[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Wisp]

its definitely there, it should be at least

[Wisp]

ya it is, don’t know how u missed that

[CallMeIo]

@Leafia

Because you’re being just like how I was in Insurgency, my first game ever on this site and I was scum that game. You’re sheeping me like crazy and just parroting what I say basically. Mostly out of fear of being picketed though like how I was in my second game on the site by Alice.

Yes I’m TRing you.
Not sure if I’m really sheeping you.
I’ve been voting according to my own agenda not yours or anyone else’s.

[CallMeIo]

@Leafia

You bring up a lot of good points here and you could very well be correct about Mole. It’s definitely a possibility and honestly, Ele has moved up a bit in my reads list lately so I suppose it’s possible that he’s town, so I’m willing to switch to voting Moleland and seeing where it takes us. Besides, you’ve moved into my towncore lately and I trust your judgement.

/vote Moleland @Arete

@Wisp

Personally I think Cat’s posts are well thought out when they arent apologizing, idk if that’s some kind of weird gimmick

Vulgard definitely looks a lot better
I’m not sold on Sulit being a wolf, because of past experiences with them

I’ll go back to Mole, the fact that there was no movement around Moles train near EoD spooked me, but he hands down has the worst ISO out of everyone

/vote Mole

Mole is Probably Elephas partner so I don’t mind this yeet.

@Wisp

Melo just feels like they are open wolfing, probably comes off as a meme, given my stance on Katze earlier, but I really can’t understand what they are trying to accomplish, and the advocating votes on themself is NAI towards scummy

Meme? No it’s no meme. It’s called making sure Town doesn’t repeat what they did yesterday.

[CallMeIo]

It’s NAI towards Town.

[CallMeIo]

Not scum

[Wisp]

fuck no it isnt
just like not self-preserving

[CallMeIo]

@Flameo

@Leafia

Starting to consider the possibility that I was wrong about Ele being scum, but I want to see how Vulgard reacts to the wagon on him before deciding one way or another. Because Elephas didn’t consider another possibility.

That possibility is that Katze was the N1 kill to set up a mislynch on Vulgard.

The fact remains that wolves won’t usually kill a ppl later that has a townread on them, no matter how weak it is, especially this early.

I mean, it’s possible. Just not likely.

Occam’s razor.

Also, Vulgard being a wagon has to do with Vulgard’s posts being scummy. It does not have to be related.

@Elephas

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Balancing_Possibilities_Versus_Probabilities

A good tool.

Off I go again.

Oh wow, I am positively surprised to see Occam’s razor actually being referenced here.

Yeah I’m more inclined that this is the partner over Mole.

[Wisp]

@CallMeIo
whats your read on Ele, disregarding mechanical? info
also the correct play is to not vote in either of you

[CallMeIo]

@Elephas

Hm.

I suppose one more won’t harm anyone.

/vote Moleland @DatBird

Yeah.
Flameo more likely.

[CallMeIo]

@Wisp

ya it is, don’t know how u missed that

That was after your post.

[Wisp]

in Joat worlds you think, us yeeting you makes Ele lock!wolf? is that what this is?
even if lets say that is true, we lynch the joat, you, and then maybe we follow up with burying Ele, who may in fact just be the other Joat…

It will always be correct to vote outside of this, after witnessing how disastrous this almost was in another playthrough of this setup on Dark Lord Potter

[CallMeIo]

@Wisp

@CallMeIo
whats your read on Ele, disregarding mechanical? info
also the correct play is to not vote in either of you

What’s your read on Flameo?
I won’t allow harm to come to town again like it did Day 1.

[CallMeIo]

@Wisp

in Joat worlds you think, us yeeting you makes Ele lock!wolf? is that what this is?
even if lets say that is true, we lynch the joat, you, and then maybe we follow up with burying Ele, who may in fact just be the other Joat…

It will always be correct to vote outside of this, after witnessing how disastrous this almost was in another playthrough of this setup on Dark Lord Potter

You getting rid of me is a sacrifice I’d be willing to take to save a town member getting pushed by scum.

[Wisp]

that makes absolutely no sense, when the only thing you know for a fact, is the flips of both dead players, and your own alignment

[CallMeIo]

@Wisp

fuck no it isnt
just like not self-preserving

It’s called not allowing scum to get the mislynch they want to get.
Allowing scum to struggle and casually slip along the way.

[CatLover]

I agree with Wiisp. I think that even if CallMeIo is a real JoaT, that this “thunderdome” should not be the main focus. Especially with a motion detector result of all things! It could mean a myriad of possibilities and we should talk about something else!.

What about my case on Vulgard? Anybody want to talk about that with me? I spent a long time on it and I would like everyone’s thoughts on it!

[Wisp]

because every mislynch, is the lynch wolves wanted
what are you talking about

[CallMeIo]

@Wisp

that makes absolutely no sense, when the only thing you know for a fact, is the flips of both dead players, and your own alignment

I’m been playing FM for a long while and I know when Scum is manipulating wagons and believe me they are.
I also know what team makes certain night kills and if a push is Town indicative of scum indicative and some other stuff as well.
Using that some players are pretty much Lock Town to me and do always flip Town.

[CallMeIo]

@Wisp

because every mislynch, is the lynch wolves wanted
what are you talking about

Nope.
When a wolf pushes for a mislynch but doesn’t get that person lynched they didn’t get what they want.