[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[CallMeIo]

If you want to wait till later fine.
But don’t wait till MYLO/LYLO

[Vulgard]

@CallMeIo

Yes it does.
And I have explained myself.
If people are wolf reading me for stating on how I feel the thread presents currently is for scum then don’t say I didn’t warn yeah.

I’ll consider it when it makes sense to consider it.
Sorry, but I don’t follow what you say at all, and I think other people share this sentiment. I’m not discouraging you from playing the game, though.

@CallMeIo

But I don’t want to go into MYLO/LYLO with 3 scum.
So don’t play bad and let that happen alright?

Well, right now I’m trying to bury a wolf.

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

You say you wolfread him, but when it comes to actually yeeting him, you aren’t really trying to make that happen.

You make up excuses like “this is not going to gain traction” or “people are voting elsewhere.” Okay, but… there are significantly more villagers than wolves. They can be swayed, and they should, if you have a solid wolfread.

Also, if not now, then when are you going to yeet Wisp? Are you going to wait until YeetLo and hope that you do not die until then? What if a villager does not believe you and votes incorrectly at that point?

Your perspective doesn’t really make much sense to me.

[CallMeIo]

I do think Mole has a good chance to flip wolf.
But I’m paranoid that the wolf team might be dominant in the thread.
Like the people I suspect all voted Mole I believe.

[Vulgard]

If I am still alive around day 4, and high volume / content / presence posters are all still alive, and we have not yeeted any wolves, that is the point when re-evaluation is in order.

[Vulgard]

Right now I just want to remove the players who are giving me the most red flags, that being Mole, Leafia, and sulit (still).

Leafia has trended way down after her LAMIST declarations, and I think her attempts at solving are a little bit lackluster.

[CallMeIo]

I think she’s just misdirected and getting manipulated by scum here.

[Vulgard]

Admittedly, sulit’s response to me was almost a 1:1 match when compared to her last towngame, but I still have cold feet and I don’t want to hand her a free clear based on that alone.

[CallMeIo]

Read Flameo please

[CallMeIo]

Trust me when I say Wazza is Town.
I’m almost 100% Centuries is as well.

[Vulgard]

I brought up the fact that reading Leafia confuses me, and her response to that was a string of posts which boiled down to “I am very town this game, even though I am hard to read.” Maybe I’m misinterpreting it, but that is the impression I got. It felt like she was putting on a performance to prove her towniness when it was being contested.

@CallMeIo

Read Flameo

I already have, a few posts earlier. I called them town overall. I didn’t post an ISO because I didn’t feel the need for it. To summarize, I think Flameo’s posts have been very pure, a bit like CatLover’s. While I dislike their play, I don’t think it’s necessarily scummy, and even though their early vote initially gave me a red flag, I have rescinded wolfreading Flameo for it since then.

[CallMeIo]

@Leafia

Take me for example. Have I done anything that I absolutely wouldn’t have done as scum in a million years? Nope. Have I done anything I wouldn’t do as town in a million years? Also nope. I’d agree with Vulgard honestly on how hard I am to read. Possibly one of the toughest players to metaread on the site because of how similar my town and scum games are, which I definitely think will help in games where I’m scum. I will admit that I have said and/or done things I’d be unlikely to do as scum, but then again, I’ve probably said and/or done things this game that I’d be unlikely to do as town as well. All in all, I’m not sure I deserve to be in anyone’s towncore this early in the game, even if I’m pleased that Flameo has me in theirs.

@Leafia

I’ll also admit that I have said things for the sole purpose of getting towncred, although while I can understand that looking like a scummy thing to do, I think even townies want people to read them as town so that their opinions and views are listened to, which is why it can be NAI as well.

@Vulgard
Look at this.

[Vulgard]

These are the posts I’m referring to as “performance to show her towniness.”

And I think it’s scummy, because it comes from a place of needing to prove your towniness. Villagers don’t need to prove they are town, they just are town. Unless they are widely suspected and need to provide arguments, they don’t have to do this.

[CallMeIo]

Flameo only has them in theirs because Flameo is trying to Pocket Leafia.

[CallMeIo]

If I’m right on them being scum

[Centuries]

Leafia is like…
She will OMGUS
She will LAMIST
She will agree with everything you say as long as you TR her
She isn’t really self aware though

@CallMeIo

@Leafia

Take me for example. Have I done anything that I absolutely wouldn’t have done as scum in a million years? Nope. Have I done anything I wouldn’t do as town in a million years? Also nope. I’d agree with Vulgard honestly on how hard I am to read. Possibly one of the toughest players to metaread on the site because of how similar my town and scum games are, which I definitely think will help in games where I’m scum. I will admit that I have said and/or done things I’d be unlikely to do as scum, but then again, I’ve probably said and/or done things this game that I’d be unlikely to do as town as well. All in all, I’m not sure I deserve to be in anyone’s towncore this early in the game, even if I’m pleased that Flameo has me in theirs.

This

@CallMeIo

@Leafia

I’ll also admit that I have said things for the sole purpose of getting towncred, although while I can understand that looking like a scummy thing to do, I think even townies want people to read them as town so that their opinions and views are listened to, which is why it can be NAI as well.

and this is too self aware

yeah i said im not using meta to read her i just wanted to state that

[Vulgard]

@Vulgard

These are the posts I’m referring to as “performance to show her towniness.”

It might seem strange, because she is not actually saying that she is town in either of these posts… but the self-evaluation and outright calling herself wolfy is framed in a way that she is honest with us and as such, town.

[CallMeIo]

@Vulgard

These are the posts I’m referring to as “performance to show her towniness.”

And I think it’s scummy, because it comes from a place of needing to prove your towniness. Villagers don’t need to prove they are town, they just are town. Unless they are widely suspected and need to provide arguments, they don’t have to do this.

I think it’s more NAI?

[CallMeIo]

That posts is entirely Playstyle based.

[CallMeIo]

@Vulgard

@Vulgard

These are the posts I’m referring to as “performance to show her towniness.”

It might seem strange, because she is not actually saying that she is town in either of these posts… but the self-evaluation and outright calling herself wolfy is framed in a way that she is honest with us and as such, town.

It was more of them saying they did nothing to be Town cored for them anything.