[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

Derps is also very close to it due to us having allot of the similar mind set so us being on a similar page makes me confident in them being Town.

Mel is just pocketing all the villagers

But I don’t think he bussed Mole like he would as scum?

Derps is known to be a Busser as scum and I just don’t see that here.

That’s what I want you to think

That right there I believe comes more from Town!Derps

went through sulit’s like most recent 50 posts
doesn’t seem like enough to justify a lynch… yet.
time for Gorta

every time I see this im like ā€œwhat in tarnationā€
at least this time i noticed he moved it a little later.

this didn’t age well

who is this wolf do you htink

leafia has her things too which i will go over soon

By the way, here are my townreads.

Derps - Not seeing him W this game, sorry. Explained this a couple of times, but it boils down to ā€œwolf Derps doesn’t spend the entirety of D2 discrediting my push on his partner and starting counterwagons, he’s too self-aware for that.ā€ Might be something he learned, but overall, I don’t think he’s been playing the game like his wolf self. He’s been too random and some of his posts showcase a lack of TMI, I think I brought them up at some point.

Centuries - Gamer, and also reminiscent of his towngames. I think he’s been solving in a distinctly town!Centuries way, where he keeps doubting and is slightly paranoid, but has a whimsical energy. It’s difficult to phrase in a way that makes sense as a logical argument, but that’s what I’m sticking with.

Io - A wolf just… never plays like this. Io has been too bizarre this game and their pushes make too little sense for them to be a wolf. I think they genuinely believe what they are saying, the level of performativeness is way too high. I don’t agree with them, but I think it makes them town.

Intensify – Subbed into a towny slot. The previous player here was Wisp, who was scumread by Mole in a really bizarre, unbelievable way. Wisp’s reactions to the push and Mole’s attitude toward Wisp make me think ā€œMole was trying to push town and failingā€ and not ā€œMole was distancing with his partner.ā€ Re-evaluate later in the game. I think Wisp has also been fairly towny on an independent level.

PsychoKing – Subbed into CatLover, who had emotional posts dunking on Mole. Now, I don’t think it was unfakeable as W/W, but they had also had some towny posts earlier, where they focused on solving. They also had excellent, pure tone, although that matters a bit less. Re-evaluate in YeetLo, just like the Wisp slot; make sure to look at it holistically.

Flameo - Simply put, I think they have been way too pure this game to be a wolf. Some of their posts ooze good tone and villagery thinking. While their voting history looks really poor (caused ash yeet day 1, late vote on Mole day 2), I don’t think voting history is all that matters. Probably the first slot that should be re-evaluated later, but make sure to look at it holistically, like I said above. I’m personally going with ā€œtownā€ for now.

Everyone else is a bunch of people I have varied reads on. I should note that if gorta flips scum, Leafia is almost 100% spewed town, because that’ll mark the second time she dunked on a wolf interaction-wise and I don’t think she busses twice? Don’t clear her entirely, but put her way off the table until, like, f5 or f3.

These are my legacy townread takes.

These are also the people I don’t want to yeet today and who I want to work with until EoD. Obviously, the villagers among the players who I didn’t list are welcome to cooperate as well.

anyways
if gorta is lynched and flips wolf,
this is what happens:
leafia is likely town, as Vulgard said
Io has a higher chance of wolf

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(i think i forgot many of my things here, so ill come back and quote this if i get any more.)
accidentally hit reply too early whoops

Just pointing this out.

Centuries meh.
Io wolf/V. I think V.
Wisp :/.
Flameo V.
Mole W.
Gorta lean W.
Sulit meh.
Leafia lean V.
CatLover V with reservations.
Derps meh.

Ordered:

Vulgard
Flameo
CatLover

Leafia

Io

Sulit
Derps
Centuries

Wisp

Gorta

Mole

Hmm.

I replaced in for Wisp reeeeee

Can’t be a coincidence that both nightkills wanted gorta to die eventually, can it?

if gorta is lynched and flips town,
leafia has a higher chance of wolf
Io has a higher chance of town
if sulit is lynched and flips wolf,
then leafia has a slightly higher chance of wolf,
and if sulit flips town,
then it’s not lookin too good for Io or leafia.
as i said above i forgot many things that i was going to say, so if i remember those ill come back and quote.

i replaced in for catlover ree

I couldn’t agree with you more on that.

This is false. Don’t listen to this.
Leafia in no way at all has a higher chance of being Wolf about the Gorta Flip. Because it’s T/T.
Suilt being lynched is irrelevant towards Leafia your just setting up for a Leafia Mislynch.
While your Town thinking wrong here or your scum intentionally wanting this. I don’t know.

Then you need help.

Gorta voters are 2 solid townreads + a flipped villager.
Wisp is getting voted by a wolf at EoD, a wolf who voteparked and wasn’t around at EoD. Probably expected to be saved by teammates?
Coincidentally, gorta’s vote puts ash above Mole. Wisp’s vote puts gorta equal to ash. Flameo’s vote decides the outcome.
VCA is going to be significantly easier after tonight.

Gorta sits on the CW, but this time Flameo latevotes Mole.
Centuries spends his second day in a row on a vanity wagon while a wolf is a major wagon. I think that’s >rand V.
Io + Derps + gorta form a CW to Mole. As far as I remember, it had a chance of doing something before Elephas, CatLover and finally Flameo slammed their votes on Mole. If wolves were hesitating to bus, it probably finally happened within those three. CatLover/Flameo, since Elephas is a flipped villager.

Bussers in these two, leaning Flameo if anything.

Sulit + Wazza didn’t vote, interestingly enough. Mole’s vote on me was just antispew.