[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

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#2321

Can you do something other than complaining about my play? If you think I’m town, it’s pointless to keep evaluating me, so you should go read other people.

Also, hearing you call me complacent is funny, considering you consistently provide little to no reasoning for your reads. I still think you’re town, and I believe that the type of stubbornness you are presenting right now is town indicative for you, but please.

Why are you consistently concerned about this? I have not even begun to take you apart, my focus is not on you. Do something other than arguing about whether two posts of yours are LAMIST or not.

#2322

I always assume my reads are better than everyone else and assume everyone else thinks the same

#2323

I would hate Lo’s play style as either alignment, there is me answering that question

It’s also not something that Mole can really answer,
Just saying

Anyways I am clocking in for work now

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#2324

Now you have dodged the question long enough. It’s important to crack down on your mindset and I would like an answer that’s not calling my question intellectually dishonest.

#2325

A neutral way to ask that question is “How would Town!Wisp perceive their reads compared to Lo’s”

#2326

I also believe I have been the opposite of complacent for the last ~30 posts I wrote, but I digress. My WiM and postcount tends to fluctuate and randomly inflate, it’s just the way I play. A bit more spontaneous than the average methodical individual.

#2327

I think so, too. Are you scumreading Io for their playstyle or because they are genuinely scummy outside of “playstyle?”

#2328

What the vote count be tho?

#2329

To be honest, this is a very good idea. We can worry more about each other’s slots tomorrow. Today, Mole should be the lynch.

#2330

I mean, I guess! But they say basically the same thing. I wanted to get a more solid yes or no answer-type question. I don’t think that my question is leading. If everyone truly believes that their reads are the best reads ever, the answer will always be “yes” or “my reads are better” either way.

Now we have spent long enough on this. You keep dodging the question! Stop that! Give me a yes or no (or I don’t know) answer, or stop engaging with me at all!

#2331

In a court of Law, if I was your witness, the other side would object to that question as a leading question

#2332

Anyways, that’s enough about my thoughts on Vulgard. It should be rather apparent how I feel about this player now.

Moleland is the lynch today, but I think it is important we don’t tunnelvision on him. (As in, spend all our time thinking and talking to him and him only).

Going through people as I see their posts (starting at ~2120):

I think nothing Centuries has done is unfakeable as a wolf. They have consistent nonchalant tone, but they do not have the content to back-up me townreading this slot.

As I said before, CallMeIo is either a straight-up wolf, or a terrible villager. Either way, their alignment will be apparent with more flips. Just do not allow them to control thread.

Wiisp has dropped off slightly for me. They have so many one-liners that I could see coming from either alignment. Not concerned about them at the moment. Will re-read them overnight. I urge everyone else to as well.

Flameo is consistently solvey, and has a frustrated tone that feels incredibly genuine. They are also in the Io tunnel alongside me. They have provided many non-consensus takes, and have brought a level of analysis that is hard to fake as a wolf. They pick apart every single detail of a post they are responding to. Not a letter is ignored.

Moleland’s OMGUS and lack of true analysis strikes me as particularly anti-town, and very likely just comes from a wolf. They are not very concerned with the fact that they are dying today, and have not provided solid reasoning for any of their wolfreads.

Gorta needs to exist more. The fact that I cannot remember a single post from them means they are not contributing their fair share. I am fine with a gorta counterwagon.

Sulit seems to be standing on the sidelines. I honestly cannot determine their alignment based on their current posts. I do agree with them that Centuries could be utr - but I also feel this way about sulit themself.

Leafia is incredibly flip-floppy and LAMIST. It almost feels TWTBAW, when combined with their terrible push on my slot.

CatLover is in the same boat as Flameo for me, but I have slight concern over this slot. It may be a difference in posting-style, but something feels… off? Performative may be a better word.

SirDerpsAlot is extremely focused on Vulgard. They need to expand their horizons. A majority of their reads seem to be based on gut? I have yet to see a solid case come from this player. Nothing they have done is not fakeable as a wolf.

#2333

Thinking that way is thinking arrogantly to be honest. Not everyone is arrogant enough to think that their reads on someone are better than someone else’s reads on the same person.

#2334

I don’t think that’s a leading question at all.

#2335

You clearly have no intent on answering my question. I can only conclude that you are mafia if you are SO INTENT on dodging my line of questioning!

/vote moleland

The most recent votecount I could find does not have this near Majority, and this slot is very very likely mafia!!!

#2336

Players who have not been around, thus making it nearly impossible to read them:

Wazza

Short list, I know.

#2337

I think it’s funny that this statement is 4 hours before EOD. Locking Mole as the only viable yeet is pretty much tunnelvision.

He is my top scumread, though, so yeah.

Unfortunately, this is basically Derps’ townplay. The difference is that as a wolf, he does things for a reason, while as a villager he does things for no good reason and is genuinely clueless. He can fake that fairly well as a wolf, but I think subtle differences exist.

#2338

Please take a break from thread.

I can feel you starting to tunnel in on this player.
While I agree on your conclusion, I would appreciate your thoughts regarding players outside of Moleland.

Why do you have to call out my hypocrisy. I wanted Moleland to do that
Sad elephant noises

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#2339

I guess i’ll go fill my cats’ water bowl, or something. It’s just so frustrating when somebody keeps trying to dodge the question i’m using to try to understand his argument, and attack my intellectual honesty. :pouting_cat:

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#2340

To be clear this is a half-joke.

I wanted to see how Moleland reacted to that hypocritical statement, but it seems I failed in that regard.

Anyways, the point stands. Moleland may not be the lynch today, but do not tunnel on them. Expand your horizons.