[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[sulit]

As town Wazza is way more aggressive and active and he is COMFORTABLE IN THE THREAD.

As scum if you look closer you can clearly see that his motivation is to get townread rather than to find scum, and he has a like, I don’t want to be here vibe.

The last two games I’ve seen him as scum he mostly lower posted D1 and barely posted any reads or actively pushed them.

Wazza as town is pretty obvious in my opinion because it’s pretty easy to see when he actually believes in his reads or just chill I’m the thread tbh.

I haven’t really seen the above yet and the fact he used the same argument he did as Replay, “I don’t want to post reads till asked because my reads are shit,” doesn’t inspire much more confidence in him from me tbh.

It’s also sucky you’re using the anon game to meta read me as I purposely tried to play different and tried out different methods to read people. I specifically played on an alt because I don’t want to be held to that standard of play in normal games.

[sulit]

@Wazza

ok so I instantly regret this game lmao.

@Wazza

hello gamer.

@Wazza

you aren’t gamer anymore and instead you have disappointed me greatly.

@Wazza

Haha,

locktown gang

@Wazza

Ok she’s lying.

@Wazza

Oh sorry.

@Wazza

This is…completely wrong.
I love playing scum
I despise playing Vanilla Town

@Wazza

Name those scumgames since 2/3 of my recent scumgames I played actively.

@Wazza

That Game I was a Vanilla Mafia Scum. I hate Vanillas.

Additionally, it was an Alt Game. I hate Alts.

Not to mention, I didn’t get into it and it wasn’t fun for me to play.

@Wazza

I stated I’m Vanilla Town because to be honest, I do not give a fuck about this game due to it.

Either way, Sulit created a push on me that was false and provided no evidence to back it up. Not a big fan of that.

@Wazza

(Additionally my inactivity this game is also caused by the fact I had this thread on Tracking, not Watching)

@Wazza

Because well…yolo.

@Wazza

…Yes?

She keeps saying she wants me voted and is encouraging others to join my wagon.

@Elephas

Perhaps do not sign up for a game that has ten Vanilla Town slots in the future.

I did it for the memes.

@Elephas

Have you read the game?

Considering I was pinged 10 minutes before I actually spoke, yes. I have read.

@Wazza

In actuality, you’re one of the players I’m not a fan off so far, but then again, I don’t know how you act.

@Wazza

@sulit

Your meta is p distinct

As scum you either don’t rlly do much and aim to get townread and as town you actually do things

My ‘meta’ doesn’t really exist. I just do whatever I feel like in all games.

@sulit

You haven’t really done anything and I’m waiting for you to actually post reads

…Why didn’t you ask for that then?

@sulit

Why’d you even sign up for the game if you didn’t plan on playing as a certain role :\

I’ll play it, it’s just that I won’t have fun with my lack of mechanics

@Wazza

I’m fine with Vanilla Mafia since I have someone to talk to.

But what I don’t like is playing on Alts, that was the main part.

Can we just stop talking about what I like and don’t like playing as? It’s not contributing towards the game.

@Wazza

If you’re talking about the fact I did the same thing as Replay then no, it’s just what I do every game.
I prefer to be asked for my reads than state them because they’re usually shit.

@Wazza

I’m going to do more tomorrow,

far too tired to bother posting anything about the game state and such.

Earlier in the game he seemed kinda jumpy and posts didn’t lead much if anywhere

Later all he did was argue with me tbh. He forgot about the game even though he’d posted earlier

Would really just like him to post more about actual things

Like other people.

Also said he read the thread but no reads except me scum for pushing him ):

[Vulgard]

Okay, this is better.

@sulit

It’s also sucky you’re using the anon game to meta read me as I purposely tried to play different and tried out different methods to read people. I specifically played on an alt because I don’t want to be held to that standard of play in normal games.

I don’t want to do that either, which is why I’m not going like “SULIT =/= VENUS, LOCKSCUM.”

[Vulgard]

Since you’re here, mind giving your opinion about my proposed towncore? Would be nice to have a group of people I can trust.

[sulit]

whatd you expect me to do

[sulit]

This is fine

Idk about leafia, I can’t read them for the life of me

[Leafia]

I figured that it would be nice to show where I stand on everyone. Regarding your interaction with Flameo, I’m not sure what to think of it currently. The only thing I’m virtually certain of is that it isn’t a W/W interaction.

[CallMeIo]

@Vulgard

I wanna build a towncore.

sulit
Wisp
CatLover
Elephas
Centuries

Leafia?

Who’s in?

Oh you left me out.
I’m not sure about Elephas, CatLover and Centuries.
They haven’t shown enough to me to call them Town.
May I ask why CatLover and Centuries?

[CallMeIo]

I don’t think Elephas having similar thoughts as you do makes them Town.
Couldn’t you do the same thing as scum?

[CallMeIo]

@CallMeIo

Tier S - Obvious Town
Io

Tier A - Most Likely Town
Vulgard
Wisp
Leafia

Tier B - Good Chance to be Town

Sulit
Flameo

Tier C - Not Sure
Katze
Ash
CatLover
Wazza
SirDerpsAllot
Centuries
Gorta

Tier D - Good Chance to be Scum
Elephas
Mole

Tier F - Obvious Scum
Who Knows

Like I want the Town Core to be Vulgard, Leafia, Wisp, Sulit and Myself.

[sulit]

I don’t really get why Leafia is getting cleared?

[Centuries]

is she

i agree she pushes agenda a lil bit too much for my liking but then

she’s not really harmful

[Centuries]

VV
Centuries

Elephas
Wisp
CatLover

V
Vulgard
Wazza
Sulit
Io
SDA
Leafia

Null and below
Gorta
Kat
Flameo
Mole
Ash

i think rn

[CallMeIo]

@Centuries

is she

i agree she pushes agenda a lil bit too much for my liking but then

she’s not really harmful

@Centuries

VV
Centuries

Elephas
Wisp
CatLover

V
Vulgard
Wazza
Sulit
Io
SDA
Leafia

Null and below
Gorta
Kat
Flameo
Mole
Ash

i think rn

@Vulgard
Why is Centuries Town Core?

[Leafia]

While I don’t agree with Sulit and Wiisp being in the towncore, die to me not being sure what to think about Sulit at the moment, she’s currently a scumlean of mine slightly, and Wiisp I’m currently town leaning, but not enough to be confident that she’s town, I do love Vulgard’s look and feel and I’m around 95% sure he’s town at the moment.

[Vulgard]

@CallMeIo

Oh you left me out.
I’m not sure about Elephas, CatLover and Centuries.
They haven’t shown enough to me to call them Town.
May I ask why CatLover and Centuries?

Why not?

@CallMeIo

I don’t think Elephas having similar thoughts as you do makes them Town.
Couldn’t you do the same thing as scum?

That’s not the crux of my read, the crux of my read is that they have a lot of volume, analysis, and several posts I like.

That said, there’s nothing they wrote which I find distinctly villagery, so this is probably the weakest read of the bunch.

@CallMeIo

@Vulgard
Why is Centuries Town Core?

Because he’s not powerwolfing and I read his intentions as pure.

[Centuries]

@Centuries

Flameo
Mole
Ash

i havent really voiced my thoughts on these people except maybe one ash thing but I’ll try to do something about it today(unless it ends tonight then d2)

[CallMeIo]

@Vulgard

@CallMeIo

Oh you left me out.
I’m not sure about Elephas, CatLover and Centuries.
They haven’t shown enough to me to call them Town.
May I ask why CatLover and Centuries?

Why not?

@CallMeIo

I don’t think Elephas having similar thoughts as you do makes them Town.
Couldn’t you do the same thing as scum?

That’s not the crux of my read, the crux of my read is that they have a lot of volume, analysis, and several posts I like.

That said, there’s nothing they wrote which I find distinctly villagery, so this is probably the weakest read of the bunch.

@CallMeIo

@Vulgard
Why is Centuries Town Core?

Because he’s not powerwolfing and I read his intentions as pure.

So you believe he will always Power wolf as scum?

[Vulgard]

I think there’s also a tonal difference. Town Centuries sounds more confused and flip-flops more, doesn’t have nearly as much confidence in his reads and I hardly ever see him pushing anyone very hard. He’s the type of villager who is more of a supporter than a leader.

So far, nothing he’s posted has given me a reason to change my evaluation of his slot.

[Vulgard]

Can you do some independent reading, progression and scrutiny in the thread instead of asking questions? For instance, I don’t really know why you’re pushing for a slightly different towncore.