[VFM] Elf Gold Rush - Game Over. Humans Win!

[Silviu200530]

He does look smart enough for that.

[Marluxion]

While i am alive i’m going to make a constant effort to keep vulgard honest

they are one of the few players i actually respect in this lobby and if i smell them wolfing i’m going to call it out

[Nuclear_Rehab]

Anyone else here play POE?

So scared and excited for the release of new league

[Silviu200530]

Sounds hard having fans.

[City]

@Marluxion

smell them wolfing

Sounds like something a wolf would do

[min]

All I can smell is fartic

[min]

City vaguely towny to me doe

[min]

Does anyone have any idea how to read zone here? Idek if I wanna try to

[Nuclear_Rehab]

Going to lean scum there

[WindwardAway]

@City

Current reads

january town
eli town
aelin town
Marl town vig

vulgard wolf

Why are you speculating on PRs

[WindwardAway]

@City

Does anyone agree/disagree?

I think maybe I agree on your townreads,still not sure of Vulgard.

[WindwardAway]

@Silviu200530

I feel that Marl is too focused on Vulgard, where observing the plays of mafia teammate Lukundo and Leafia in the previous game, I think that’s bad.

Not quite sure I understand what you’re saying. Marl wasn’t scum in that game.

[clonedcheese]

Greetings europeans

Available for like 5 mins, any questions

[WindwardAway]

@Silviu200530

Usually attracting unneccessary attention onto yourself is kind what wolves do.

It’s the opposite. Why attract attention to yourself and risk getting caught if mafia?

[Vulgard]

@Marluxion

Asking a low effort question to everyone provides scum the exact same benefit as open wolfing as a joke. An easy in to the conversation.

Like I said in that very post, I never do this, and I wanted to try it out for a change to see if I could get anything AI right away.

Calling that equivalent to openwolfing is, yet again, bad faith.

@Marluxion

I never implied they were. I was pointing out how it seemed odd for you calling min out for his weird townread on leafia and then literally a few posts later you form your own weird townread on leafia.

Okay, that makes more sense now, but calling that a townread is an exaggeration. I was positing a possibility to the thread.

@Marluxion

Why is this a consideration like… At all? A villager shouldn’t need to worry how someone would respond to their push if they think they’re a wolf. So why does leafia omgusing even matter?

It makes pushing her unproductive.

@Marluxion

so what were you looking for here also

If she would do anything other than OMGUS if I left her alone for a moment. And she kinda did.

@Marluxion

It’s the hero’s job to be the counterbalance to players like you who have extremely high deep wolf equity and on average will face near zero heat as the game progresses. If you’re a villager it’s also my responsibility to find you while i can because i dont trust anyone else in this game to do so once i’m gone.

So start by answering my questions about the inconsistencies in your push and we’ll move from there.

Probably the villageriest part about this whole thing.

@Marluxion

Basically all solving is done with speculation on interactions between unflipped players. Unless someone talks about policy or gameplay and is being generically wolfy, most reads will be pre-flipping on day 1.

I disagree, but that is the classic Principles Of Playing Mafia argument I’m not interested in having.

@City

Them wolfreading leafia for making a pocket read was pretty bad as pocket read is common enough basic read

I didn’t even wolfread her. At no point did I say I was wolfreading her. I just questioned her because her approach was odd.

@Marluxion

While i am alive i’m going to make a constant effort to keep vulgard honest

[Vulgard]

I disliked how many of Leafia’s early reads were preflips and how she immediately went to OMGUS her accusers, but the way she backed off from that without much prompting (if at all) and started reconsidering felt somewhat organic. I also know for a fact that OMGUS and preflips are in her town arsenal as well.

But since she does this as both alignments, I’m left with her thought progression / attitude change as the only potentially AI indicator, and I’m not sure if this makes her town aorn. Gun to head, I’d actually say Leafia’s town this game, but I’m nowhere near as confident on this as I would like to be.

Wind has seemed okay so far.

Marl’s more recent posts and approach to me have been better, and his explanation actually does make some sense. And it’s a villagery explanation, too.

/vote Nuclear_Rehab @Arete @Nightingale

[WindwardAway]

What’s the case on nuclear?

[City]

@WindwardAway

Why are you speculating on PRs

Because I can

[WindwardAway]

Maybe I should’ve said, why are you publicly speculating on PRs?

[Vulgard]

@WindwardAway

What’s the case on nuclear?

His lack of interest in the game is concerning, considering that was how he approached the game as W in the last game I played with him. And by that I mean, he posted, but didn’t really do anything of note.

We’re over 1200 posts in, and he’s been here for a while, so.