[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

I’m going to feel really bad if you’re a wolf writing this, but this case looks convincing.

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It seems we both agree on our reads on CatLover’s slot, although our reasonings are different.

My reasoning was the basis that PK and CatLover’s slots basically feel as if they’re two different people (While they are, you get the point I’m trying to make)

Doublecheck it please, I didn’t go back and doublecheck some of these facts by rereading posts, but just gathered it overtime to keep it in mind.

Look, if this gamestate continues, final 5 is going to be something like Leafia/Io/sulit/PK/Wazza and we are never getting the wolves at this rate. Instead of tunneling each other, I would like you all to re-evaluate everyone. I’m trying to take things from scratch today, and I’m not sure if I’ll be able to re-read the entire game, but I will strive to view everyone objectively.

Everything CatLover has done, (notably):

Elephas, who I believe is now dead, was called out by CatLover because they voted Moleland. It honestly seemed like they wanted to avoid attention on scum earlygame (Which you can tell by their take on memeing during this game)

I will say, their posts are really along but…looking back on them, they feel…filled with repeating points as if they were made to look like they’re doing a lot of work.
Additionally, they didn’t like Katze’s slot.
CatLover attempted a CFD from Ash (A player they suspected from the start of the day) towards Gorta, who was also Town.
Flameo and CatLover agreed on a lot of things, including my existence. They were the reasons for my lynch not occuring in the past few days.
They placed Moleland on their top scumreads, keep in mind this does not matter as Moleland was a top scumread for most players.
Earlier they top townreaded Vulgard, now they were having doubts.
They pushed hard on Mole, but looking back on it and if you ISO it yourself, something feels off about it.

Moleland did this in a game where they were scum, unsure if they would know that or not.

And then we switch to PK who I won’t add to this post.

why am I going to be in final 5? I’m literally in everybody’s PoE?

Exactly. If you’re town, wolves never kill you.

But, I’ll be lynched? There’s no way to defend myself if a wagon hits me and I’m 100% sure everyone knows this by now.

…Exactly. Wolves want a potential easy misyeet wagon for final 5.

Fair enough.

Although, I feel like we will hit a scum today or tomorrow, I doubt we’ll keep going down the line.

/vote PsychoKang

I made my mind, my vote is going to sit here for now.

Vote Target Voted By Votes
sulit Leafia, CallMeIo 2/5
Leafia Vulgard 1/5
PsychoKang Flameo, Centuries, Wazza 3/5

/unvote

I was unaware I moved it towards L-2.

Vote Target Voted By Votes
sulit Leafia, CallMeIo 2/5
Leafia Vulgard 1/5
PsychoKang Flameo, Centuries 2/5

This seems… not W/W? I feel like a wolf would approach the interaction differently. More personally with Mole instead of indirectly suspecting him like this.

Like that. It reads as really bizarre if it’s W/W. It feels like it’s coming from the opposite alignment. A really strange thing to vote someone for, sure, but even more strange if the person you are voting is your partner. This type of distancing would come across as incredibly forced.

I think the fact they have been incredibly antagonistic toward me throughout d1/d2 is villagery. Put simply, I don’t think a wolf would spend the entire day actively trying to annoy me.

Statements like these sound like a slightly haughty villager wrote them. There is indirect snark in there.

Tons of these posts look terrible in hindsight, but I think it’s indicative of Flameo not having TMI this game rather than trying their best to misyeet me.

I’m not reading further, I still think this is just town.

Io is still blatant town to me, leaning Centuries town. Sulit I’m flip-flopping on, but I stopped flip-flopping on Leafia and I think she’s just a wolf. She’s saying she’s not fighting her yeet, but… she is. She’s even leading a wagon right now.

CatLover -> PK and Intensify -> Wisp are next priorities.
Wazza is literally >rand and I hope he’s a JOAT so he doesn’t have to be resolved. But… he hardclaimed VT. So yeah.
Hardclaiming VT was unironically the towniest thing he has done all game. Other than that, he really hasn’t been doing much.
Clearing him for that alone is bad, but I’m still getting LHF villager vibes. Nevertheless, the slot has to be resolved one way or another.

Oh yeah, I should re-read sulit too.

I want to wolfread Leafia, because she likes my posts when I focus on other people and expresses great annoyance when I’m against her, immediately changing her stance until I pivot to someone else again. The problem is that I feel like it’s NAI for her.

Even so, I think she’s been doing that a lot this game. She mostly complains about the people who try to vote her, and if not that, then she’s inexplicably sheeping Io’s reads, calling them ā€œcorrectā€ with no supporting evidence / arguments at all. I checked her progression on sulit and Leafia just kinda… called sulit a wolf with Flameo just because? No arguments for them being paired, no arguments for them being partners with Mole or independently wolfy? I just don’t get it. It seems so bizarre to do as scum here, which is why I’m still seeing a possibility of v!Leafia, but… come on. If you’re a villager, surely you can build a more convincing case than this.

Her response to gorta flipping town isn’t ā€œre-evaluation,ā€ it’s ā€œtunnel the 2 people I said I would tunnel, Io is going to help me out, gorta’s flip is bad but it’s his fault he got yeeted.ā€

I don’t understand. It’s really emotional play. That’s why I’m thinking it could come from a villager. But I also think it’s terrible play. Ugh.

The wolf motivation here would be ā€œget a misyeet,ā€ but it makes her look like absolute garbage if sulit is V and I’m not sure if she’s ready for it?