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Alice and I both played Day 2. Alice’s slot turned to Limestone day 3. That slot was narrowly lynched day 3, which saved town the game:
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Color Wheel Team Mafia Day 3 Votecount
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 5 Limestone NinjaPenguin (59), Relm (33), Creature (348), mendel (114), RADicate (69) 4 Archamedes Wyatt (56), Duskfall (144), FecalFeast (62), Limestone (139) 1 Relm Archamedes (89) 2 Not voting Lord_Darkblade (31), peach (2) End day at majority is enabled. With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority.
Limestone was lynched. They were: Mafia Goon .
Day 3 has ended.
Day 3 ended at 9:00 PM EDT on Sunday, July 28th, 2019 .
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Originally Posted by Mafia Host on July 24, 2019, 09:01:01 PM (#1552)
Color Wheel Team Mafia Day 1 Votecount
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 6 Lissa eevee (88), Duk3star (134), -Rosen (40), Contrainer (22), Mantichora (206), FTFlush (262) 4 [NSM] Mikey Marluxion (73), Nuxl (57), XnadrojX (6), Bunnelby (34) 2 Impeaceful Paranoia (35), Lissa (156) 1 Bunnelby Jalandh (58) 1 Duk3star tartina (23) 1 Contrainer Shattiel (58) 1 Mantichora Impeaceful (17) 1 FTFlush [NSM] Mikey (222) Lissa was lynched. They were: Mafia Goon .
Day 1 has ended.
Day 1 ended at 9:00 PM EDT on Wednesday, July 24th, 2019 .
Rn I’m pretty much hard-clearing Eevee’s and FTF’s team over them initiating a CFD onto W!Lissa on EoD1
For now I’d also put Rosen’s and Duk3’s team as strong town for solidifying the lynch, wouldn’t really reconsider this for most scenarios. Contrainer’s iffy here as he was in the thread when Lissa was tied and potentially before that and it effectively took until Rosen untied the wagons that he voted after one post from Lissa.
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Hi
WE FUCKIN KNEW LISSA SPOT WAS A BAD ONE, CALLED IT SO EARLY WOOOOH
Expected but sad to see empoof/Manti team dying, F tho
Got some pretty heavy suspicions that most of my team called out independently from one another, but I’ll wait a bit with calling anybody out until I see their subs performance. This is going to be juicy.
Tartina goat
Fin.
Ok but where was tartina? She didn’t even vote Lissa why? Just, where was she?
It’s hard to feel like a goat when your vote wasn’t actually on her in the end. Or that there was a towncore that you didn’t actually end up being a part of. etc etc.
Same thing in my thoughts. I’m really not liking Tartina’s slot ATM due to how they had no progression on Lissa and just called her a wolf and then switched their vote to Duk3 and then called it a day.
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Anyway I prepped this read list
Town read
MantiTown lean
Nuxl
FlushTown null
Eevee
Marl
- Rosen
ShattielNull
Tartina
Jalandh
Xnad [True Neutral]
DukeScum null
MikeyScum lean
Contrainer
ImpeacefulScum read
BunnelPeople I really want to solve today, in descending order:
- Bunnel
- Mikey
- Impeaceful
- Contrainer
I’m sorry I’m still using the D1 names but I’m also not sorry enough to bother myself to change it
Eh, I think I’d probably save Bunnel for later considering that Lissa was trying to self-pres on them.
Lissa’s spew on Impeaceful isn’t really a good look tbh, which is why he’s in my top suspects for today.
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yeah I kinda think impeaceful is just town
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is this actually a fucking thing that we’re doing right now
Why shouldn’t it?
This wagon formation is a fucking mess, it just stagnated on mikey for ages and now it’s shifting on to me while nothing else can get traction at all, and it’s fucking notable when you have people like contrainer and impeaceful and pretty much nobody wants to kill them over a 200 poster and my team. Lynching me today is an awful idea.
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yeah lissa’s reads on impeaceful are like a ping-pong ball
this is probably the case for others
take #1275 and #1408 cuz i still can’t multiquotethe answer to what happened here is “newcomb got home and has a strong wolfread”
So far here’s effectively Lissa’s thoughts on Impeaceful.
She was effectively calling him V before she was sealed to be the day’s lynch and then she flipped her read and was strong pushing on him. NAGL for him.
Additionally, Impeaceful was putting Mikey alongside Eevee and Manti, while voting for the other two despite Mikey being a top wagon. If Mikey is V then Impeaceful’s wolf equity soars.
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WE FUCKIN KNEW LISSA SPOT WAS A BAD ONE, CALLED IT SO EARLY WOOOOH
Expected but sad to see empoof/Manti team dying, F tho
Got some pretty heavy suspicions that most of my team called out independently from one another, but I’ll wait a bit with calling anybody out until I see their subs performance. This is going to be juicy.
Tartina goat
Fin.
Ok but where was tartina? She didn’t even vote Lissa why? Just, where was she?
It’s hard to feel like a goat when your vote wasn’t actually on her in the end. Or that there was a towncore that you didn’t actually end up being a part of. etc etc.
Same thing in my thoughts. I’m really not liking Tartina’s slot ATM due to how they had no progression on Lissa and just called her a wolf and then switched their vote to Duk3 and then called it a day.
i’ll get back to you later, remind me if i take too long
How did your slot SR Lissa from the start?
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Here are some thoughts from my team-mates.
Aside from the fact that Insomnia wants to tunnel Jalandh’s team to hell and back, iaafr made a few points last night that he wanted me to post at the SoD.
He doesn’t think Duk3 should be given that much towncred as well being he sees Duk3 as the most likely busser out of the six players on Lissa’s wagon due to his progression on Lissa. He disagrees with my Contrainer read as well due to how Lissa had her vote on Contrainer for most of the match. From this he believes that the most likely candidates for wolves are in tartina/Paranoia/duk3/xnadrojx/bunnelby/nuxl.
So rn we’re pretty much at different odds with each other on our scumspects.
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I think abovementioned might be a great way to discredit apoc.
Definition: you can out yourself as n1 watcher by asking apoc something along the lines of “you’re claiming to have been roleblocked butnkbody visited you this night. Explain”. Coukd be a way to mark you as towny.
Just a suggestion but feels pretty goodif we can turn it into a lynch
Post 1611. Close, but no cigar.
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Ok I re-read bunnelby and I think I might be convinced to vote him because of @Mikey read on him. I don’t know whether to vote him or not, I don’t want to tunnel someone
Other 2 that I don’t trust are @Lissa and @-Rosen
I Will put a vote on Lissa for the moment and I Will re-read these 2.
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I don t understand the votes on Mickey. He Is playing as a Town and for the Moment I trust him and I feel his messages genuine. He has changed his mind on his vote just like a townie does. A Wolf tries to be coherent with a vision.
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Hmm. @tartina can I get you to expand your feelings on Lissa and Duke?
On Lissa i Only have bad feelings… I feel like she would be so much better and so much leading as a townie.
She looks like defensive and carefull and I expect more from her as townie.Duk3 i explained myself, he ignored my question once, twice etc… until i changed the words of my question (I shouldn’t have done it). And i disliked his answer.
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Lets try this again. This time please try to not rip on my reads, I called duke out early and everyone was pushing me for it for $#@! reasons
Anyways blah blah red is wold so this is wolf, you know how it be
##Vote Jalandh
Now that the game has offically started and all
lowkey i had a super thin wolfread on you for that entrance last game
given you were a villager i think you’d post this in basically the same way regardless of alignment this time though
kinda reads like you feel obligated to post it again which is maybe slightly wolfy but meh, it’s blatant enough that seems like a silly read
Like this post here
Are you attacking or not? You Attack First and then you leave It. What Is the purpose? Town!you should be attacking jalandh to see his reaction and maybe After you should leave it. Doing like this you did nothing for the Village, you only tried to look Active in Reading.[(Collapse)](javascript:void(0))
mikey’s tripped over himself three times now trying to defend himself against me
all of his stances suddenly change to fit his responses
and we have people like Lissa reading him as town bc she thinks he believes the stuff he says
if you don’t look at these trends I can’t do anything for youLissa Is Reading him Town because She Is Wolf and Mickey Is town
This is pretty much why I’m seeing tartina/Lissa more as a distancing attempt rather than a V/W dynamic.
Tartina went straight to putting her vote on Lissa without giving much explanation to why and later on swaps her vote onto Duk3. Afterwards she begins poking Lissa while still with her vote on Duk3 by the time EoD comes.
Additionally, your frustration that Tartina wasn’t here to vote Lissa feels more like wolf frustration over not being able to nab towncred from a bus as a villager would still be happy that a wolf was lynch. I’m in the same spot as you as I was SR’ing Lissa hard over her hard TR’ing Mikey but not trying to shift the wagon away from him alongside the lack of strong reads from her partners. I’m not pissed that Marl ended up on the wagon of a player I TR, but I’m happy that we got Lissa out d1.
In short, tartina’s progression makes no sense from a villager’s PoV and your reaction to Lissa’s lynch seems to be way too focused on nabbing the towncred from her than actualy advancing the game-state to a more pro-village side.
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I think taking anything Lissa did 3 hours before EOD is probably a crap shoot. That includes not going on Bunnelby, voting off from Mikey, and the Impeaceful mess.
Lissa and team had to realise at some point Manti was telegraphing the thing. Newcomb’s reads were nonexistent, they knew they were going down at that point if I had to guess, because it was that transparent.
Like I dunno what Lissa’s plan was but given her EOD it was to either hard defend or incriminate Mikey in some manner, which lacks self preservation either way so everything on that end is yeah. Dumb.
I don’t think she thought she was going down when Manti telegraphed that.
The way she was fighting made it look like while she was expecting suspicion on her that she thought she could still live to d2 or later.
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I think taking anything Lissa did 3 hours before EOD is probably a crap shoot. That includes not going on Bunnelby, voting off from Mikey, and the Impeaceful mess.
Lissa and team had to realise at some point Manti was telegraphing the thing. Newcomb’s reads were nonexistent, they knew they were going down at that point if I had to guess, because it was that transparent.
Like I dunno what Lissa’s plan was but given her EOD it was to either hard defend or incriminate Mikey in some manner, which lacks self preservation either way so everything on that end is yeah. Dumb.
I don’t think she thought she was going down when Manti telegraphed that.
The way she was fighting made it look like while she was expecting suspicion on her that she thought she could still live to d2 or later.
her first words out of her mouth were “what the fuck”
“I don’t even know where to start”
she was scrambling
and in general just her reads just doing 180s meant, to me, that she just decided to leave the game
there’s a more in-depth explanation but she like. very much broke character there
Point me to which post that you read Lissa as giving up and going into antispew mode?
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-Rosen
Duk3star
FTFlush
[NSM] MikeyMantichora
Marluxion
Nuxl
Shattiel
tartinaBunnelby
Impeaceful
Paranoia
XnadrojXeevee
JalandhContrainer
think this is about where I’m at.
tiers not ordered internally
This was pretty much the last readlist Lissa gave out before she noticed Manti preparing his CFD onto her.
I’ll probably not lynch Contrainer for now being that Lissa was repeatedly pushing on him yesterday and had him as a top wolf, so I wouldn’t think this is distancing nor antispew.
In the top 4 town, 3 were on her wagon and then there’s Mikey. I’m TR’ing Mikey, but with some reservations ATM.
In the next section there is a flipped V and me on the top followed by Nuxl/Shatti/Tart. ATP I’m Shatti>Nuxl>Tart when it comes to T>W.
Next section there’s Bun/Impeace/Para/androj. Not liking any of them and the fact that Lissa was potentially in antispew mode puts the spew on Bun as meh for me.
Last section there is Eevee/Jal. I’m pretty much locking Eevee’s slot as V right now and Jal feels odd considering that Lissa only had very surface interacitons with Jal while her other ones felt more in-depth.
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I’m guessing you’re addressing me here. Tartina lives in Italy, eod was at 3am for her. Nice try though. Go next.
Also the fact that I had just pressured you makes this posts existence completely logical.
I’ll still give your possibly being town a chance and will ask you personally, go multi-ISO marluxion and lissa and put the posts in the context of the actual state of the thread at that point (before 400 or so). Do you think that’s a good look for your spot?
Why are you even caring if you were on Lissa’s wagon or not? A wolf lynch is a wolf lynch.
Throwing shade!=pressure. I started out the day posting my suspicions of you due to tartina’s voting patterns and progression, so if you’re trying to frame this as an OMGUS, though luck.
Explain to me? You just keep mentioning that my slot is NAGL without actually going in-depth regarding your read.
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yeah lissa’s reads on impeaceful are like a ping-pong ball
this is probably the case for others
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1275
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Meh.
All of Contrainer’s posts on Mikey/Lissa.
Rest of their ISO is just sheeping and fluff, so I didn’t bother much with it.
Alone this is shit as it feels like him distancing from Lissa at first and then trying to find s reason to bus her when her lynch was solidified, but I think this has a chance of being LHF due to Lissa’s push on him by now. Will probably want to see how Maxwell plays today before further making a judgment.
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idk how to read lissa
never seen her actual play
yeah lissa’s reads on impeaceful are like a ping-pong ball
this is probably the case for others
take #1275 and #1408 cuz i still can’t multiquote
1275
##Vote Lissa
Meh.
All of Contrainer’s posts on Mikey/Lissa.
Rest of their ISO is just sheeping and fluff, so I didn’t bother much with it.
Alone this is shit as it feels like him distancing from Lissa at first and then trying to find s reason to bus her when her lynch was solidified, but I think this has a chance of being LHF due to Lissa’s push on him by now. Will probably want to see how Maxwell plays today before further making a judgment.
If you don’t mind, go read Lissa’s Contrainer “push.” I think you’ll find yourself underwhelmed.
It’s not nearly as intense as many of you may remember.
For Lissa to have suspected Contrainer as much as she would like you all to believe, she didn’t spend half as much time their as you would think. It almost looked like coaching.
She spent much more time fighting with players like Flush, and scrutinizing players like Bunnelby.
Lissa’s entire approach to Contrainer, to me, says “I suspect this player but please nobody follow my lead.”
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Lissa’s confidence in Contrainer being a wolf =/= Lissa’s actual push.
Which says to me TMI for the light, objective distance through vote. Versus a more concrete, subjective distance like actually scrapping with a player like Flush.
It still doesn’t explain the why alongside the duration of Lissa’s push on him. IIRC, Lissa isn’t the kind of player to just park her vote on another wolf and call it a day.
My issue with the theory that Contrainer is wolf effectively boils down to the fact that until Lissa had to self-pres that her vote was parked on him the entire match. In the case this was her trying to set herself deep then she’d had pushed Contrainer harder and there would be more W/W interactions between them.
If she was trying to get herself or the latter cleared if one of them flipped outside of a bus, then I can see this happening, but I can’t really see why parking her vote this long would be an optimal move to take as a wolf. If the Contrainer wagon actually took steam, then she would be forced to bus him in this case and would not get much of the credit from his flip due to the lack of interactions on his part.
It’s pretty much why I don’t think this interaction is W/W as I’d imagine Lissa wouldn’t go halfway between distancing and bussing were this the case.
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I’m guessing you’re addressing me here. Tartina lives in Italy, eod was at 3am for her. Nice try though. Go next.
Also the fact that I had just pressured you makes this posts existence completely logical.
I’ll still give your possibly being town a chance and will ask you personally, go multi-ISO marluxion and lissa and put the posts in the context of the actual state of the thread at that point (before 400 or so). Do you think that’s a good look for your spot?
Why are you even caring if you were on Lissa’s wagon or not? A wolf lynch is a wolf lynch.
Throwing shade!=pressure. I started out the day posting my suspicions of you due to tartina’s voting patterns and progression, so if you’re trying to frame this as an OMGUS, though luck.
Explain to me? You just keep mentioning that my slot is NAGL without actually going in-depth regarding your read.
because you used it as argument to scumpaint us? ROFL
If you mean 1584 you sheeped SmartBomb and actually pointed out the fact tartina wasn’t on the wagon. You can do better than this, come on. How do you want it, is the vote not being on lissa relevant or not? I actually thought I had loosely stated our suspicions of marluxion in the thread before that, but apparently not - i was all swallowed up (isthisevenanexpressionyoucanuseinenglsih) in answering SmartBomb.
I’ve mentioned it on several places, and tbh I can’t keep up with the pace of the thread atm. If you need me to I will do it later on, otherwise what already exists will have to do.
Actually here’s a quickie based on teammates notes and discussions -
98 Sheeping Lissas push on eevee (SMARTBOMB THAT IS) and taking over that discussion from her
123-131 ??? Says thread seems pretty towny outside of bunnelby, but mentions bunn, eevee, duke as suspects. So, lissa is the towny one, noted.
172 Liking bunnelbys read on mikey (aka tunnel that transcends games and not solvey…) Doesnt like eevee at all.Yeah i’ll just do the rest like this - mentionss that you (alice + iaafr) wanted a bunnelby vote but he doesn’t go there. He mentions the coaching thing but “but eh” is his motivation to not go there (!)
More buddying of lissa re contrainer.
Mikey pressure in 630 just after he votes duk3 (!) and then proceeds to vote mikey for doing the same thing as he does. (defending duk3?) Apparently having more than one scumread is wolfy.Last post is 752 which is interesting as well…
Im not doing more of these but the buddying with Lissa, the inconsistency in what he pushes in relation to what he does is ??
Im going to have to leave thread soon, for every post i write i fall 50 posts behind, pls calm down
You started out the day bragging about reading Lissa correctly and lamented the fact that tartina was not on Lissa’s wagon despite the she was lynched either way. What exactly did you want to accomplish by posting this?
No, I suspected you overnight. With Lissa flipping W I re-read the thread and took a look at which players would be spewed clear and which ones would likely be wolfmates with her. Tartina stood out to me as her progression on Lissa was completely backwards with her voting Lissa and then questioning her after she shifted her vote to Duk3. I suspected this as it absolutely feels that tart knew from the get-go via TMI that Lissa was a wolf and what she was doing was more of a maneuver to distance herself from Lissa as I pointed out that she…
A) Began by shadethrowing Lissa and -Rozen, and voting the former.
B) Voted Duk3 without really interacting with Lissa.
C) Begin questioning Lissa on the tepidity of her reads.
D) Spend the EoD on Duk3 after her interactions with Lissa.In short, her actions do not match her thought process.
- Exact posts. Now.
4)In this case it was Marl incorrectly reading Lissa as a villager. He wasn’t listening to anyone else in the team’s reads in this case as both iaafr and I kept screeching to him that Mikey is likely V and that his vote would be better on Duke/Bunnelby/Contrainer and as the game progressed Lissa.
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Also I may be misremembering, but wasn’t Iaafr pressuring Duk3, and not Mikey?
D1 post-rerand? That is correct.
iaafr and I were TR’ing Mikey while at the same time SR’ing Duke and Bun.
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- you have the thought process written out right there, how much more effort do you require from me here? iä’ll refer to the above
Could you outline it better for me as I really would like to know how your team came to the conclusion that Lissa was wolfing?
My village playstyle is to usually probe into my target and try to get a picture of how their train of thought flows to see if they are arriving to their conclusion by TMI or by deduction. So seeing your team vote Lissa, then vote Duke and then begin probing into Lissa without voting for her, and then having her flip W set off several red flags to me as that feels the exact opposite of how I’d approach a suspect.
I’ll re-read how tartina and duk3 played out rn.
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I don t understand the votes on Mickey. He Is playing as a Town and for the Moment I trust him and I feel his messages genuine. He has changed his mind on his vote just like a townie does. A Wolf tries to be coherent with a vision.
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Hmm. @tartina can I get you to expand your feelings on Lissa and Duke?
On Lissa i Only have bad feelings… I feel like she would be so much better and so much leading as a townie.
She looks like defensive and carefull and I expect more from her as townie.Duk3 i explained myself, he ignored my question once, twice etc… until i changed the words of my question (I shouldn’t have done it). And i disliked his answer.
I still dislike tartina’s overall progression tbh.
After voting Duke she was questioning Lissa while at the same time only touching Duke after Para mentioned her.
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- you have the thought process written out right there, how much more effort do you require from me here? iä’ll refer to the above
Could you outline it better for me as I really would like to know how your team came to the conclusion that Lissa was wolfing?
My village playstyle is to usually probe into my target and try to get a picture of how their train of thought flows to see if they are arriving to their conclusion by TMI or by deduction. So seeing your team vote Lissa, then vote Duke and then begin probing into Lissa without voting for her, and then having her flip W set off several red flags to me as that feels the exact opposite of how I’d approach a suspect.
I’ll re-read how tartina and duk3 played out rn.
The original question was on your slot, not the lissa being wolf matter? And yeah I remember you and your playstyle well from anni
WE had 2 main suspects up for voting, lissa was the main one but we thought it’d be a tought lynch. Tart liked duk3 and voted for him i guess, then wasn’t there at eod. Lissa ignoring the tartina accusations and then when she finally does (after mikey pressures her to answer) she calls it ridiculous. not in the mood for summarizing how the discussions were in team chat other than what i already have cuz they include pizzaguy and mendel and let me tell you those guys can produce considerable amounts of theories and text
Can you post some of Pizza and Mendel’s theories here?
I think I can understand your PoV regarding the latter portion of the progression.
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Meh, tartina/roro are trending up for me so far and Contrainer/Maxwell have been trending downwards.
Does your team have any unique reads or takes on the gamestate that you all have discussed so far?
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Meh, tartina/roro are trending up for me so far and Contrainer/Maxwell have been trending downwards.
Does your team have any unique reads or takes on the gamestate that you all have discussed so far?
Not quite yet. Ladd says he’s extremely busy and hasn’t read anything in the last 20 pages. He has stuff from day 1 in our team chat but that’s probably outdated by now.
He just told me that Dhattiel/Flush/SB are villagers, that he doesn’t feel like lynching anyone on Duke’s wagon , and that he had Jlandh as wolf d1 but hasn’t read his more recent postings.
Which wagon? The only players who voted Duke d1 were Marl, tartina, and Mikey.
I can agree with Jal considering that he’s in my would lynch list and SB has a very good point regarding his interactions with Lissa, but eh… why Jal as wolf for him?
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Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 2 Maxwell fairyjigglypuff (2), roro__b (47) 2 GreenCatKid Chemist1422 (24), Pawn Lelouch (11) 2 Chingles2404 theknightsofneeee (48), Beck (62) 1 Chemist1422 SmartBomb (47) 1 Beck GreenCatKid (11) 1 112 LordQuas (60) 6 Not voting Alice Liddell (20), Duskfall (14), Chingles2404 (28), 112 (2), Maxwell (15), Animal Midwife (0) End day at majority is enabled. With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach majority.
Day 2 ends at 9:00 PM EDT on Friday, July 26th, 2019 . There are expired Fri Jul 26 2019 21:01:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) remaining.
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Maxwell’s… eh, see my response to Beck’s theory on Contrainer. Would not lynch today.
GCK I think was spewed potentially V by Lissa trying to get Mikey and herself to self-pres onto him.
Chingles can die, wouldn’t prioritize him as Paranoia was just unremarkable d1. I still think 112 is more likely to flip wolf over him.
Chemist would be a good lynch as I agree with SB’s read on him and their team hasn’t really done any solving so far, which is unlike Jal and Chem.
Beck’s just eww.
Going with rn 112 as both Impeaceful and them have been absolutely terrible content. Still think it was extremely odd that Impeaceful had Mikey as one of his top SRs and still voted Manti and Eevee. Overall looks like a wolf egging a villager’s wagon from the sidelines considering how EoD1 turned out.
Still not fully sold on tartina/roro V, but they’ve been improving.
##Vote 112
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my current wolf team is
chem
one of 112/chingles
greencatkidat least one of these is always wrong or game is just too easy
Agreeing with Chem and 112 over Chingles.
Disagreeing wth GCK, tbh. I think he’s just LHF town from Lissa trying to self-pres onto them.
Would probably put the last one as roro, jigglypuff, or in fringe cases Duskfall or Maxwell.
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Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 2 Maxwell fairyjigglypuff (2), roro__b (47) 2 GreenCatKid Chemist1422 (24), Pawn Lelouch (11) 2 Chingles2404 theknightsofneeee (48), Beck (62) 1 Chemist1422 SmartBomb (47) 1 Beck GreenCatKid (11) 1 112 LordQuas (60) 6 Not voting Alice Liddell (20), Duskfall (14), Chingles2404 (28), 112 (2), Maxwell (15), Animal Midwife (0) End day at majority is enabled. With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach majority.
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Maxwell’s… eh, see my response to Beck’s theory on Contrainer. Would not lynch today.
GCK I think was spewed potentially V by Lissa trying to get Mikey and herself to self-pres onto him.
Chingles can die, wouldn’t prioritize him as Paranoia was just unremarkable d1. I still think 112 is more likely to flip wolf over him.
Chemist would be a good lynch as I agree with SB’s read on him and their team hasn’t really done any solving so far, which is unlike Jal and Chem.
Beck’s just eww.
Going with rn 112 as both Impeaceful and them have been absolutely terrible content. Still think it was extremely odd that Impeaceful had Mikey as one of his top SRs and still voted Manti and Eevee. Overall looks like a wolf egging a villager’s wagon from the sidelines considering how EoD1 turned out.
Still not fully sold on tartina/roro V, but they’ve been improving.
##Vote 112
terrible content on my part? I’ve been tired or napping for the entire time i’ve been in the game. the only thing i posted that was game related wasn’t entirely dumb, if it was brief.
i can appreciate someone reading me scum, but i feel like such an easy target to plant the blame.
Like, if feels that you/Impeaceful are wolves that are trying to do the minimum effort to go UTR. See my read on Impeaceful’s vote on Manti and Eevee and your reads here have been just surface level such as on Maxwell’s entrance or commenting my “convulted reads” never mind that we’re technically a 3-headed hydra.
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112 has not impressed me
i just entered the game , lol. i still have reading to do. bought a dab pen yesterday. and i’m probably not wrong on my AL read. honest story, boss.
Not really an excuse considering that your slot had a relatively wolfy d1.
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there’s nothing in marl’s iso that couldn’t have been posted by a wolf. check it.
…what?
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112 has not impressed me
i just entered the game , lol. i still have reading to do. bought a dab pen yesterday. and i’m probably not wrong on my AL read. honest story, boss.
Not really an excuse considering that your slot had a relatively wolfy d1.
I know it did. I was attacking the part concerning me, which was the entire quote, apparently.
D1 != 112. Why are you strawmanning? 2) Are you concerned that I’ve outed your slot?
What did marl do that’s so especially towny?
Impeaceful’s slot = Your slot. Subbing out doesn’t give his shit-tastic d1 a clean slate.
LOL.
This isn’t the issue. Why do you think my slot has wolf equity?
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112 has not impressed me
i just entered the game, lol. i still have reading to do. bought a dab pen yesterday. and i’m probably not wrong on my AL read. honest story, boss.
Present your case?
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Not really an excuse considering that your slot had a relatively wolfy d1.
I know it did. I was attacking the part concerning me, which was the entire quote, apparently.
D1 != 112. Why are you strawmanning? 2) Are you concerned that I’ve outed your slot?
What did marl do that’s so especially towny?
Impeaceful’s slot = Your slot. Subbing out doesn’t give his shit-tastic d1 a clean slate.
LOL.
This isn’t the issue. Why do you think my slot has wolf equity?
I just ran through marl’s iso and saw a lack of genuine scumhunting. it’s not even anything he necessarily did; it’s that he did exactly nothing that I wouldn’t think a wolf could fabricate and post.
his mikey read was bad imo. seem easy, and i think the old mike-meister’s town.
…meanwhile your team has done nothing but OMGUS all game.
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also, I know I’m town, so while there’s maybe an omgus element here, i think there could be one on your angle considering I sort of started poking you.
and while there’s an OMGUS element in me not liking your vote for me, it was lazy and looks worse when someone knows i’m town.
AL’s team in SHAMBLES and u guys just don’t see it yet.
LOL
I’ve been vocal with my suspicion on Impeacful and now you since SoD.
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I guess I’m gonna replace Marl’s name with literally everyone on Day 1 for memes at some point this game eh.
You gotta go more in depth than this.
oh my god, don’t make me
there’s more than like 24 hours, isn’t there? i play by reading things and commenting my thoughts/self-solving as i go along.
i thought what i said was fine tbh
I just ran through 112’s iso and saw a lack of genuine scumhunting. it’s not even anything he necessarily did; it’s that he did exactly nothing that I wouldn’t think a wolf could fabricate and post.
his Alice read was bad imo. seem easy, and i think the old Alice-meister’s town.
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Why do you have such a high confidence in this sort of very, very generic read? That doesn’t even explain why someone’s a wolf?
AL is who pinged me when I read through the thread the first time today. ‘First guess’ is not synonymous with ‘high confidence’ - but I don’t see anything wrong with leading the topic with that. Is the read generic or did I just not expand? Should I say something and have an essay reading to go on the spot every time?
My tone has been awful, lol. not sure why nobody’s attacking me on that, because it’s the only wolfy thing about me-
it’s not necessarily scum behaviour to walk into the thread and share new thoughts upon reading for the first time with the intent to post and scumhunt.
…explain the ping?
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give me some time to establish an iso before pulling the uno reversal, btw. marl had all D1 and made nothing substantial happen from his posts. he was a non-entity.
So basically you’ve already established the conclusion that I’m a wolf and now you’re trying to gather evidence to back your conclusion?
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112 is flailing, like whether or not she’s town rn she’s flailing smoething fierce lmfao
Frankly by now my mind is made on them being a wolf. Their posts claiming that they’ll ISO me later is a de-facto wolf-claim.
Villagers never ISO people after shading and voting them.
Since villagers lack the information then they ISO for information and then they make a judgment on a player’s alignment. This is game-solving.
Wolves don’t need to do this as they already have all the info regarding every player’s alignments. They ISO in order to case a player and to push their mislynch. This is pushing an agenda.
112 outright claiming that they’ll ISO me after accusing me of being a wolf without doing much reading at all is the second option.
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Man if Beck and roro are both villas what exactly is the state of this game
what a messy wolfteam
I pay my respects to Mantichora and friends
Lissa/112/Chemist/jigglypuff OR Dusk OR Maxwell.
Not really seeing GCK W/W with Lissa and the rest are kind of cleared by now.
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##Vote Alice Liddell
@Alice Liddell o7 o7 gg…can you not fake check people?
This shit doesn’t really accomplish anything except spew players as non-PR from their reactions and derail the thread by making people read my spew based on the false information that I’ll flip red.
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STOP WITH THE FUCKING VOTES AS THIS CHECK IS FAKE.
Rescind this shit already before I’m quickhammered. Now.
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…can you not fake check people?
This shit doesn’t really accomplish anything except spew players as non-PR from their reactions and derail the thread by making people read my spew based on the false information that I’ll flip red.
Either you’re wolf or he is, so this lynch is pretty standard, to me.
Fake reds are a common FPS here.
Both Quas and I are villagers and he’s not the damn tracker.
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…can you not fake check people?
This $#@! doesn’t really accomplish anything except spew players as non-PR from their reactions and derail the thread by making people read my spew based on the false information that I’ll flip red.
decent reaction
fully retract
dobby and sb had extremely towny reactions
gck/chingles/chem had mildly wolfy ones
alice had a towny one I would say
112 had a towny one as well
maxwell is wolfy as hell lmao
sorry knights ;(
Disagree on Alice’s reaction actually
Right before you rescinded it I said I thought Alice was wolf for their comment about knowing you were town
Quas has been thread spewed as V, he never flips W here.
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I honestly can’t decide if max is wolfy or not for wanting that quickhammer. It’s def pro wolf to do but could just be lolwillage
I think Max rapidly flipping their vote is a worse look
Though I don’t know what them missing the red peek means because they were obviously pretty invested in team chat no matter their alignment
I absolutely hated it how Quas had to explicitly announce his fake red on me for Maxwell to notice it. It’s pretty much why I’m not liking every player with a delayed reaction like this such as GCK and him as when Quas mentioned a check and then he meant me then it didn’t immediately connect to them that the check was me being that they knew that I would not return a red check from a tracker check.
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I’m just a villager here like always
I don’t disagree
I’m just saying I don’t think their reaction was towny
so you think it’s wolfy that they knew I’m always a villager here
yes because of how certain they were
It was mostly based on urgency and trying to get a message across for the village not to lynch Quas were I lynched over this, though. If I got quickhammered over this then this could easily turn on Quas for his FPS.
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I’m wondering if dusk is a wolf just because nobody has been talking about him
I don’t think neither he nor Nuxl posted any memorable content so far.
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STOP WITH THE FUCKING VOTES AS THIS CHECK IS FAKE.
Rescind this shit already before I’m quickhammered. Now.
already did
but muh read
im going to go cry
Quick question. Assume I get dayvigged and flip V or if I reveal as an IC. What would be your read on 112?
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I honestly can’t decide if max is wolfy or not for wanting that quickhammer. It’s def pro wolf to do but could just be lolwillage
I think Max rapidly flipping their vote is a worse look
Though I don’t know what them missing the red peek means because they were obviously pretty invested in team chat no matter their alignment
I absolutely hated it how Quas had to explicitly announce his fake red on me for Maxwell to notice it. It’s pretty much why I’m not liking every player with a delayed reaction like this such as GCK and him as when Quas mentioned a check and then he meant me then it didn’t immediately connect to them that the check was me being that they knew that I would not return a red check from a tracker check.
hey look i found a mirror!!!
Here’s the thing. Your entire attitude towards me is stricking me as a villager tunneling another one due to your conviction in me being a wolf rather than a wolf pushing for a mislynch.
I was wolfreading you before for hard-defending 112 like that, but re-reading your posts it’s pretty much obvious that from the way that you’re defending 112 you’re using fallacious pre-flip associatives based on the world that I’m a W and so you’re effectively reading every one of my SRs as V by default. This is appearant as I don’t think a wolf would ever defend their scumbuddies this hard as you’ve been defending them, so I understand why Quas and other players are TR’ing you despite your behavior in the thread.
So here’s an exercise. Imagine you will somehow know that my alignment is V. How would your reads change? And why?
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already did
but muh read
im going to go cry
Quick question. Assume I get dayvigged and flip V or if I reveal as an IC. What would be your read on 112?
112 feels pure but tbh my focus hasnt been on analysing his posts so idk, is there a reason to reread that post in relation to you?
Simple. Your reads look like they’re way too dependant on a world where I flip W and it’s pretty much why they and your tinfoils have been so off to me.
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I almost wonder if gck is v just like, because they’re so entirely off what the threadstate is doing
He’s kind of reminding me of a Cop 13’er I had where he immediately thought 2 players hypoclaiming should be thunderdomed in a sort of weird way of CC-ing each other. Looks to me more of obliviousness rather than malice here.
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lmao @ red peek claimed but doesnt have plur
let me reach my post count
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##Unvote Alice Liddellthink this is super pure especially the second post
doesn’t feel like he has any tmi wrt alice
hmm I think that might be a bit of a stretch
Eh, I don’t like it for the same reason for GCK and Maxwell’s reaction.
Anyone without the TMI that I wouldn’t be tracked to a nightkill would immediately connect your peek announcement to your sudden vote on me. FJP, GCK, and Maxwell suddenly voting me after you made your fake peek obvious makes me more skeptical towards their slots, and I’m only having second thoughts on Maxwell due to ladd and Frog’s reaction.
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Smartbomb is at 90% imo, not lock town never wolf, and if she is i want you to explain why with any other sentence than “you are tunneling”. The case on eevee/smartbomb i leave to mendel cuz im spent.
I liked Eevee’s D1 and him being the second vote on Lissa’s CFD just seals the deal.
Why exactly SB in particular that you disagree with locking as town?
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that her reaction looked more like a ping from wolfchat,
What? Quas himself pinged me when he outed his fake check on me.
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Frog says, and ladd agrees, that chingles/paranoia are an easy wolf.
What are their reads on 112?
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and has been pushing pretty much only lhf.
I disagree on this being a negative for this match. Much of the PoE is composed of players that would be considered LHF due to the fact that much of the stronger players as in Quas, SB, Nee, and whatnot have already been cleared and the only non-LHF wolfy player in this match are Chemist and Lissa, who was lynched D1.
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Sure, so can we talk about today?
As in regarding the current slots rather than the previous ones?
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Sure, so can we talk about today?
As in regarding the current slots rather than the previous ones?
Roro’s point is that I’m not 100% villagery, which is whatever. Lynch wolves.
Where’s your head at rn?
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##Vote fairyjigglypuff
can we swing it, fellow tp?
@Alice Liddell look at this and tell me its wolf
This is not really villager-AI, though. Hell, voting Maxwell was more villagery than this, tbh. My issue with this vote is that they’re effectively voting a 6-poster that isn’t really playing the game, and overall 112 has been playing way too safe this match. Like, so far 112 has voted me, Chemist, Maxwell, and FJP today.
Antagonizing me really doesn’t do anything since I was right out of the gate scumreading and analyzing Impeaceful’s slot, so it was very likely that I was going to vote them later in the day.
Chemist is basically the consensus scumread rn and voting him really isn’t a controversial action to take, plus since they have high wolf equity by themselves then W!112 wouldn’t have much issues voting their own partner in the case both of them are W/W.
Maxwell’s effectively the most controversial vote of the four here and even then it was a naked vote and then was quickly unvoted.
FJP… yeah, they really aren’t playing this game or engaging with people here, so voting for FJP isn’t really that amazing by itself.
Basically, 112’s votes have been way too cautious this match without trying to solve much, and when we have several solid clears already it pretty much points to high wolf equity by itself.
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Yeah so this was where I was getting at.
I generally think that if Chemist is a wolf the entire wolfteam arrived dead on arrival and just basically fucked off somewhere tbh. He just couldn’t deal with the amount of loud villageryness in the thread to start and he kind of assumed the position.
I like. have a hard time believe that all of these people can solve so avidly and rapidly and also be scum really.
Top this all off with the fact that Lissa’s entire read on Nuxl was basically kind of “I have a bad read on nuxl that probably means they’re town” and I feel like this is the read that they didn’t really give any attention to once they just carried it out to the thread. You say Lissa should have a stronger grasp of their reads but honestly I’ve been in Lissa’s position before, you really can’t.
There’s probably some amount of Smogon nerd base behind their team but it’s exceptionally muted; in particular why didn’t they hit up Amy? You could say it’s the other way around but in case you didn’t realise Amy probably just completely flaked out upon seeing wolfrand in a team game so I’m not gonna grasp there.
Like maybe I’ll reverse out for a different third but I’m not particularly happy with what’s going on right now.
I had 2 different theories with the likely flip of W!Chemist in mind, and I’d imagine this is either going to be a village stomp as in we’ll win by d4ish, or we’re going to have a nightmare at endgame from it due to his attitude in this entire day.
I’ve played with Chemist and he’s general far more WIM-y than this. Him being lethargic like this and not really bothering to play means that in the case he’s a wolf then there are may be two reasons behind it.
A) The wolf team is Lissa/Chemist + 2 wolves close in the PoE. Chemist knows that it’s basically impossible for his team to pull out a win here and he has effectively given up as he isn’t really trying to shift the lynch to another player as he knows that he will be die soon along with the rest of the pack in either way.
B) The wolf team is Lissa/Chemist + one or two wolves that are in the towncore. Chemist has effectively given up and is depending on a deepwolf to carry his team.
I’m feeling kind of uneasy when it comes to today’s wagons with Chemist’s wagon being so stale like this as it implies the wolves have either given up or they are cruising by.
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Maybe you are town and genuinely think all the lhf just happened to roll scum, it is not impossible. But I don’t buy that at all. Your solving doesn’t look genuine to me and writing a long post shading me about how qualified I am to read you is not towny.
Sigh, can you all contextualize the game-state in mind before repeating the bolded?
Knights, Quas, Flush, SB, and most of the other strong players have been already cleared in this match from EoD1. This in turn leaves a shit ton of LHF alongside Chemist on the PoE.
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Yeah so this was where I was getting at.
I generally think that if Chemist is a wolf the entire wolfteam arrived dead on arrival and just basically $#@!ed off somewhere tbh. He just couldn’t deal with the amount of loud villageryness in the thread to start and he kind of assumed the position.
I like. have a hard time believe that all of these people can solve so avidly and rapidly and also be scum really.
Top this all off with the fact that Lissa’s entire read on Nuxl was basically kind of “I have a bad read on nuxl that probably means they’re town” and I feel like this is the read that they didn’t really give any attention to once they just carried it out to the thread. You say Lissa should have a stronger grasp of their reads but honestly I’ve been in Lissa’s position before, you really can’t.
There’s probably some amount of Smogon nerd base behind their team but it’s exceptionally muted; in particular why didn’t they hit up Amy? You could say it’s the other way around but in case you didn’t realise Amy probably just completely flaked out upon seeing wolfrand in a team game so I’m not gonna grasp there.
Like maybe I’ll reverse out for a different third but I’m not particularly happy with what’s going on right now.
I had 2 different theories with the likely flip of W!Chemist in mind, and I’d imagine this is either going to be a village stomp as in we’ll win by d4ish, or we’re going to have a nightmare at endgame from it due to his attitude in this entire day.
I’ve played with Chemist and he’s general far more WIM-y than this. Him being lethargic like this and not really bothering to play means that in the case he’s a wolf then there are may be two reasons behind it.
A) The wolf team is Lissa/Chemist + 2 wolves close in the PoE. Chemist knows that it’s basically impossible for his team to pull out a win here and he has effectively given up as he isn’t really trying to shift the lynch to another player as he knows that he will be die soon along with the rest of the pack in either way.
B) The wolf team is Lissa/Chemist + one or two wolves that are in the towncore. Chemist has effectively given up and is depending on a deepwolf to carry his team.
I’m feeling kind of uneasy when it comes to today’s wagons with Chemist’s wagon being so stale like this as it implies the wolves have either given up or they are cruising by.
I’m pretty sure I gave a completely different reason for why I’m lower-WIM but sure
I’ve played a lot with you and I’ve never seen you this lethargic. We had a wolf lynch d1, so lack of information or being demotivated by the gamestate isn’t exactly something to kill your WIM.
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##Vote fairyjigglypuff
can we swing it, fellow tp?
@Alice Liddell look at this and tell me its wolf
This is not really villager-AI, though. Hell, voting Maxwell was more villagery than this, tbh. My issue with this vote is that they’re effectively voting a 6-poster that isn’t really playing the game, and overall 112 has been playing way too safe this match. Like, so far 112 has voted me, Chemist, Maxwell, and FJP today.
Antagonizing me really doesn’t do anything since I was right out of the gate scumreading and analyzing Impeaceful’s slot, so it was very likely that I was going to vote them later in the day.
Chemist is basically the consensus scumread rn and voting him really isn’t a controversial action to take, plus since they have high wolf equity by themselves then W!112 wouldn’t have much issues voting their own partner in the case both of them are W/W.
Maxwell’s effectively the most controversial vote of the four here and even then it was a naked vote and then was quickly unvoted.
FJP… yeah, they really aren’t playing this game or engaging with people here, so voting for FJP isn’t really that amazing by itself.
Basically, 112’s votes have been way too cautious this match without trying to solve much, and when we have several solid clears already it pretty much points to high wolf equity by itself.
have I never played like this as town?
A link to a town game would help. So far I’ve only played with you in Anni and M1GP. The former you were V but at the same time it was a 144p’er so I couldn’t really analyze you as closely as I wanted. M1GP you were wolf.
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This is not really villager-AI, though. Hell, voting Maxwell was more villagery than this, tbh. My issue with this vote is that they’re effectively voting a 6-poster that isn’t really playing the game, and overall 112 has been playing way too safe this match. Like, so far 112 has voted me, Chemist, Maxwell, and FJP today.
Antagonizing me really doesn’t do anything since I was right out of the gate scumreading and analyzing Impeaceful’s slot, so it was very likely that I was going to vote them later in the day.
Chemist is basically the consensus scumread rn and voting him really isn’t a controversial action to take, plus since they have high wolf equity by themselves then W!112 wouldn’t have much issues voting their own partner in the case both of them are W/W.
Maxwell’s effectively the most controversial vote of the four here and even then it was a naked vote and then was quickly unvoted.
FJP… yeah, they really aren’t playing this game or engaging with people here, so voting for FJP isn’t really that amazing by itself.
Basically, 112’s votes have been way too cautious this match without trying to solve much, and when we have several solid clears already it pretty much points to high wolf equity by itself.
have I never played like this as town?
A link to a town game would help. So far I’ve only played with you in Anni and M1GP. The former you were V but at the same time it was a 144p’er so I couldn’t really analyze you as closely as I wanted. M1GP you were wolf.
http://forum.canucks.com/topic/39095…creek-game-on/
I noticed that there was a huge tonal difference between when you wolfed in SB’s game and how you were villaging in your homesite.
As a wolf in SB’s game you were far safer and reserved while there you were more outgoing and spontaneous. Tonal-wise you’re matching more your village game than your wolf one.
@roro_b
Quick question, were you reading 112 V mainly from their tone?
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Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 5 Chemist1422 Animal Midwife (8), Beck (134), LordQuas (288), Duskfall (45), 112 (87) 3 112 Alice Liddell (56), SmartBomb (212), Chingles2404 (125) 2 Duskfall Chemist1422 (117), Pawn Lelouch (50) 1 Chingles2404 Maxwell (64) 1 fairyjigglypuff theknightsofneeee (160) 1 Maxwell GreenCatKid (66) 1 Alice Liddell roro__b (180) 1 Not voting fairyjigglypuff (6) End day at majority is enabled. With 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to reach majority.
Day 2 ends at 9:00 PM EDT on Friday, July 26th, 2019 . There are expired Fri Jul 26 2019 21:01:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) remaining.
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Meh, so far my opinion here hasn’t really changed much regarding my reads.
I still consider SB/Knights/AM/Lelouch + LordQuas and Beck to be the towncore over EoD1 and Quas being thread spewed.
Roro has been trending upward quickly and he’s probably the strongest townlean I have outside the town core.
Chemist and 112 are still my strongest SR’s and 112’s progression on Chemist solidifies my Chemist/112 wolfteam.
FJP and Duskfall haven’t done anything noticable this match so far.
Chingles would probably be a strong V with 112 W.
Would put Maxwell as more villagery than GCK when it comes to my active null slots.
ATP I’m pretty much set on a Chemist/112 wolfteam with either FJP, Dusk, or potentially GCK as in the final Slot. If 112 is V then this raises both Dusk’s and Chingles’ wolf equity as I don’t think W/W/W would be a realistic formation d2. So eh, I’m basically seeing either Chemist/112/FJP or GCK or Chemist/Chingles/Dusk today.
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I’m shooting fairyjigglypuff tonight, I think.
I recommend you should, too.
Dont we give nr 3 an opportunity to post more than 6 posts? I think alice is the way to go unless we can cfd her in which case chemist is a better shot. That’s just wat I would do just sayin
The slot is going to be ridiculously difficult to solve because it’s got not serious interactions D1 & D2 and almost nobody has an opinion on it. It’s just frustrating that across two days we’ve gotten an accumulative 12 posts.
When I play Vigilante I don’t shoot wolves, I tighten the POE. Jordan/jigglypuff is a ML waiting to happen if they’re a villager and they e done nothing to give anyone a reason to think otherwise.
I was thinking of tightning the PoE by shooting Dusk/112 if Chemist gets lynched as the third player may be more active than jordan or FJP, tbh.
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Tbh reading this game as it progresses, I am kinda agreeing with a lot of what is being said, I think for the most part the consensus poe is pretty good. Kinda sad I am in it, but I haven’t done enough yet to get out unfortunately I understand. I feel like there just isn’t a lot to add to this game rn, town feels to be in a very solid spot
Which consensus PoE?
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Tbh reading this game as it progresses, I am kinda agreeing with a lot of what is being said, I think for the most part the consensus poe is pretty good. Kinda sad I am in it, but I haven’t done enough yet to get out unfortunately I understand. I feel like there just isn’t a lot to add to this game rn, town feels to be in a very solid spot
Which consensus PoE?
Essentially all the people being considered as a wolf atm, I think at least 2 scum are probably being voted rn, town feels like it has full control of the thread, I don’t see any huge flaws in most of the people being townread’s logic, which is a very good sign. I doubt there’s really any deep wolves at this point in time, tinfoiling is bad and this feels like it can be an easy win for us.
More specifics on this?
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prolly not shooting faujitapower tonight just cuz yolo wants to play with them tmrw
As I said above, I’d probably shoot them n4 if the game isn’t over and their third player posts little to no content at all. Being a team game there’s still the chance that their third player is actually readable rather than a lurker.
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Which consensus PoE?
Essentially all the people being considered as a wolf atm, I think at least 2 scum are probably being voted rn, town feels like it has full control of the thread, I don’t see any huge flaws in most of the people being townread’s logic, which is a very good sign. I doubt there’s really any deep wolves at this point in time, tinfoiling is bad and this feels like it can be an easy win for us.
More specifics on this?
More specific on what specifically, who do you want me to give a read on?
GCK/Maxwell/112/Chingles.
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prolly not shooting faujitapower tonight just cuz yolo wants to play with them tmrw
As I said above, I’d probably shoot them n4 if the game isn’t over and their third player posts little to no content at all. Being a team game there’s still the chance that their third player is actually readable rather than a lurker.
it’s not a bad shot
It still wouldn’t be the optimal in this case.
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More specifics on this?
More specific on what specifically, who do you want me to give a read on?
who do you think are the scum
Chemist is first scum and I’m also pretty sure he’s been in antispew most of today, so I think it’s difficult to look for who has partner equity with him today, imo because he’s been outted like all day? I dunno if I was his partner I’d be bussing him, but everyone on his wagon seems pretty towny to me, it is a very pure wagon in general. I feel like 112 is a potential partner with him though due to chemist reluctance to vote 112, scum team would probably prefer have chemist die who is essentially outted than anyone else.
I was pretty confident beck/chemist were TvS earlier in the day but since then I think beck has gotten townier, so I believe the scum is just chemist here always.
Third potential partner with Chemist/112?
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More specifics on this?
More specific on what specifically, who do you want me to give a read on?
GCK/Maxwell/112/Chingles.
112 possibly scum, the rest are underwhelming posters for sure imo . I’m ngl I have a seriously bad track record for reading lhfy players , and I consider most of them underwhelming posters. They have definitely failed to showcase their towniness compared to other players in the game like beck/smartbomb etc which places them in the Poe, feel like this group should probably be where the vig is aiming, throw in fjp too to that though (and I guess me depending on your view of my slot)
Can you actually go more in-depth here?
Bolded part is way too overgeneralized while the italicized ones are hedgey AF.
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who do you think are the scum
Chemist is first scum and I’m also pretty sure he’s been in antispew most of today, so I think it’s difficult to look for who has partner equity with him today, imo because he’s been outted like all day? I dunno if I was his partner I’d be bussing him, but everyone on his wagon seems pretty towny to me, it is a very pure wagon in general. I feel like 112 is a potential partner with him though due to chemist reluctance to vote 112, scum team would probably prefer have chemist die who is essentially outted than anyone else.
I was pretty confident beck/chemist were TvS earlier in the day but since then I think beck has gotten townier, so I believe the scum is just chemist here always.
Third potential partner with Chemist/112?
Yes let’s say I’m scum with my top two scumreads
That’s something that someone who has been reading my posts would say
I’m less certain on a you/112/Dusk team as I don’t think it would be likely for wagonomics for us to have W/W/W wagons and just stop in the middle of the day like this.
112/Dusk is realistic and the way you and 112 progressed does show hints of W/W, same thing with you/Dusk considering that despite putting him as lockscum earlier on you didn’t really vote him until way later as Knights remarked.
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##Vote Creature
assuming the role leak is real
Where the hell have you been
bro i know im a lowposter but you kinda need to step it up my guy
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Mafia Universe Anniversary 2019 Day 2 Votecount
Votes Target Voters (Posts in Phase) 11 GreenCatKid Chemist1422 (180), DaveDob (163), insomnia (156), annulus (119), Marluxion (103), Litten (130), Frog (188), FTFlush (30), Duskfall (24), Jaleb (139), Adrian (5) 9 Xxerox Shad (95), AbuHumaid (23), Crackleslap (25), Transcend (9), Wyatt (1), Jackofhearts2005 (27), Wisp (7), Monstrman (134), therealzeus (85) 5 Quick_Ben Tea (40), theknightsofneeee (53), ladd (156), Boquise (55), iaafr (21) 2 Apoc Tsunami (12), Revival (15) 2 therealzeus Animal Midwife (8), Phighter (179) 2 Duk3star benneh (102), IAmRobik (37) 2 CatgirlMaple Distorted (70), gbsfranca (51) 1 BATMAN The Sun Fan (20) 1 Impeaceful Shattiel (28) 1 MarkoRaj Soneji (4) 1 Jackofhearts2005 Percy (6) 1 Icibalus Zone Q11 (23) 1 Phighter PLZLEAVEDUCK (141) 1 Animal Midwife Egix96 (55) 1 RedFlavor Jowy (29) 1 dobby roro__b (16) 1 awesome5000 The Lukundo (191) 1 DaveDob Jamezbeast (18) 1 Boquise brainbomb (149) 1 PLZLEAVEDUCK mor_tilt (78) 1 MrChuckleteeth Michelle (47) 1 The Lukundo Logic (56) 1 AndrewGreve wiggles1993 (69) 1 CrimsonFox Jarizok (24) 1 Jalandh MrChuckleteeth (114) 1 theknightsofneeee Quick_Ben (20) 1 yogsloth CrimsonFox (80) 1 Frog Zork (27) 71 Not voting Spartan057 (0), Sooh (0), sheepsaysmeep (7), sulit (0), Paratroopa (12), yogsloth (4), Trubbish (6), Riki (0), Pansy Parkinson (12), Efekannn02 (0), NinjaPenguin (7), Bunny (6), Dyslexicon (0), Lady Lambdadelta (0), Laniakea (0), awesome5000 (5), BATMAN (13), shawnad2006 (10), Pilica (0), Magoroth (0), Alice Liddell (24), TehBankertin (47), Jalandh (48), eevee (32), Vader (0), Underking (4), Jan (2), [NSM] Mikey (0), Ryast (19), Garden Gnome (1), Trustworthy Liberal (24), dobby (15), catgode (5), Xxerox (0), Duk3star (16), CatgirlMaple (40), baudib1 (2), Arapocalypse (155), bbt (3), Lord_Darkblade (1), MarkoRaj (27), Fable (9), Relm (0), Panini (6), blinkskater (0), Murska (0), LanMisa (41), Chris (0), Magenta & Gray (0), Angrypotato (62), Limestone (0), Bobbyb85 (1), Scirrus (0), Time Lord (0), 112 (5), Five (0), GreenCatKid (0), JMurder3 (13), Apoc (116), Perry the Platypus (12), Macdougall (0), Cron (42), Dad (0), Coffee Cup (0), AndrewGreve (17), yurkin (21), Champ (86), Impeaceful (5), WaywardSon (73), Icibalus (39), RedFlavor (40) Day 2 ends at 8:00 PM EDT on Tuesday, July 9th, 2019 . There are expired Tue Jul 09 2019 20:01:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) remaining.
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nice to wake up to this
using meta against me is pointless
Do you at least have any non-anni wolf games?
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I think I multi quoted correct I still suck at this site. Here are s lot of GKC votes. They seem jumpy imo, but not in an oppurtunistic/scummy way. The votes are kinda bad and I feel like GKC goes from 0 to 60 very quick when scumreading someone, but there is also kinda an air of authenticity ahout it. So yeah I think this slot is lhf, I’m reluctant to take them out of Poe because quite frankly, there are numerous slots that have been way more pro town.
But, idt we should be lynching GKC anytime soon, the play is unimpressive as I’ve said, sorry that’s becoming a buzz word but I’m not trying to devolve into throwing shit at people’s play in a harsh way, but I don’t see the scum agenda rn that would make them even close to a priority lynch.
tl;dr - GCK is >rand V?
And your thoughts on who may be the third wolf in this case?
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I think I multi quoted correct I still suck at this site. Here are s lot of GKC votes. They seem jumpy imo, but not in an oppurtunistic/scummy way. The votes are kinda bad and I feel like GKC goes from 0 to 60 very quick when scumreading someone, but there is also kinda an air of authenticity ahout it. So yeah I think this slot is lhf, I’m reluctant to take them out of Poe because quite frankly, there are numerous slots that have been way more pro town.
But, idt we should be lynching GKC anytime soon, the play is unimpressive as I’ve said, sorry that’s becoming a buzz word but I’m not trying to devolve into throwing shit at people’s play in a harsh way, but I don’t see the scum agenda rn that would make them even close to a priority lynch.
this post is villagery btw
It’s something, at least.
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creature says that lordquas is a huge shitposter as a wolf and we shouldn’t clear him just based on volume because of that
i told him i’m not clearing him based on volume, but based on his play
ATP he’s basically been thread spewed as V for me.
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think this is about where I’m at.
tiers not ordered internally
Also, why does everyone think i’m scum and not vote for me? It dosen’t make sense. Had a look at Nuxl’s first half of their iso, they seem to be active lurking then?
How are you guys on so often? Don’t you have school homework like me?
Hey guys i’m back from 9 hours of sleep! Had a quick look at the thread. If you guys know mw, you know i don,'t really try day 1 cos its RVS. Anyways
##Vote Mantichora
Because they let me do it whenever i want. I know i haven’t said much so i’ll be analysing confrontations to not be useless.
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well nobody promised an easy gameWell i remember trtharding in virtuoso’s light game… i got lynched day 3 and i was town. I think i’ve never made it to lylo in any of my games here, whats your thoughys on Nuxl?
Hey guys i’m back from 9 hours of sleep! Had a quick look at the thread. If you guys know mw, you know i don,'t really try day 1 cos its RVS . Anyways
##Vote Mantichora
Because they let me do it whenever i want. I know i haven’t said much so i’ll be analysing confrontations to not be useless.
k so, I just… hate this sentiment?
Day one is not random. Day one at least lays foundations for how you approach later days, what you follow up on, and starts shaping suspects. I don’t care if you normally don’t try on day one, you can at least do enough (assuming you’re town) to pare down places for scum to be hiding.
So like are you going to keep the vote on Mantichora, which I don’t think is a serious "I think this person is scum’ vote from your post or are you going to do something useful with it? Or are you going to try to convince people to vote with you? What are you doing?
They are on my scumlist. I want them lynched. What do you think, that i was voting them for president?
Hey guys i’m back from 9 hours of sleep! Had a quick look at the thread. If you guys know mw, you know i don,'t really try day 1 cos its RVS . Anyways
##Vote Mantichora
Because they let me do it whenever i want. I know i haven’t said much so i’ll be analysing confrontations to not be useless.
k so, I just… hate this sentiment?
Day one is not random. Day one at least lays foundations for how you approach later days, what you follow up on, and starts shaping suspects. I don’t care if you normally don’t try on day one, you can at least do enough (assuming you’re town) to pare down places for scum to be hiding.
So like are you going to keep the vote on Mantichora, which I don’t think is a serious "I think this person is scum’ vote from your post or are you going to do something useful with it? Or are you going to try to convince people to vote with you? What are you doing?
They are on my scumlist. I want them lynched. What do you think, that i was voting them for president?
I’m gonna need to hear more about that one.
k so, I just… hate this sentiment?
Day one is not random. Day one at least lays foundations for how you approach later days, what you follow up on, and starts shaping suspects. I don’t care if you normally don’t try on day one, you can at least do enough (assuming you’re town) to pare down places for scum to be hiding.
So like are you going to keep the vote on Mantichora, which I don’t think is a serious "I think this person is scum’ vote from your post or are you going to do something useful with it? Or are you going to try to convince people to vote with you? What are you doing?
They are on my scumlist. I want them lynched. What do you think, that i was voting them for president?
I’m gonna need to hear more about that one.
I’m voting for manti because they are literally active lurking. Next thing you say is ‘your wrong Inpeaceful’ but i just wanted to get my thoughts out, even if i’m wrong and useless and redundant. Time to go achool for me cos i’m not an adult yet and i dont have all the time in the world like you guys do. BYE!!!
yeah I kinda think impeaceful is just town
I’m gonna need to hear more about that one.
I’m voting for manti because they are literally active lurking. Next thing you say is ‘your wrong Inpeaceful’ but i just wanted to get my thoughts out, even if i’m wrong and useless and redundant. Time to go achool for me cos i’m not an adult yet and i dont have all the time in the world like you guys do. BYE!!!
what
active lurking how?i do want an answer to this though
Newcomb really, really hates Impeaceful’s posting and wants him dead
also is uptrending on Jalandh
##Vote Impeaceful
yeah lissa’s reads on impeaceful are like a ping-pong ball
this is probably the case for others
take #1275 and #1408 cuz i still can’t multiquotethe answer to what happened here is “newcomb got home and has a strong wolfread”
We are extremely confident that Mikey is a villager.
I don’t fucking understand why impeaceful and contrainer won’t be wagons.
Newcomb also feels pretty strongly that impeaceful is being bussed by Paranoia.
Mikey come lynch impeaceful with me or contrainer
Here’s Lissa’s entire ISO regarding Impeaceful and some of Impeaceful’s interaction with her.
Lissa begins by giving a surface-level TR on Impeaceful and is pushing on Contrainer hard. This was done in a response to Impeaceful SR’ing Manti for active lurking.
Later on she gets it that Manti was planning to CFD onto her and then does a complete 180 on her read on Impeaceful and swaps from Contrainer to Impeaceful after the push on the former proves to be fruitless.
After Contrainer asks her why the sudden shift on her read she effectively claims that this was because of Newcomb’s read on him and then goes a tantrum over why is nobody pushing on either Impeaceful nor Contrainer.
Ultimately her sudden turn in her read on Impeaceful after after she went into antispew mode is pretty much one of the main reasons I’m SR’ing their slots as I posted close to the SoD. 112’s recent posts pretty much furthers my reasoning here.
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Team wants to know the rest of your team’s takes
We’re kind of mostly in the same spot except we kind of disagree on some points.
Marl hasn’t had many dissenting reads but he disagrees with me putting Beck in the townbloc and still believe that Mikey/Lissa was W/W.
Insomnia has been tunneling Chem the entire day and would rather me lynch him rather than 112.
iaafr is still pushing their tinfoil that Duk3 bussed Lissa, but is more skeptical on our SR on Chemist. Would rather Dusk or 112 to be lynched in this place. He considers AM’s slot to be locked cleared as well and doesn’t want FJP to be shot due to thinking they >rand V.
Limestone’s pretty much a complete mindmeld with me. Additionally he strongly disagrees with iaafr’s tinfoil as he believes Duke was very villagery d1.
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Can I ask you a question and you give me a quick answer, okay? As soon as you both give me a thumbs up ill post it
Fire away.
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Can I ask you a question and you give me a quick answer, okay? As soon as you both give me a thumbs up ill post it
Fire away.
weh
Expected/10.
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Take a look at the interactions between Chingles/112 this entire match. I don’t these two are ever W/W and I’m far more certain on the latter’s wolf equity than the former.
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Take a look at the interactions between Chingles/112 this entire match. I don’t these two are ever W/W and I’m far more certain on the latter’s wolf equity than the former.
I’m not looking at shit at EOD lmao
ok
They’ve been at each other this entire match. I don’t think Chingles ever flips wolf in this case if 112 does it.
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Alice how do you reconcile voting with Chemist on 112
Because Chemist only recently started interacting with 112. Chinges/112 have been repeatedly at each other’s throats since D1 and both of the first two have only started cross-voting each other right when both looked to be the top wagons.
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So like Alice I expected you to have more of a team behind you?
So far we’re mostly agreeing on the same issues regarding 112/Chingles/Chemist.
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Insomnia has been tunneling Chem the entire day and would rather me lynch him rather than 112.
iaafr is still pushing their tinfoil that Duk3 bussed Lissa, but is more skeptical on our SR on Chemist. Would rather Dusk or 112 to be lynched in this place. He considers AM’s slot to be locked cleared as well and doesn’t want FJP to be shot due to thinking they >rand V."
so about this agreement
Neither Insomnia nor Marl plays at the EoD due to timezones. Lime and iaafr are pretty much the ones who are agreeing with me on Chingles.
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Insomnia has been tunneling Chem the entire day and would rather me lynch him rather than 112.
iaafr is still pushing their tinfoil that Duk3 bussed Lissa, but is more skeptical on our SR on Chemist. Would rather Dusk or 112 to be lynched in this place. He considers AM’s slot to be locked cleared as well and doesn’t want FJP to be shot due to thinking they >rand V."
so about this agreement
Neither Insomnia nor Marl plays at the EoD due to timezones. Lime and iaafr are pretty much the ones who are agreeing with me on Chingles.
I think the point is that iaafr doesn’t believe in the Chemist SR.
That’s a negative. All three of us believe that both Chemist and 112 both have high wolf equity, but not Chingles.
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I don’t even know who has highest % to flip wolf out of Poe lads
I just want to flip one so I can start solving the rest off of that and chem prolly gives the most info cause EVERYONE has had to talk about him
No one has been defending me but roro and GCK and neither were that strong so
gck treated you like a buddy real hard
IIRC, GCK did put Chemist as one of his townreads once and was one of the only players not voting for him and kept going for Maxwell instead.
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##Vote Chingles2404
##Vote Chemist1422
Yeah, no. This slot needs to be vig’d tonight, especially with Chemist W.
I have a few remarks after spending three hours looking back through that thread and compiling that ISO. They are as follows:
- Wolf Alice fights and fights hard. I have never seen her this determined, even as town.
I basically hit the character max on both parts, btw
- Wolf Alice tried really hard not to shade. She follows other consensus reads as much as she can.
she hasn’t been wolf on i42 for a year before that
I trust the meta of a different forum 3 months ago more than a meta here 15 months ago
I have yet to iso her this game or see any of her posts whatsoever, which is why she is the nullest person in the game for me atm.
How does a wolf die n1