but I don’t think it makes much sense for Zone to bus here, and City of all slots.
What kind of wolfteam could even afford to do this? Which living player could even win a final 3 with a clear alive?