[VFM] Mountainous 15er - Town wins!

[Tangeld]

I still don’t know why we did that. Priestess was the closest to locktown we could get before a flip, there was zero reason to hang her there.

[katze]

fuck i accidentally replied early

marshal: priestess OR katze bad, 100%

katze: i know im good

priestess: kinda scummy but probably town

[DatBird]

My main reason was the sudden angendy push at the SOD

[Tangeld]

Whose push? Priestess’?

[DatBird]

Her and Merc

[Tangeld]

Both of their slots were abstaining at EoD. What is this push you speak of?

[DatBird]

SOD not EOD

[katze]

the beauty of this situation is

marshal was locktown with like, 3 super confident reads

and they were all wrong

marshal locktowned jeremy literally D1 and never reevaluated that slot

[Tangeld]

…So Priestess’ top scumread died in the night, she re-evaled and pushed you, she was basically conftown, and you still pushed her for the re-eval? I can’t see how you thought Priestess was actual scum.

[DatBird]

Cause she didnt re-eval when her last scumread died of Possessed, and if u saw the posts they were pulling straws

[Tangeld]

Please explain this logic more in-depth, and Kat, please pay attention to this.

[katze]

@anon97870008

Jeremy and Isaac were not on the same team, and neither of them did an exceptional play, but it was pretty decent!

is mom a fortune teller

[Tangeld]

Also, “her last scumread” was Hippo, the nightkill that made no sense.

[DatBird]

Just reread the interaction, I think I get my points off for why I scumread her

@anon97870008

There is only one real defense I have, and that’s:

I would have bullied Italy into participating.

With the same reason it can’t be Tangeld or Kat.

Slanking Italy can only happen when he’s scum together with someone who doesn’t know how to get him into trying.

So it can be only Datbird or Marshal.

@anon97870008

/vote Datbird
Die, lovely scum.

@anon97870008

Also, thank you scum for freeing me from the illbelieve that Hippolytus is scum. That’s an… interesting kill.

@DatBird

Why does this feel real fake

@DatBird

Marshal ok let’s say we have a poe of four people
Me
Priestess
Katze
And Tan
Who does ur gut say is evil. Ignore priestess weird statements today. Who seems like Italys scum partner

@DatBird

I feel its Priestess or Katze atm. Do u remember how much Katze wanted to flip Italy. Was it really that big of a push or could it have been distancing

@anon97870008

@DatBird Oh you starting to panic? Lul

@DatBird

Not at all. Lol

@anon97870008

Then explain this

@anon97870008

Why does me pushing you “feel fake” for you?

@DatBird

Cause it is a self meta on what u would have done as scum. I dont think towny Priestess would have said that at all

Then suddenly this also applies to Katze and Tan also. When u were considering getting rid of tan also yesterday.

U also say I couldnt get Italy to talk. Well if ur pulling self meta I will also. I get extreme anxiety and barely post as it is when scum. Unless I suddenly broke like 6 monthes of bad habits suddenly in a replacement match u and I both know that is bs.

So yeah that’s why I think it feels fake

@Mercenary

When u were considering getting rid of tan also yesterday.

Because often a scum flipping changes reads radically. Your point? That they should stay statical to hell?

@DatBird

But these arent reads, they are just saying someone cant be scum because they would yell at Italy to play while I wouldnt. It just feels half assed especially after I’m not having reads yesterday cause my scumread died but was town. But the same thing happened today but flip the scum and town roles. It’s just off

Also Merc u saw me in Mafia Academy do u really think this is in my scum meta honestly?

@Mercenary

lol selfmeta

@DatBird

Lol selfmeta I already said that. Priestess already did selfmeta also lol

@Mercenary

I don’t know because you just excused you not to play the entire game
you can say the same at my slot. You played with me and Priestess. Do you think it is my scum meta and that I wouldn’t have bitched my scummates to play when all I did that game was to bitch at my scumchat?

@Mercenary

It just felt really desesperate for an argument to defend yourself. You know that you slanked that entire game

@DatBird

/vote Priestess and Merc
Heres the agenda bois. She isnt reading my whole posts and just replying to the snippets that she can shade.

@Mercenary

. U both seemed in ur town meta, but today u seem to be trying to push an agenda hard.

Only one scum left and Priestess is between You/Marshal when I think Marshal is town. Not pushing for you would be literally insanity.

DatBird:

Wait what. I know I was busy a lot. But there was times where I was actively talking scum chat but not in the thread cause I had no clue what to say. And I said that multiple times

It’s still excusing yourself not to play. The fact is, you didn’t play, so I can’t say it is your meta because you didn’t play.

DatBird:

She isnt reading my whole posts and just replying to the snippets that she can shade.

You are really quick to put someone at L-1 when 3 votes are needed to lynch, aren’t you?
I’m only defending my hydra from being tunneled to hell by 1 scum + Marshal, who always tunnels until it is too late, at 1 day before LyLo. I’m not discussing your reads and your AtE crap because it does not matter.

Also I should have followed the advice I gave to Priestess. That arguing with scum would just make scum turn against us.

@DatBird

Only one scum left and Priestess is between You/Marshal when I think Marshal is town. Not pushing for you would be literally insanity.

I was between you two and Katze by yesterday’s flip. And Priestess’s opener felt really scummy today. So me not pushing you is also insanity

Mercenary:

It’s still excusing yourself not to play. The fact is, you didn’t play, so I can’t say it is your meta because you didn’t play.

You can check multiple of my scum games. It’s around the same amount of content

Mercenary:

You are really quick to put someone at L-1 when 3 votes are needed to lynch, aren’t you?

It’s called pressure. And if one of them quicklynches. It’s like we have our lynch for tomorrow

Mercenary:

I’m only defending my hydra from being tunneled to hell by 1 scum + Marshal,

Or just two towns

Mercenary:

who always tunnels until it is too late, at 1 day before LyLo. I’m not discussing your reads and your AtE crap because it does not matter.

No please do. I want u discuss them go ahead

Mercenary:

Also I should have followed the advice I gave to Priestess. That arguing with scum would just make scum turn against us.

whatever it doesnt apply to me

@DatBird

Now take this with a grain of salt as this is coming from my own pov where im town. Feel free to do the same but with ur own town

@DatBird

Mist has voted with alive players: Dat(1), Mercess (1), Marshal (1). The one for Marshal and Mercess is on his own lynch
Italy has voted with alive players: katze(2), Marshal(1), Mercess(1), Tangeld(1)
Ok honestly I’m not getting much more info from these flips.

@anon97870008

D1: Jeremy/Dat voted together with Mist. Makes sense, Jeremy is newbie scum, slanked, and Chemist told them who to vote in scumchat.
D2: Jeremy slanked and didn’t vote at all, together with Mist.
D3: Jeremy slanked and didn’t vote
D4: Datbird didn’t want to vote Possessed since he knew he’s town
D5: Datbird hammers Italy before EoD to get towncred, against the pleas of town to not hammer. But he wanted to be on the train at all costs

@DatBird

D1: Jeremy/Dat voted together with Mist. Makes sense, Jeremy is newbie scum, slanked, and Chemist told them who to vote in scumchat.
D2: Jeremy slanked and didn’t vote at all, together with Mist.
D3: Jeremy slanked and didn’t vote

Ok I cant tell u what he did during this time. As I have almost nothing from him during this time

Priestess:

D4: Datbird didn’t want to vote Possessed since he knew he’s town

This is so fucking agendy of a push. I townread possessed and I outright said that multiple times. Oh its tmi, u are saying. No it was just a read mainly from a form of reading called e-analysis

Priestess:

D5: Datbird hammers Italy before EoD to get towncred, against the pleas of town to not hammer. But he wanted to be on the train at all costs

Yes like 10 minutes before EoD when I said I was fine with his lynch all day and just didnt vote him as there was no resistance from anyone on his lynch and because for a majority of the day he was on L2 and I didnt want a scum to come in and quick hammer.

But yeah if this post doesnt come from scum Priestess idk what will convince yall

@Mercenary

@Tangeld @katze Please ping us when you get online

@DatBird

Yeah so you can spam them with nonsense, yeah whatever . My flip will solve this game or urs will. Doesnt matter

@DatBird

I feel for certain this is t v s. And either way we lynch one today and the other the next. Easy win

@Mercenary

@anon97870008 the last two posts

@DatBird

What about em

@Mercenary

we concluded that this is a bluff

@DatBird

Sure. Lynch me as long as they lynch you tomorrow

@DatBird

Doesnt matter I feel this is game solved at this point. Just gotta wait for one to two votes to decide wether we are doing it in two days or one

@anon97870008

We think it’s obvious that you don’t want to be lynched, even when you say that you are okay with it. This is a bluff.

@DatBird

/vote Datbird idgaf

@anon97870008

I see why Priestess would be so insane to vote herself as town. But you? Since when?

@DatBird

To prove a point. U need to be lynched and if I need to go down to do it just like Possessed I will.

@DatBird

We can afford exactly one more mislynch and If i have to. I will

@Mercenary

This is a bluff because it never helps town
you being dead doesn’t makes you right

@Mercenary

and as scum you look heroiks for today
no one is hammering your slot.

@DatBird

Yes it does. As u will not die tonight. Everyone who votes u dies. Hippo, possessed and now me. This no bluff. This is just determination

@DatBird

Ok then they will hammer urs or tie it up

@anon97870008

Wait… is that true?

@DatBird

Yep

@anon97870008

Why didn’t you say that earlier?

@DatBird

Cause I thought of it now

@anon97870008

That’s an interesting point.
Because I have no explanation why scum should kill Hippolytus.
I and him might have tunneled each other today again to death.
So you think that this kill was done to frame Merc and me?

@DatBird

That or to shut him up

@anon97870008

Why did neither Kat or Marshal die? That would have been the normal kills for tonight
Since they are both locktown.

@DatBird

It’s like the same logic as why would I kill HTM. He tr Italy and I sr him. It would just look bad for me

@Mercenary

The first nightkill was Icibalus, who never commented our slot. Obvious SPK.
The second nightkill was Nuclear, who voted Isaac, who was town. I think it was randed and scum was slanking.
The third nightkill was Luxy, who townread us at the time. Also a SPK.
The fourth nightkill was Sulit, who also abstained.
The fifth nightkill was Hippolytus, who was against Luxy but not against us afaik.

I think the answer is between Nuclear and Luxy. Hippolytus and Sulit may have been near the truth.
If there are no reasons to kill Nuclear, it was because a slanking scum was replaced by a scum who made kills.

@anon97870008

So you don’t think it’s possible that Italy decided to kill HTM?

@Mercenary

Priestess, I don’t think it is Dat.

@DatBird

Why would he. He was tring Italy. It makes no sense for Italy to kill him unless he randed.

[katze]

@Jeremy_Gonzalez

I’m sry I’m a noob

@Mistyx

I think this post is wolfy by trying to play the newbie card to deflect scumreads

would mist shade a scum partner d1

@Mistyx

I’m already getting Isaac and Jeremy mixed up

this could be performative, mist is allegedly a high level player, but do i think a flipped scum would mix up which brother is their scumbuddy?

[katze]

@Italy

all of us are dead because of marshal

this is ironic because this was D1 and it absolutely was true

[katze]

@Marshal

Jeremy: caught my fake TMI on Chloe, and also called out my hedgy shading on others.

Marshal:

i mean he did switch onto a townie which is not sorta good.

Jeremy_Gonzalez:

How do you know if chloe is townie?

Jeremy_Gonzalez:

Marshal, you literally keeping an eye on EVERYONE

this is why marshal TR jeremy

IIRC, this was jeremys first game

im not sure how convinced i am that a wolf makes these posts on their alleged first game

@Marshal

like jeremey calling out my fake TMI makes me really sure of townieness here

i honestly see why marshal TR this slot so hard

@Marshal

None of Jeremey geyxy or priestess should ever be touched.

haha irony

[DatBird]

@katze

IIRC, this was jeremys first game

I can confirm this

[katze]

i think i know who im voting

whos tonights big loser

[DatBird]