[VFM] Mountainous Arson - (12/15) - Completed - Town Wins

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#3262

@Alice I agree in the sense that I don’t want to fully clear Jake, because there are still reasons why he might not be town. Same with eevee, honestly. I don’t think the things he did were outside of his scumrange, and relying on ‘Ici doesn’t interact with his scumreads’ feels dangerous.

I still think Magnus should be lynched because what kind of town scumslips as town, twice. That would have to be an achievement at this point if he’s town, and lynching Magnus nicely narrows down the PoE. Magnus is always PoE.

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#3263

I don’t like the idea of lynching Alice here, because I strongly townread her, unlike literally anyone in the PoE.

#3264

And I don’t really see the argument. I don’t think the ‘ooh Ici mentioned Alice several times she must be scum’ really holds water when the argument ‘Ici doesn’t interact with his scumbuds’ has also been used. You should scumread the people he didn’t mention if meta is to be relied upon. I think it’s more likely he was trying to make her look bad in the future.

#3265

Crunching popcorn

#3266

Stop with the wolfy pop-ins already, I hate this.
Just as much as I hate lynching Magnus or would hate lynching Jake, because they’re not even trying and it annoys me. We still have to lynch them though, because there is no way they can coast to endgame (if there ends up being an endgame). Imagine if we left Magnus and Jake alive in LyLo. …Yeah.

I’m not necessarily super opposed to lynching Shurian. The derpclear isn’t enough to clear him and it’s true that he hasn’t been very solvey. It might be because of complacency (since we lynched a mafia n1), or it might be because he’s just mafia and his WiM is down after his buddy was lynched early. I need to re-read his ISO when I can to try and establish which one is the case here.

I think Magnus/Jake should absolutely be lynched and Kyo also. We’re pretty fortunate because we can lynch all three of them and still win the game even if all of them flip town. With that in mind, I don’t think any major changes need to be made.

#3267

What’s the reasoning behind this post though? I mean yeah everyone’s strong here, and I can’t read them… but what makes you think this?

#3268

The amount of town in comparison to the amount of mafia alive + their KPN. We can afford three mislynches and still win the game because we will still outnumber mafia at that point.

Of course, the problem is that all the clears will die to arson if we mislynch that many times, so I would prefer not to.

#3269

I get red flags from this post. It feels like Shurian is trying to look reasonable so we don’t lynch him.
:thinking:
It’s also strangely formal. I’m not used to that stuff from Shurian.

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#3270

Havent read lmao

Also, like all things considered, I currently am looking at the situation…
Now, let’s say we mislynch 3 times, what are we gonna do next? That’s when it’s apparent that every single scum is really good at what they’re doing, god bless us all if we can get out of that mess then. I don’t think we want that.

Aaaaaaa I wanna post here Imma brb in 30 mins

#3271

Fearmongering… :thinking:
I don’t think I’ve ever seen fearmongering come from town. It’s paranoia 99% of the time, fearmongering is 1% or less.

Shurian doesn’t seem paranoid here, he is just sowing seeds of Fear and Doubt.

:thinking: intensifies.

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#3272

That’s my pov.

#3273

/vote Shurian

#3274

Do you think any of the towncore members might be a baddie? If so, tell me what your case is.
I’ve been thinking about the possibility but I think we really are in a situation where there is a ton of lock clears.

#3275

Arete go the heck to sleep instead of liking my posts.

#3276

if it makes you feel any better I woke up early rather than staying up late

#3277

Grrr.

I keep trying to re-evaluate and I consistently circle back to Jake/Magnus/maybe Kyo or Shurian.
Maybe we should just run train on them all without worrying.

#3278

/vote Vulgard

#3279

I feel so attacked right now, smh.
Luhmao.

/intent to crossvote

#3280

If eevee’s slot was anyone but eevee, I would probably be voting there right now, because the slot hasn’t been very towny and the reactiontest on Icibalus is not clearing by any means. Especially since eevee didn’t follow up on it very strongly, he just hammered Icibalus. Being the last vote on a mafia wagon is not clearing unless you voted that wagon over a town at the same L- (and even then bussing exists).

The only reason I’m not voting the slot right now is because it’s eevee and I guess he’s going somewhere with this? I don’t know where though. He’s not helping narrow down the PoE or create a new one if he doubts it. He hasn’t done anything I remember outside of pushing me and reactiontesting Icibalus.

Maybe it’s annoyance speaking through me, but I genuinely don’t think eevee has been towny this match whatsoever and only my better judgment is keeping me from asking everyone to lynch him.

#3281

You know posts like that only make me want you to be lynched more?