[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

SirDerpsAlot · July 28, 2020, 2:36am

Cat lovers is new so I don’t know

katze · July 28, 2020, 2:40am

katze:

katze:

gonna jot down my thoughts on some slots as i look down the playerlist

SirDerpsALot

ngl derps is a bitch to read, he’s pretty aware of his scummeta and is moderately good at replicating his townmeta

i kind of think their posts are >rand V at the moment

SirDerpsAlot:

I decided I want to try harder this game and get actually better

this post scares me

because derps undoubtedly enjoys playing scum more than town

but that post is abnormal

it scares me because i feel like this is a post derps can write as an excuse to be more invested and blend in to his scum meta

he’s generally less invested as a villager and this post could be him actually wanting to change that, i don’t particularly remember derps ever making efforts of improving his towngame

imo don’t let derps live to LyLo (because he’s usually a wolf if hes alive at LyLo) but prob don’t yeet him yet

Wazza

i very commonly scumread Wazza in every game we play together so at this point i just try to avoid reading him if i can

their “im VT i hate this game” post is >rand V

thats all i really have to say

Centuries

i don’t really know conroys (thats centuries btw, i can call him that cause we’re cool like that ) scummeta

but i’ve consistently seen his posts as villagery

they don’t really feel like they have agenda in their posting

their thought process feels good and mostly transparent

i like conboi

CatLover

locktown because of their name and the fact they’re my hypoclaimed N0 check

(click this)

jokes aside i find myself agreeing with a lot of their posts

a couple things they’ve said have pinged me though as being lightly LAMIST or what feels like someone forcing themselves to be agreeable

CatLover:

Why don’t you townread me for the same reasons? I’m not saying you should, but I’m genuinely interested what you think I am lacking and what they have.

but i also just think this instance of it is more likely to come from a villager just because i think a wolf would be self aware enough to just not write it

Vulgard

their posts were most likely written by a villager

that’s the easiest way to describe my read on him but i know he hates it so i’ll try to explain it as best as i can

when vulgard is a villager, his posts have a certain level of genuineness that he is really not good at replicating as a wolf

his level of fake solving as a wolf is good at face value, but when you look at it under a microscope they’re much weaker posts than when he’s a villager

and his posts have not felt like his wolf posts

but generally when vulgard is a villager you’ll see one post and its like

“this post cannot ever come from wolf!Vulgard”

i have not seen that post

but i don’t hate his posts

so he’s probably just town

an_gorta_pratai

1 post lol

@an_gorta_pratai exist please

sulit

when sulit is a wolf they don’t want to exist

when sulit is a villager they usually want to exist

sulit wants to exist

sulit is very likely to be town

if sulits WiM suddenly drops in the next day (Day 2) then be very cautious of them as they can somewhat feign wanting to exist as a wolf but struggle to keep up the facade for long

her WiM sometimes dies as a villager too but its usually much later in the game

taking a break for now

hand hurts and ive already typed too much

continuing from here

CallMeIo

i didnt really remember too many of their posts initially so i took a reread

i dont really feel like they’re doing anything except making their own towncore

like they feel like they just exist in thread and i don’t feel like they add very much to it

CallMeIo:

However, I feel that Flameo’s response was genuine. I think scum would have said it differently.
He might be scum but I’m not going to jump to any conclusions yet.

like this is a unique thought

but there’s no meat to this bone, and the conclusion is second guessing themselves

Leafia:

Leafia: The hosts messed up and gave me her rolecard. Locktown.

CallMeIo:

Call me Bias.
But I TR Leafia for Bolded .

this too

why do you TR leafia for a joke that isn’t that uncommon on this site

the quotes kinda broke so im quarantining them here

[quote=“CallMeIo, post:346, topic:83078”]

Moleland:

CallMeIo:

Even though I’m Town)
[/quote]

What does this even mean?

It means that my Rolecard is Green!

[quote=“CallMeIo, post:357, topic:83078, full:true”]

[quote=“Moleland, post:264, topic:83078”]

Moleland:

CallMeIo:

(Even though I’m Town)
[/quote]

What does this even mean?
[/quote]

This comment is a ‘Duh’ moment. There’s no reason to add the ‘Even though I’m town’ part of this post. It’s not like you can be friendly neutral in this game.

/Vote callmelo

Well I didn’t want anyone to jump to any conclusions.
If I didn’t say what I said someone might misunderstand what I’m trying to say.

CallMeIo:

Moleland:

But… Why was this comment needed?

Re-Quote my post and remove that comment and see for yourself.

CallMeIo:

Wisp:

Tempted to just policy vote Mole for 429

But will you?
/Vote Mole
How about now?

CallMeIo:

Wisp:

I have a wolf PoE of like

Elephas/Mole/Flameo, dont know if that makes sense as a team, but on an individual level they all bring posts that I hate

I don’t mind this PoE.
Not sure on Flameo, but the other 2 seem fine.

CallMeIo:

Tier D - Good Chance to be Scum
Elephas
Mole

the progression on moleland here feels kinda wack

as far as i can tell i quoted every post in their ISO regarding moleland

wouldn’t mind seeing this player yeeted atm

wanna hear more progression from them though

Elephas

i just realized your profile picture wasn’t zulrah

i think elephas has a decent mindset

Elephas:

As I can only choose a single player to vote at a time, I have a Finger of Suspicion on Leafia, Wiisp, Vulgard. Vulgard is no longer in the thread or I would place a vote there.

i don’t know why i like this because i think it’s objectively not very AI but it shows that they’re using their vote with intent to actually get something out of someone in thread

plus the fact they have a tentative scumread on vulgard, see that i’ve expressed some level of competence in reading vulgard, and bring it up to me is a good look for them – not at all unfakable, but it’s notable

they also continue to interact with vulgard quite a bit, and it feels like they’re actually trying to solve that slot

i don’t think anything this slot has done is unfakable by a wolf but it’s fairly villagery

would not yeet today

Leafia

meh

their OMGUS attitude is consistent throughout most of their games, regardless of alignment

i’ve noticed progression in their posts (notably with wisp)

i don’t really know how to differentiate town and scum leafia honestly

if it becomes necessary to do so later, i might dive into her past games to see if i can find any notable differences

Centuries:

Leafia:

I’m curious about that too honestly.

Just want to say this is the one thing I’ve seen a lot in her scumgame and very little in her towngame lol

Leafia:

And why was bringing that up necessary when it doesn’t help one bit?

Centuries:

? It does help

as I said

I’m not willing to use meta on you

now, you just riding Vulgard takes while being very pockety

is a thing

Leafia:

I just agree with him about a lot of stuff and throwing shade on me does not help the town at all. It only helps scum.

Centuries:

Leafia:

throwing shade on me does not help the town at all. It only helps scum.

bad take but ok

Leafia:

It isn’t a bad take at all. You’re just reeking of agenda right now. Whether I’m just being paranoid though remains to be seen.

Centuries:

I have no reason to not voice my take on you especially since I have nothing to lose by saying that those posts of yours were scummy

I’d rather die with my reads/takes voiced than to just be deadweight town lol

Scum’s main reason for killing people is read accuracy + odds of flipping Joat

I lose nothing by saying it out loud

Leafia:

You’re just reeking of agenda right now.

No

Bad

No buzzwords

Buzzwords do not make your argument better

Leafia:

That’s only true in a world where I’m scum. Plus, saying that doesn’t help with solving because it doesn’t help with solving my slot and I’m not even sure if it’s even true. I’ve also had more time as scum. Way more time, so of course you’d see it more from scum!me. What you said is just mi sdcc leading shade.

i don’t like how they responded in this string of posts

but this isn’t abnormal for town!leafia

atm i don’t think the slot should live to LyLo if it comes to that without some serious evaluation

Moleland

i think ive seen people give moleland scumreads for antagonizing leafia

i don’t think it’s necessary but he did it in WoW:BFAv2 as Town (where Leafia was a LW) and thus i don’t think it should be taken as scum AI

don’t believe ive ever actually played a game with mole (i was spectating the above mentioned game, rooting for my sister )

quarantining this post because it's disgusting

Moleland:

@Wazza stop posting in Vldr and get over here since you are already at L - 4

moleland has 75 posts and i don’t feel like they’ve done much other than antagonize leafia, and while i don’t think specifically antagonizing leafia is scum!AI for mole

Moleland:

I feel Leaf going OMGUS is at best NAI. But I’m Tring them for other reasons rn.

Just waiting for gorta to make his alignment known a little before I make a more in depth readlist.

given the lack of content from this slot i’d like to see their readlist

Moleland:

Not sure I agree there especially.

But her play so far is 80% her scum game for me.

However there’s a new 20% I haven’t seen before and it’s either an evolved scum game… Or her town game which overwrites the other 80%. I’m calling it the latter for now.

while this post doesn’t really explain what they’re seeing in that 20%

i feel like this is a villagery post?

it’s… a weird reason to townread someone, and part of me feels like this was a townread first and a conclusion second

just don’t think a wolf writes this kind of read very often about a villager and i don’t think moleland/leafia is W/W

im not super confident on this because it’s about the only thing good the slot has imo and its only good because its fucking weird lmao

dinner time

/vote CallMeIo for meow

nyoom

lets see if i can finish the list

ash4fun

opening two posts are okay at a glance but don’t seem to have any sort of immediate followup

half of his iso proceeding that is just self defense with a few okay sounding posts sprinkled inbetween, but nothing super impressive

ash4fun:

I feel like a wolf here does more to make leafia look bad.

i feel like this lightly TMIs Leafia as a villager if ash flips W (and CatLover to an extent)

ash4fun:

Actually so far I think I might just be sheeping them now o.o

kinda hate this as well tbh

feels very performative/extra with the o.o at the end

ash4fun:

Okay so I’m halfway done with a full readslist. Going to dinner soon and will probably come back to finish it around 7 or smth.

not sure what timezone you’re in

but since its almost 10 here and im in the best timezone

impatient katze noises

fine with this getting yote today

katze

what did you expect

Wispp

last VC i saw this nerd was at 3 so i expect to see some spice here

"katze is openwolfing

Wisp:

Do I take katze’s post at face value?
I think yes

//vote Katze

Wisp:

/vote Katze
Wrong format before

Wisp:

I just don’t really see the point of posts like that… Maybe I’ll re-evaluate once I get home

Wisp:

Katze is open wolfing

i don’t really understand why people thought this was scummy

me making a joke about being in scumchat is a thing i’ve done in the past but that’s because i’m a fucking weirdo and wispp has only played with me once (and they replaced out because that game was a shitshow) so its not like they can know i’m a memer like that, even if i was doing similar jokes in that game i wouldn’t really put it past them to mentally block that games existence forever in their head

like, i don’t fully believe that wisp genuinely believes that that post is me openwolfing, but i don’t believe they wrote that in a fully serious matter

but if they genuinely believed that was me openwolfing then they’re a nerd

Wisp:

@CatLover
Why are u voting Katze?

judging by the fact they’re questioning someone elses vote on me i feel like it wasn’t serious though

Wisp:

But I have a personal hatred against people, playing the way that Katze plays, whether they are town, or mafia, or joking

fair tbh
but still
sad noises

i want to say that wisps posts on me “openwolfing” are AI but i don’t really feel like they lean a specific direction

Wisp:

Honestly I’d give Centuries and Vulgard town leans just for calling me town

i kind of vibe with this post but i don’t know why

its a dumb post

but i vibe

Wisp:

ohh look Vulgard voted himself, and claimed it was on a wolf
2 for 1 special we got in the early game

wait i didnt even notice this LMAO

im sorry wispp we’re not usually this bad

okay i am, but not vulgard

tbh reading the rest of their ISO i don’t lean very far in any direction

don’t think i want them yeeted yet just 'cause i don’t think they’re the scummiest person alive

their posts basically suggesting to PK wazza are kinda but meh

im slapping you a null

eager to see how you read my slot though since seeing how people treat a slot i have TMI on makes it easier to gauge their alignment

Flameo

f l a m e o
and flameo was her name-o

Flameo:

I like the fact that Katze had a similar question as me, which didn’t feel intentful.

i like the fact that flameo likes the fact that we had similar questions, which didn’t feel intentful

jokes aside the fact we melded here makes me like this slot a bit already

i think #788 is a post more likely to come from town than scum

its nitpicking at very specific aspects of a post that make it very clear that they’re closely reading everything vulgard is saying

and when they catch something they think is they don’t turn it into an immediate scumread or anything, they stop to consider possibilities from an objective standpoint

which doesn’t feel agenda-like

Flameo:

Catlover, town*
Elephas, town*
SirDerps, townier
Wazza, townier
Centuries, null
CallMeIo, null
Katze scummier
Ash, scummier

vulgard is then notably absent from this list

i feel like in worlds where this is a wolf and vulgard is a villager (i believe vulgard is a villager atm) that they’d never forget vulgard on this list

they explain it in a further post and it doesn’t look like they specifically forgot vulgard but i still think his absense is very notable

this slot kinda vibing well with me

now that i have given everybody high expectations for my slot with regards to content

here is my readlist

attempt of a real readlist

its not a joycrab i swear

joycat tier
katze

Townreads
[for the low price of $9.99, you can be here!]

Upper Townleans
soolit
Vulgard
Centuries

Townleans
CatLover
Elephas
Flameo

Weak Townleans
Moleland
Wazza
Derps

nullzone
Leafia
Wispp
an_gorta_pratai (play the game you signed up for please)

Bad Vibes Zone
ash4fun
CallMeIo

Wisp · July 28, 2020, 2:42am

I dont know how I feel about my spot in that list

SirDerpsAlot · July 28, 2020, 2:42am

I disagree here

SirDerpsAlot · July 28, 2020, 2:42am

And here

Wisp · July 28, 2020, 2:42am

use your words please

katze · July 28, 2020, 2:43am

shrug

there’s posts you’ve made that go both ways for me

seeing how people treat my spot in particular gives me more insight on their intentions than seeing them treat other slots because i know what my alignment is with a 100% certainty and i do not know anyone elses alignment with said certainty

katze · July 28, 2020, 2:45am

i mighta put cat a bit too high fwiw

but i wouldn’t yeet it today

and thats a large basis of what im looking for right now

CallMeIo · July 28, 2020, 2:45am

katze:

katze:

katze:

gonna jot down my thoughts on some slots as i look down the playerlist

SirDerpsALot

ngl derps is a bitch to read, he’s pretty aware of his scummeta and is moderately good at replicating his townmeta

i kind of think their posts are >rand V at the moment

SirDerpsAlot:

I decided I want to try harder this game and get actually better

this post scares me

because derps undoubtedly enjoys playing scum more than town

but that post is abnormal

it scares me because i feel like this is a post derps can write as an excuse to be more invested and blend in to his scum meta

he’s generally less invested as a villager and this post could be him actually wanting to change that, i don’t particularly remember derps ever making efforts of improving his towngame

imo don’t let derps live to LyLo (because he’s usually a wolf if hes alive at LyLo) but prob don’t yeet him yet

Wazza

i very commonly scumread Wazza in every game we play together so at this point i just try to avoid reading him if i can

their “im VT i hate this game” post is >rand V

thats all i really have to say

Centuries

i don’t really know conroys (thats centuries btw, i can call him that cause we’re cool like that ) scummeta

but i’ve consistently seen his posts as villagery

they don’t really feel like they have agenda in their posting

their thought process feels good and mostly transparent

i like conboi

CatLover

locktown because of their name and the fact they’re my hypoclaimed N0 check

(click this)

jokes aside i find myself agreeing with a lot of their posts

a couple things they’ve said have pinged me though as being lightly LAMIST or what feels like someone forcing themselves to be agreeable

CatLover:

Why don’t you townread me for the same reasons? I’m not saying you should, but I’m genuinely interested what you think I am lacking and what they have.

but i also just think this instance of it is more likely to come from a villager just because i think a wolf would be self aware enough to just not write it

Vulgard

their posts were most likely written by a villager

that’s the easiest way to describe my read on him but i know he hates it so i’ll try to explain it as best as i can

when vulgard is a villager, his posts have a certain level of genuineness that he is really not good at replicating as a wolf

his level of fake solving as a wolf is good at face value, but when you look at it under a microscope they’re much weaker posts than when he’s a villager

and his posts have not felt like his wolf posts

but generally when vulgard is a villager you’ll see one post and its like

“this post cannot ever come from wolf!Vulgard”

i have not seen that post

but i don’t hate his posts

so he’s probably just town

an_gorta_pratai

1 post lol

@an_gorta_pratai exist please

sulit

when sulit is a wolf they don’t want to exist

when sulit is a villager they usually want to exist

sulit wants to exist

sulit is very likely to be town

if sulits WiM suddenly drops in the next day (Day 2) then be very cautious of them as they can somewhat feign wanting to exist as a wolf but struggle to keep up the facade for long

her WiM sometimes dies as a villager too but its usually much later in the game

taking a break for now

hand hurts and ive already typed too much

continuing from here

CallMeIo

i didnt really remember too many of their posts initially so i took a reread

i dont really feel like they’re doing anything except making their own towncore

like they feel like they just exist in thread and i don’t feel like they add very much to it

CallMeIo:

However, I feel that Flameo’s response was genuine. I think scum would have said it differently.
He might be scum but I’m not going to jump to any conclusions yet.

like this is a unique thought

but there’s no meat to this bone, and the conclusion is second guessing themselves

Leafia:

Leafia: The hosts messed up and gave me her rolecard. Locktown.

CallMeIo:

Call me Bias.
But I TR Leafia for Bolded .

this too

why do you TR leafia for a joke that isn’t that uncommon on this site

the quotes kinda broke so im quarantining them here

[quote=“CallMeIo, post:346, topic:83078”]

Moleland:

CallMeIo:

Even though I’m Town)
[/quote]

What does this even mean?

It means that my Rolecard is Green!

[quote=“CallMeIo, post:357, topic:83078, full:true”]

[quote=“Moleland, post:264, topic:83078”]

Moleland:

CallMeIo:

(Even though I’m Town)
[/quote]

What does this even mean?
[/quote]

This comment is a ‘Duh’ moment. There’s no reason to add the ‘Even though I’m town’ part of this post. It’s not like you can be friendly neutral in this game.

/Vote callmelo

Well I didn’t want anyone to jump to any conclusions.
If I didn’t say what I said someone might misunderstand what I’m trying to say.

CallMeIo:

Moleland:

But… Why was this comment needed?

Re-Quote my post and remove that comment and see for yourself.

CallMeIo:

Wisp:

Tempted to just policy vote Mole for 429

But will you?
/Vote Mole
How about now?

CallMeIo:

Wisp:

I have a wolf PoE of like

Elephas/Mole/Flameo, dont know if that makes sense as a team, but on an individual level they all bring posts that I hate

I don’t mind this PoE.
Not sure on Flameo, but the other 2 seem fine.

CallMeIo:

Tier D - Good Chance to be Scum
Elephas
Mole

the progression on moleland here feels kinda wack

as far as i can tell i quoted every post in their ISO regarding moleland

wouldn’t mind seeing this player yeeted atm

wanna hear more progression from them though

Elephas

i just realized your profile picture wasn’t zulrah

i think elephas has a decent mindset

Elephas:

As I can only choose a single player to vote at a time, I have a Finger of Suspicion on Leafia, Wiisp, Vulgard. Vulgard is no longer in the thread or I would place a vote there.

i don’t know why i like this because i think it’s objectively not very AI but it shows that they’re using their vote with intent to actually get something out of someone in thread

plus the fact they have a tentative scumread on vulgard, see that i’ve expressed some level of competence in reading vulgard, and bring it up to me is a good look for them – not at all unfakable, but it’s notable

they also continue to interact with vulgard quite a bit, and it feels like they’re actually trying to solve that slot

i don’t think anything this slot has done is unfakable by a wolf but it’s fairly villagery

would not yeet today

Leafia

meh

their OMGUS attitude is consistent throughout most of their games, regardless of alignment

i’ve noticed progression in their posts (notably with wisp)

i don’t really know how to differentiate town and scum leafia honestly

if it becomes necessary to do so later, i might dive into her past games to see if i can find any notable differences

Centuries:

Leafia:

I’m curious about that too honestly.

Just want to say this is the one thing I’ve seen a lot in her scumgame and very little in her towngame lol

Leafia:

And why was bringing that up necessary when it doesn’t help one bit?

Centuries:

? It does help

as I said

I’m not willing to use meta on you

now, you just riding Vulgard takes while being very pockety

is a thing

Leafia:

I just agree with him about a lot of stuff and throwing shade on me does not help the town at all. It only helps scum.

Centuries:

Leafia:

throwing shade on me does not help the town at all. It only helps scum.

bad take but ok

Leafia:

It isn’t a bad take at all. You’re just reeking of agenda right now. Whether I’m just being paranoid though remains to be seen.

Centuries:

I have no reason to not voice my take on you especially since I have nothing to lose by saying that those posts of yours were scummy

I’d rather die with my reads/takes voiced than to just be deadweight town lol

Scum’s main reason for killing people is read accuracy + odds of flipping Joat

I lose nothing by saying it out loud

Leafia:

You’re just reeking of agenda right now.

No

Bad

No buzzwords

Buzzwords do not make your argument better

Leafia:

That’s only true in a world where I’m scum. Plus, saying that doesn’t help with solving because it doesn’t help with solving my slot and I’m not even sure if it’s even true. I’ve also had more time as scum. Way more time, so of course you’d see it more from scum!me. What you said is just mi sdcc leading shade.

i don’t like how they responded in this string of posts

but this isn’t abnormal for town!leafia

atm i don’t think the slot should live to LyLo if it comes to that without some serious evaluation

Moleland

i think ive seen people give moleland scumreads for antagonizing leafia

i don’t think it’s necessary but he did it in WoW:BFAv2 as Town (where Leafia was a LW) and thus i don’t think it should be taken as scum AI

don’t believe ive ever actually played a game with mole (i was spectating the above mentioned game, rooting for my sister )

quarantining this post because it's disgusting

Moleland:

@Wazza stop posting in Vldr and get over here since you are already at L - 4

moleland has 75 posts and i don’t feel like they’ve done much other than antagonize leafia, and while i don’t think specifically antagonizing leafia is scum!AI for mole

Moleland:

I feel Leaf going OMGUS is at best NAI. But I’m Tring them for other reasons rn.

Just waiting for gorta to make his alignment known a little before I make a more in depth readlist.

given the lack of content from this slot i’d like to see their readlist

Moleland:

Not sure I agree there especially.

But her play so far is 80% her scum game for me.

However there’s a new 20% I haven’t seen before and it’s either an evolved scum game… Or her town game which overwrites the other 80%. I’m calling it the latter for now.

while this post doesn’t really explain what they’re seeing in that 20%

i feel like this is a villagery post?

it’s… a weird reason to townread someone, and part of me feels like this was a townread first and a conclusion second

just don’t think a wolf writes this kind of read very often about a villager and i don’t think moleland/leafia is W/W

im not super confident on this because it’s about the only thing good the slot has imo and its only good because its fucking weird lmao

dinner time

/vote CallMeIo for meow

nyoom

lets see if i can finish the list

ash4fun

opening two posts are okay at a glance but don’t seem to have any sort of immediate followup

half of his iso proceeding that is just self defense with a few okay sounding posts sprinkled inbetween, but nothing super impressive

ash4fun:

I feel like a wolf here does more to make leafia look bad.

i feel like this lightly TMIs Leafia as a villager if ash flips W (and CatLover to an extent)

ash4fun:

Actually so far I think I might just be sheeping them now o.o

kinda hate this as well tbh

feels very performative/extra with the o.o at the end

ash4fun:

Okay so I’m halfway done with a full readslist. Going to dinner soon and will probably come back to finish it around 7 or smth.

not sure what timezone you’re in

but since its almost 10 here and im in the best timezone

impatient katze noises

fine with this getting yote today

katze

what did you expect

Wispp

last VC i saw this nerd was at 3 so i expect to see some spice here

"katze is openwolfing

Wisp:

Do I take katze’s post at face value?
I think yes

//vote Katze

Wisp:

/vote Katze
Wrong format before

Wisp:

I just don’t really see the point of posts like that… Maybe I’ll re-evaluate once I get home

Wisp:

Katze is open wolfing

i don’t really understand why people thought this was scummy

me making a joke about being in scumchat is a thing i’ve done in the past but that’s because i’m a fucking weirdo and wispp has only played with me once (and they replaced out because that game was a shitshow) so its not like they can know i’m a memer like that, even if i was doing similar jokes in that game i wouldn’t really put it past them to mentally block that games existence forever in their head

like, i don’t fully believe that wisp genuinely believes that that post is me openwolfing, but i don’t believe they wrote that in a fully serious matter

but if they genuinely believed that was me openwolfing then they’re a nerd

Wisp:

@CatLover
Why are u voting Katze?

judging by the fact they’re questioning someone elses vote on me i feel like it wasn’t serious though

Wisp:

But I have a personal hatred against people, playing the way that Katze plays, whether they are town, or mafia, or joking

fair tbh
but still
sad noises

i want to say that wisps posts on me “openwolfing” are AI but i don’t really feel like they lean a specific direction

Wisp:

Honestly I’d give Centuries and Vulgard town leans just for calling me town

i kind of vibe with this post but i don’t know why

its a dumb post

but i vibe

Wisp:

ohh look Vulgard voted himself, and claimed it was on a wolf
2 for 1 special we got in the early game

wait i didnt even notice this LMAO

im sorry wispp we’re not usually this bad

okay i am, but not vulgard

tbh reading the rest of their ISO i don’t lean very far in any direction

don’t think i want them yeeted yet just 'cause i don’t think they’re the scummiest person alive

their posts basically suggesting to PK wazza are kinda but meh

im slapping you a null

eager to see how you read my slot though since seeing how people treat a slot i have TMI on makes it easier to gauge their alignment

Flameo

f l a m e o
and flameo was her name-o

Flameo:

I like the fact that Katze had a similar question as me, which didn’t feel intentful.

i like the fact that flameo likes the fact that we had similar questions, which didn’t feel intentful

jokes aside the fact we melded here makes me like this slot a bit already

i think #788 is a post more likely to come from town than scum

its nitpicking at very specific aspects of a post that make it very clear that they’re closely reading everything vulgard is saying

and when they catch something they think is they don’t turn it into an immediate scumread or anything, they stop to consider possibilities from an objective standpoint

which doesn’t feel agenda-like

Flameo:

Catlover, town*
Elephas, town*
SirDerps, townier
Wazza, townier
Centuries, null
CallMeIo, null
Katze scummier
Ash, scummier

vulgard is then notably absent from this list

i feel like in worlds where this is a wolf and vulgard is a villager (i believe vulgard is a villager atm) that they’d never forget vulgard on this list

they explain it in a further post and it doesn’t look like they specifically forgot vulgard but i still think his absense is very notable

this slot kinda vibing well with me

now that i have given everybody high expectations for my slot with regards to content

here is my readlist

attempt of a real readlist

its not a joycrab i swear

joycat tier
katze

Townreads
[for the low price of $9.99, you can be here!]

Upper Townleans
soolit
Vulgard
Centuries

Townleans
CatLover
Elephas
Flameo

Weak Townleans
Moleland
Wazza
Derps

nullzone
Leafia
Wispp
an_gorta_pratai (play the game you signed up for please)

Bad Vibes Zone
ash4fun
CallMeIo

Does Leafia not stand out to you?

Wisp · July 28, 2020, 2:46am

I mean, a little selfish, but sure, I don’t think your alignment should matter, except in terms of like self-preservation, you can read context of votes without knowing the alignment of the person they are voting

CallMeIo · July 28, 2020, 2:46am

You changed your reasoning.

katze · July 28, 2020, 2:47am

in what way

i don’t think im comfortable giving leafia a strong read in either direction because leafia plays a very strange game as either alignment

the only game i townread her when she was town she literally essentially hardclaimed a nearly impossible to fakeclaim PR on D1

and then died N1

elaborate

katze · July 28, 2020, 2:48am

even in the game where i was an informed spectator who knew leafia was town i still thought she was being moderately wolfy

i don’t want to touch that slot right now

ash4fun · July 28, 2020, 2:58am

Woo readslist!

SirDerpsALot - Nulltown - Quite a few of these posts look low-effort, and that makes them look a bit agenda-y. But there’s other posts that just don’t make as much sense from scum, as well as a healthy bit of analysis later on. tbh this one could go either way.
Wazza - Scumread - There’s literally nothing here. And by literally nothing I mean a floating TR of sulit and otherwise sheeping vulgard. Certainly seems uninterested in the game (and has said as much). Potential for easy association reads but Im not gonna mess with that until a flip.
Centuries - Nullscum - Couple of good interactions, not a ton of analysis. Maybe it’s a bit early to expect it anyways. Not deathtunneling townie like homestuck. Has a readslist but besides that seems to be going after the “easy” questions for scum ie. explaining leafia behavior but not really trying to read her.
CatLover - Townread - As I found in my standalone iso of her, there’s a lot of analysis and solving, and it all seems very reasonable. (ie. not being forced into certain conclusions)
Vulgard - Scumlean - A ton of energy even out of the gate. Lots of posts and opinions, which I sorta like. But also, the reasoning behind a lot of this stuff seems kinda lacking to me. Idk but a fair bit makes more sense to me from scum than from town.
an_gorta_pratai - Null -

boom iso’d

sulit - Townlean - I feel like the main difference between here and DGADT is that sulit was just kinda generally suspicious of everything in that game. I’m not seeing any of that here. Also a bit more engagement. But seriously half of their iso is one word…
CallMeIo - Nullscum - A lot of what I read seemed to me like publicly rating other people’s actions, more than actually trying to develop reads. Although a lot of that might be coming from the copious exclamations.
Elephas - Townread - I’m liking their progressions a lot. Their reasoning is pretty clear to me in what they’re saying and it makes sense. They have some good solvey energy. kind of how I wish I could be playing if I had more time
Leafia - Townlean - They seem to be having Objectively Better Townplay™ than what I remember from Homestuck. I really like the change, my only issue is I can’t decide between “townier than towngame means town” and “deviation from towngame means scum”. Probably the former tbh.
Moleland - Scumread - This one might be worth a post of its own, but there’s quite a bit going on here. There’s no solving to speak of–if something pings them they call it scummy and move on, rather than any sort of followup or attempt to understand. Openly provoking and shading leafia.
ash4fun - Town - I’m not even gonna joke that I’m obvtown, ik my posts have been super underwhelming so far. I’m probably not gonna be able to keep up at one point or another, but I’m trying to contribute as best I can with everything that’s going on.
katze - Townread - A fair bit of reasonable takes. Not a ton of effort until #783. After that point I can read their progressions a lot better.
Wisp - Scumlean - There’s a lot of free opinions floating about. I feel like a lot of what they’ve done could easily be tmireads or parroting town consensus. Nothing really jumps out to me as towny in any way.
Flameo - Townlean - I feel like I can see where their head’s at. Pretty questioning approach to solving, I like that.

So now that I have a profile on everybody, hopefully I can engage a bit more meaningfully : )

Also I should probably do something with my vote
/vote Moleland

Chose them over wazza because wazza seemed pretty upset and that might have caused a bunch of the stuff I SR’d them on; if wazza improves a bunch I’ll reevaluate based on that.

Arete · July 28, 2020, 3:00am

Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
Wiisp	SirDerpsAlot, Moleland, Elephas	3/8
Moleland	CallMeIo, Vulgard, Leafia, ash4fun	4/8
ash4fun	CatLover, Flameo	2/8
Wazza	sulit	1/8
Elephas	Wiisp	1/8
katze	Centuries	1/8
CallMeIo	katze	1/8

Wisp · July 28, 2020, 3:03am

@ash4fun
what are my reads?
and you continue to talk about yourself being underwhelming
and who makes a read on themself?

Wisp · July 28, 2020, 3:04am

am I the only one that is taking Derps first post seriously?

SirDerpsAlot · July 28, 2020, 3:06am

Why is mole being voted

katze · July 28, 2020, 3:08am

knowing derps it doesn’t mean much

wouldn’t put it past them to write that as JOAT but I also wouldn’t put it past them to write it as VT/Scum

ash4fun · July 28, 2020, 3:14am

Without looking?

I don’t really know, I didn’t see much beyond one-off "this looks scummy/towny"s.

Going back and looking…

yeah it’s spread over like 50 posts. I could make a list based off of them but I don’t really want to.

eh, it’s not a read of myself, more an opinion on my own performance so far. And as for underwhelming, content aside I’m at like 1/3 my usual posting by this point. And what’s there half of it is trying to make up for me being confusing.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assess that I’m not doing so hot rn.

But I also know that’s not helping anything so I’ll shut up about it.