[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - šŸ˜¹ Pirates (Town) Win!

Does scum do this?

Possible but ehh

Flameo light town read for now

Excited open is a good look for Sulit FMPOV

No idea. Itā€™s tough to say.
I do intend to play the game I signed up for, though :smiley:

Wouldā€™ve preferred to rand wolf again, but well.

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Wow. When I can actually read stuff, nobodyā€™s really posting in my absence, but after I go to sleep, hundreds of posts appear.

Rest of their early ISO is lackluster but I forget what scum Sulit is like so I might take a look at some scum Sulit games later donā€™t have time atm

Part of me tinfoils that Vul would say this as exactly wolf

But my tinfoils are always shit

Anywho I have to go to work Iā€™ll talk to you nerds on break

I genuinely prefer randing wolf because I enjoy knowing exactly whatā€™s going on and using that to screw people over. Itā€™s something I never have the opportunity to do in real life (quite the opposite), so yeah.

Anyway.

Mildly villagery, but also a terrible thing to say. Donā€™t just give up on reading people. FoL 29 is not a good metric because you didnā€™t have time to re-evaluate (early death) and because you didnā€™t really pour much effort into it. Any reads are valuable even if people call them dumb.

Why do you care if youā€™re town? Youā€™re not even getting votes.

VC incoming btw

I am going to try something new, and catch up with a few separated messages. I saw that my earlier posts were going rather unnoticed, unless it was someone looking for where I mentioned their name.

From somebody with no knowledge of these playersā€™ meta, I have to say I disagree with your conclusions. I have not seen any posts from Sulit that scream ā€œtown.ā€ Their play is a mixture of katzeā€™s memeing and Centuries relaxed demeanor, but they have far too many one-liners and useless posts for my liking.
I donā€™t see Sulit actively getting anything done, and they have been focused on a single player for quite some time.

Wiisp is also a fairly high poster. I just went back through their Isolation, and while I agree that their shitposting shows that they are comfortable, there are parts of their thought-process that I canā€™t qutie understand. Perhaps if these were cleared up, I may feel better about this player.

This still holds. And though I did not ask a question here, they never attempted to refute this.

I explained my thoughts behind every sentence in this post, and, once again, though I did not ask Wisp any questions in response, they did not acknowledge this post, and they are still voting me. For now, I will partially chalk it up to real-life circumstances not allowing this player to read my post. However, I do want to make sure it does not go unnoticed.
@Wisp after reading my responses to the above quote, has your mind changed at all on my slot?

Alsoā€¦ who is Mojoā€¦? ā€œyour first wall effectively had a list of 3 people you would vote, me/Vul/Mojoā€

I think I might not have enough experience to understand why this is villagery. Can you please explain? In my experience, claiming when under slight pressure can come from town or wolf alike. I also do not think we should promote this behavior.

(I am quoting this as it is the final sentence in this large post). I do want to let you know that I am acknowledging the existence of this post, but I will be waiting for Flameoā€™s responses to you before I give my opinions.
Please feel free to hold me to this if I forget.

Interesting. I have to say that I disagree on sulit, Wisp, and Leafia.
Sulit for reasons stated above
Wisp, because though I may agree with you that their shitposting seems to show a level of comfort in the thread, they are not high enough of a townread for me to put her in the towncore.
Leafia becauseā€¦ justā€¦ read their Isolation. The player is either a wolf, for their terrible logic, unnecessary wallpost that feels disingenuous, fluffposting, and OMGUSing, or they are TWTBAW. Either way, they do not get to be in my towncore.

Edit after reading the rest of your posts from this time period:
I have to say that I have started to like you more as this day has progressed. I disliked a few of your earlier posts, but all recent posts from you have felt extremely genuine, and un-stilted. I have found that you are providing takes that I did not think of, and even slightly changed my mind on a few slots, such as Wiisp.
I very much like that you are focused on forming a towncore rather than hunting wolves, and you are actively re-evaluating players, such as sulit. You can be in my towncore.

I agree on both Cat and Centuries.

My early towncore would be Elephas, Cat, Vulgard, Centuries.


On to the next post. Wish me luck.
This is rather outside of my comfort-zone

I feel like Iā€™ve said this very frequently and I always ended up saying it to a villager, so thatā€™s a town point in your favor, funnily enough.

Okay but I wanted to kill you in FoL 29 and I shouldā€™ve but instead went for my read instead because Iā€™m a moron.

I disagree

Because I know if I post them Iā€™ll get spam voted again, it happens in every game I post my reads in because people disagree.

We shouldnā€™t promote this, but I think itā€™s villagery because itā€™s stupid. You are removing yourself from the JOAT pool for no reason unless itā€™s random WIFOM. A wolf could theoretically do this, but I think most wolves wouldnā€™t.

Which is why I see it as >rand V.

Iā€™m contemplating whether I somehow progressed my reads exactly the way you wanted without knowing it, or if you said this to indirectly pocket me. Would be a high-level wolf play if itā€™s the latter.

Mole/Io/sulit/Flameo are people I want to kill. Maybe add Leafia to the pile.

Donā€™t know what to say about gorta, since he hasnā€™t posted. Kat isā€¦ kat. (Epic read.)

Thinking ash might be town based on his recent ISO post, and I townread everyone else to a varied extent.

Would be nice to get some real wagons going instead of vanity x7.

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I agree with these reads apart from the Sulit part.

Iā€™m fine with her dying, but I really have the feeling sheā€™s a spiteful Town.

Vote Count

Vote Target Voted by Votes
sulit katze 1/8
CallMeIo Flameo 1/8
Wiisp Leafia, SirDerpsAlot, Moleland 3/8
Moleland CallMeIo, Vulgard 2/8
ash4fun CatLover, Elephas 2/8
Wazza sulit 1/8
Elephas Wiisp 1/8
katze Centuries 1/8

@ me for any mistakes or future votes. (also put them on separate lines, makes it way easier if ur not gonna @ me

With Leafia and kat Iā€™m really on the fence, because I donā€™t think I can read them competently. They have a tendency to do tons of suspicious things as town.

This wagon composition is ew.

I think Iā€™m leaning town on Leafia, because I recall her scumgame being full of agenda, but the lack of agenda on day 1 might be a result of having low presence in thread as a team. Or something else. Which is why I donā€™t want to use that as an easy town pass for a dubious slot.

Kat seems to think Iā€™m a wolf and I canā€™t wait for the case that buries me.