Who do you think is scum?
i need to fully reread what iāve missed since i was busy almost getting quickhammered while i was getting out of bed
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Especially elaborate on the Italy read because Iāve got NOTHING for Italy.
I donāt like having nothing.
Most of Italyās posts (at least the ones I read) are memes/fluff/jokes. There is some slight contribution here and there though and I do town gutread him.
This insistence from Chloe on being town takes apparent precedent over any other sort of read. This might simply be because sheās new, but was no one pressing her for reads during this time?
Hereās the OMGUS moment that I saw someone mentioning earlier (forget who, but thatās not important). This wasnāt where the Kai lynch started, but I suspect it was the reason that people started pushing on Kai, and it doesnāt seem terribly solid upon review.
That line before voting Mistā¦ āThe first time in foreverā doesnāt make sense being added here. Chloe had previously stated that this was her first forum game, thereās no compelling reason for her to have added this in as a reminder. It sticks out to me in a weird way.
On to Sulit nowā¦
Nine posts from Sulit in, we find the first attempt at a read (the only thing before this was asking for Iciās reads, and Ici was dead at this point).
Still not entirely sure how Chloeās insistence that she was town and that alone made her locktown, and Sulit doubles down on this. Still hasnāt given solid reads at this point outside of āPriestess and Merc likely town, Jake likely scumā (and we know that Jake ended up flipping town after this).
These three feel like Sulit trying to throw shade at Luxy (who again, was a townflip).
Never continues this process of isoing people. Damn shame, we could have gotten more info out of that.
On to Htm nowā¦
I might be tinfoiling on this, but it feels like a scumslip with Htm genuinely amazed that their slot was considered townlock by people.
Okay, thisā¦ This was a D1 post from Hippo. I get that Htm probably saw this soon after starting the thread, and it was new to them, but they had to realize how outdated this was.
Iām not a fan of the insistence upon your laziness and not wanting to read the whole thread. If you had said it only once, it might have felt more genuine, but just like with Chloe repeating āIām townā as a mantra, this starts to feel like youāre trying to sell the story.
I like the effort to give reads, and bonus points for looking at 3/4 of the previously established PoE (but you missed Hippo). But slight reads and gutreads arenāt terribly helpful. This is the start of townie behavior, but it needs to continue. Plus again mentioning the laziness.
This seems good on its own, but coupled with that earlier mantra of āI really donāt want to read the whole thread because lazinessā, it starts to feel like a justification for not placing your vote. Votes are alignment indicative, not placing the vote comes off as being afraid of placing the vote wrong and trying to keep up the appearance.
Okay, this sounds townie. I like it better. Itās not enough to cancel out the scummy things before it, mind you, but this opens up the possibility that the slot might be a townread.
Thisā¦ this one stuck with me for some reason when I first saw it, and now I think I know why. I might be missing something in the ISO, but the first post says that Hippo would need to be a townread to HTM in order for Poss to be a townread. Then, four posts later, HTM operates under the hypothetical that themselves and Possessed are both town, and shrinks the PoE accordinglyā¦ but still leaves Hippo as a nullread, when assuming that Possessed is town by HTMās own logic would logically paint Hippo as town as well. This could be an oversight or a deliberate act to leave Hippo in the PoE for a later push on the grounds of solving Possessedās slot, but it feels off to me in either case.
I donāt mind admitting error; this read was made without my awareness of the fact that you had your vote on Poss. I had seen your hypothetical where you and Possessed were both town (above) and mistook that for you having retracted your accusation. And Iām also liking an actual update on your progress catching up, at least more than I like āhavenāt read it all yet, feeling lazyā.
Thisā¦ I actually like this as a question to find scum. It works well against the tunneling scum who are insistent that a particular person be killed, because theyāve often built their whole narrative around that one person necessarily being scum.
Conculsion; Light scumread on HTM overall, I do think that we have better targets but this recent behavior is doing better. I look forward to seeing more townie behavior as you work your way through the thread.
catches breath
ā¦You know, in hindsight I probably should have put that in one of those collapsibles. That oneās on me, folks.
I was more surprised that I could be lock-town in a mountainous game. Itās basically impossible to lock someone as town in a mountainous. Thatās why I was surprised.
Yes I know they could have been outdated. Thatās why I asked for new reads if these were outdated
I hate self-meta but: Iām always like this in every game. Just go into one of my random games town or not and you will see 99% of the time I will be saying this.
Yeah I know gutreads arenāt helpful but it would take forever to read all the posts, so thatās why I posted it.
iād rather be lynched then vote incorrectly, but I did eventually do the ISO on Poss.
Oh you have a good point. It completely crossed my mind. I would remove Hippo from the PoE if Poss was town.
Thatās a dangerous game youāre playing Tbh. Iād never Townlean someone on fluff.
Ok rereading that ur right, Im an absolute idiot, I misread that as townreading when u said u dont think its likely they are all town my b.
The first quote, I guess I didnt go into probably because I was multitabbing, but I more thought it was a bit of tmi, Now these could be a joke but sometimes I missread sarcasm when it dont have a /s or something like that
I did, I didnt find it funny, and people have been actually using it as a argument not to lynch them. I thought u were doing the same, if its a meme, I would appreciate your actual opinion on their slot
Yeah fluff = NAI
Iām just explaining everything he did so I can get an accurate read. I townread him mainly off the small contributions and the gutread. As well he didnāt do anything that scummy.
chloe/sulit were absolutely one of the highest town reads locktown
but they didnāt really do anything which means they could totally be a slankwolf i guess
htm is actually doing stuff though so iād have to eval his ISO a lot closer to get a definitive opinion
- Datbird
- Italy - slight town
- Tangeld - most likely town
- Marshal
- Katze
- Priestess and Merc
Iād say any one of these could be scum if me and Poss are both town.
(I personally donāt think itās Italy or Tangeld though, not sure about the rest yet)
Everyoneās free to have their opinions, burn in not a big gut read fan. A gut read as town leaves the possibility for you to accuse someone incorrectly and cause a ML with no evidence, and a gut read as scum gives you an alibi on a ML.
āWell I guess my gut feeling was wrong, sorry guys ill only make real reads nowā.
You can also totally skip on someone who might be scum and clear them, which is the worst case of all. Iām still looking for the 2nd scum so I donāt want to fluffclear anyone yet. Id love for Italy to speak today or tomorrow though.