[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - šŸ˜¹ Pirates (Town) Win!

hi

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why like

confusion

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Want me to go through every case of you shading me?

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It doesnā€™t work like that.

  1. You can be wrong.
  2. The people voting you can be of either alignment and we wonā€™t know for certain until very late into the game.

If your only reasoning for the vote is that Iā€™m scumreading you and townreading your scumreads, then yes, itā€™s OMGUS. Itā€™s calling me a wolf because my reads are not aligned with yours, and because Iā€™m pushing you. You previously said that you wouldnā€™t read me until day 3, even though I had mostly the same reads as the reads I have right now. Why did that not trigger a red flag for you back then?

I suspect itā€™s because the read wasnā€™t real to begin with and it still isnā€™t.

Megatron got back around to this post that they forgot about. @Moleland your whole case is based onā€¦ ā€œWiisp has some useless posts and ew I hate self-metaā€¦ā€?

I actually said I will understand your alignment if you Push off of scum onto town then I will know you are a wolf.

And how do you know Iā€™m pushing off of scum into town? The people Iā€™ve pushed havenā€™t flipped.

Iā€™d love nothing more.

Donā€™t forget this addendum.

Sorry Megatron, you are quite right. Let me point out other posts Since then that prove my point

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Thatā€™s fair. It could be lolpreflip bias, but Iā€™m pretty sure it isnā€™t

I isoed gorta and didnā€™t get anything out of it other than we agree on mole

mrr

Itā€™s not a case. He said that he disliked one thing Wisp did, and tacked on some other reason, and is now using that as a super solid read which also makes me a wolf because Iā€™m defending Wisp.

Itā€™s nonsensical, it hasnā€™t changed much, and itā€™s one of the primary reasons Iā€™m pushing Mole. His treatment of the Wisp wolfread hasnā€™t been consistent with what a villager should be doing about their wolfreads. The fact they call me a wolf because I defend their wolfread, which they havenā€™t been trying to push at all, is baffling. I can still be an incorrect villager, but I suppose that possibility went out the window the moment I started to push Mole. At least, for Mole it did.

His legacy is to push his accuser instead of pushing Wisp. If heā€™s still convinced Wisp is scum, why not push Wisp over me as his legacy? He found Wisp independently scummy, but he only sees me as scummy because Iā€™m defending Wisp. If Iā€™m Wispā€™s partner, why does it matter to Mole which wolf heā€™s pushing?

I really hope youā€™re not a villager whoā€™s OMGUSing and giving me few reasons to find you as town, because I think the way youā€™ve been playing is really baffling.

And for the record, I donā€™t even think Wisp is 100% town. There is room for doubt I have right now, mainly because I found their latest posts less good than the previous ones. But Mole isnā€™t trying to convince me Wisp is scum. Mole is just OMGUSing me and preflipping me/Wisp as wolf partners. Thatā€™sā€¦ not going to get anywhere. That doesnā€™t help town, and it also looks suspiciously like antispew. Possibly, Mole is avoiding well-reasoned opinions, because they could be used against his team if he flips mafia.

This whole spiel also applies to Io, me and Elephas, but youā€™re townreading Io?

Elaborate. Iā€™m townreading all three people you listed at the moment.

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@Vulgard

They have stated no other reason for saying Iā€™m scum.

This logic is completely backwards. Me defending Wisp shouldnā€™t make me partners with Wisp. If Wisp is scum in his eyes, he should beā€¦ pushing Wisp. He shouldnā€™t be pushing me, because I could still be town defending a wolf. It happens. From his perspective, pushing Wisp should yield a higher chance of yeeting a wolf. Isnā€™t that what you want as a villager?

But instead, heā€™s pushing me. And Iā€™m pretty sure the reason is because Iā€™m pushing Mole and Wisp isnā€™t.

And you think I should be scumreading Io just because they failed to provide adequate reasoning for you being scum?

Here you claim I wasnā€™t reading the game when Katze didnā€™t claim that those were townreads iirc

I did because I want to play this game, but I also want to play this game, so I didnā€™t try to post fluff and such

Here you say that I am basically town, but still call me a SL

JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE VOTE ME THAT DOESNā€™T MAKE ME A WOLF

Here you act like I get scum signals from all of those names WHEN I STATED THAT I WAS GOING TO ISO AND READ THOSE SLOTS (you also did a similar trick with Katze)