[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - šŸ˜¹ Pirates (Town) Win!

Derps is also very close to it due to us having allot of the similar mind set so us being on a similar page makes me confident in them being Town.

Mel is just pocketing all the villagers

But I donā€™t think he bussed Mole like he would as scum?

Derps is known to be a Busser as scum and I just donā€™t see that here.

Thatā€™s what I want you to think

That right there I believe comes more from Town!Derps

went through sulitā€™s like most recent 50 posts
doesnā€™t seem like enough to justify a lynchā€¦ yet.
time for Gorta

every time I see this im like ā€œwhat in tarnationā€
at least this time i noticed he moved it a little later.

this didnā€™t age well

who is this wolf do you htink

leafia has her things too which i will go over soon

By the way, here are my townreads.

Derps - Not seeing him W this game, sorry. Explained this a couple of times, but it boils down to ā€œwolf Derps doesnā€™t spend the entirety of D2 discrediting my push on his partner and starting counterwagons, heā€™s too self-aware for that.ā€ Might be something he learned, but overall, I donā€™t think heā€™s been playing the game like his wolf self. Heā€™s been too random and some of his posts showcase a lack of TMI, I think I brought them up at some point.

Centuries - Gamer, and also reminiscent of his towngames. I think heā€™s been solving in a distinctly town!Centuries way, where he keeps doubting and is slightly paranoid, but has a whimsical energy. Itā€™s difficult to phrase in a way that makes sense as a logical argument, but thatā€™s what Iā€™m sticking with.

Io - A wolf justā€¦ never plays like this. Io has been too bizarre this game and their pushes make too little sense for them to be a wolf. I think they genuinely believe what they are saying, the level of performativeness is way too high. I donā€™t agree with them, but I think it makes them town.

Intensify ā€“ Subbed into a towny slot. The previous player here was Wisp, who was scumread by Mole in a really bizarre, unbelievable way. Wispā€™s reactions to the push and Moleā€™s attitude toward Wisp make me think ā€œMole was trying to push town and failingā€ and not ā€œMole was distancing with his partner.ā€ Re-evaluate later in the game. I think Wisp has also been fairly towny on an independent level.

PsychoKing ā€“ Subbed into CatLover, who had emotional posts dunking on Mole. Now, I donā€™t think it was unfakeable as W/W, but they had also had some towny posts earlier, where they focused on solving. They also had excellent, pure tone, although that matters a bit less. Re-evaluate in YeetLo, just like the Wisp slot; make sure to look at it holistically.

Flameo - Simply put, I think they have been way too pure this game to be a wolf. Some of their posts ooze good tone and villagery thinking. While their voting history looks really poor (caused ash yeet day 1, late vote on Mole day 2), I donā€™t think voting history is all that matters. Probably the first slot that should be re-evaluated later, but make sure to look at it holistically, like I said above. Iā€™m personally going with ā€œtownā€ for now.

Everyone else is a bunch of people I have varied reads on. I should note that if gorta flips scum, Leafia is almost 100% spewed town, because thatā€™ll mark the second time she dunked on a wolf interaction-wise and I donā€™t think she busses twice? Donā€™t clear her entirely, but put her way off the table until, like, f5 or f3.

These are my legacy townread takes.

These are also the people I donā€™t want to yeet today and who I want to work with until EoD. Obviously, the villagers among the players who I didnā€™t list are welcome to cooperate as well.

anyways
if gorta is lynched and flips wolf,
this is what happens:
leafia is likely town, as Vulgard said
Io has a higher chance of wolf

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(i think i forgot many of my things here, so ill come back and quote this if i get any more.)
accidentally hit reply too early whoops

Just pointing this out.

Centuries meh.
Io wolf/V. I think V.
Wisp :/.
Flameo V.
Mole W.
Gorta lean W.
Sulit meh.
Leafia lean V.
CatLover V with reservations.
Derps meh.

Ordered:

Vulgard
Flameo
CatLover

Leafia

Io

Sulit
Derps
Centuries

Wisp

Gorta

Mole

Hmm.

I replaced in for Wisp reeeeee

Canā€™t be a coincidence that both nightkills wanted gorta to die eventually, can it?

if gorta is lynched and flips town,
leafia has a higher chance of wolf
Io has a higher chance of town
if sulit is lynched and flips wolf,
then leafia has a slightly higher chance of wolf,
and if sulit flips town,
then itā€™s not lookin too good for Io or leafia.
as i said above i forgot many things that i was going to say, so if i remember those ill come back and quote.

i replaced in for catlover ree

I couldnā€™t agree with you more on that.

This is false. Donā€™t listen to this.
Leafia in no way at all has a higher chance of being Wolf about the Gorta Flip. Because itā€™s T/T.
Suilt being lynched is irrelevant towards Leafia your just setting up for a Leafia Mislynch.
While your Town thinking wrong here or your scum intentionally wanting this. I donā€™t know.

Then you need help.

Gorta voters are 2 solid townreads + a flipped villager.
Wisp is getting voted by a wolf at EoD, a wolf who voteparked and wasnā€™t around at EoD. Probably expected to be saved by teammates?
Coincidentally, gortaā€™s vote puts ash above Mole. Wispā€™s vote puts gorta equal to ash. Flameoā€™s vote decides the outcome.
VCA is going to be significantly easier after tonight.

Gorta sits on the CW, but this time Flameo latevotes Mole.
Centuries spends his second day in a row on a vanity wagon while a wolf is a major wagon. I think thatā€™s >rand V.
Io + Derps + gorta form a CW to Mole. As far as I remember, it had a chance of doing something before Elephas, CatLover and finally Flameo slammed their votes on Mole. If wolves were hesitating to bus, it probably finally happened within those three. CatLover/Flameo, since Elephas is a flipped villager.

Bussers in these two, leaning Flameo if anything.

Sulit + Wazza didnā€™t vote, interestingly enough. Moleā€™s vote on me was just antispew.