[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - šŸ˜¹ Pirates (Town) Win!

@Katze Ashā€™s posts have this really odd feeling to them. I canā€™t quite put it into words, but they feel odd. I canā€™t say if itā€™s the scummy type of odd, but thatā€™s possibly because I havenā€™t played many games with them. Some of it just kind of seems performative.

Another thing, we need to decide on a single lynch and have more votes there because if we donā€™t this happens

We do not give this to scum We are either going mole or ash today and thatā€™s final unless there is an CFD later, but everyone on each wagon you need to convince each other why said vote is the best because ties are not acceptable here

In regards to Moleland: I think mole is probably town. The paranoia of Leafia seems valid, Mole is pinging inactives for contribution, and their progression on slots like leafia seems fine. I just think this will flip town, but then again I havenā€™t seen too many Moleland scum games

In terms of todays execution we always go ash. I donā€™t know why in the hell yā€™all are voting Mole, but I think Mole is town. I wouldnā€™t lock that in, but we donā€™t get rid of Mole today

Seeing as how both the top wagons are town thatā€™s cool

I want to know why you think Ash is town. I mean I think itā€™s possible, like I said I donā€™t know what kind of odd it, but if you gave me a choice between mole and ash it would always be ash. If you can tell us why you think Ash is town and who you think we should execute that would be nice. Calling it a t/t wagon is great and all, but if you donā€™t provide alternatives it will always go between those two

Derps, if you have any objections you need to explain it all because I know you can, just try for us.

Donā€™t ever think I am trying to talk down to you either. I just want to see you improve your playstyle, like your reads can be good, but I want to see you take charge and explain stuff more.

Ok my full reads in order

Vulgard - In a box marked ā€˜Do not bother trying to read until day 3ā€™
Already elaborated on. Never lynch this

an_gorta_pratai - Lazy(But improving)town
I donā€™t think scum would allow Gorta to do so little in thread. However I do like most f their recent posts

Wazza - Unhelpfultown
Regrettably, I donā€™t think Wazzaā€™s scumbuds would allow him to be such a dick to people. Annoyingly, heā€™s town imo

Leafia - Weaktown
Make her irrated or angry and she spills her scumminess. Thatā€™s what happened for me. I was happy playing ā€˜Scum Leafiaā€™ Bingo. I was just waiting for her to self meta and say ā€œOnly town me would do Xā€ or ā€œIf I was scum I would do.Yā€ andā€¦ Huh. They said it wasnā€™t AI? That was unexpected. Maturing scum game or their town game? Not sure tbh - but want to believe the latter. Should re eval their read on me because it is a mix of Salt and misunderstanding my opening post/s at the moment.

sulit - Townlean
I think her push on Wazza came from a genuine place, and was dripping with Town motivation.

SirDerpsALot - Nulltown
This feels like a safe, normal derps game to me. No interest in lynching this slot

Eleph - Nullleantown
Is contributing well enough so far that I donā€™t have any misgivings here for now.

Centuries - Null
Cent is kindaā€¦ Existing? For me. Nothing theyā€™ve done makes me see them either way

katze - Null
There most recent posts are better, but they in general havenā€™t done enough to justify me reading them as anything other than null.

Flameo - Null
Their massive defence of Leafia was really odd, on top demamding me to have anything really to say when the game had barely started. I had a mild scumlean for that. But since then, Iā€™ve been happy with their posts and they have moved back to a null.

CatLover - Weak null
Similar to Cent butā€¦ Their posts seem pretty fluffy and useless tbh. Iā€™m going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now though.

CallMeIo - Nullscum
As others mentioned, their posts are pretty underwhelmingā€¦ But they seem to revel in this. I donā€™t like it.

ash4fun - Nullscum
Seem to be getting a lot of hate but Iā€™m not sure I agree tbh. A scumish ping for me is how they seem to only react to the thread rather than progress anything of their own.

Wisp - Weakscum
I hate people who self meta for no reason. They, in my experience, are scum. Strike 1. Add onto this a lot of weak questions of people I pretty sure this is scum.

Could we have a list of your most confident town to most confident scum read?

They are ordered as such

I think Mole is fine so far, better than ash.
I get where people are coming from with the not actually solving but thereā€™s a few reads sprinkled in his posts I donā€™t think he should be lynched today. I think mainly his trying to figure out the alignment of Leafia is towny.

Main thing Iā€™m worried about is ash kinda undercutting their own reads/posts

Mostly because Iā€™m Dreaming God they were confident enough to literally suicide bomb someone else

MeIo is just

Fine for now I guess?

I just scrolled through their ISO and thereā€™s some wtf posts, specifically calling votes for them good

But at the same time I think theyā€™re just town because idk if scum writes some of the stuff in their iso

That could be a tell of sorts for ash

@ash4fun could you link us some example town and scum games?

Could it come from newb scum?

I donā€™t want to believe that the scum are just in the inexperienced/newer players here because everytime we say that we are usually wrong

I donā€™t like the Ash wagon.
Ash is probably Town.

wagon composition

or how it was built