[VFM] Poisonous Mafia - (3/17) - Completed

Vulgard, assume that you have D0 information that tells you that I am town.

How would you read Marshal/Arete/DatBird/sulit interaction with me?

Some of them are 100% wolves because youā€™re an easy target. With the assumption youā€™re V.

You are disappointing me @Amelia smh

I did expect a harder push early on to be fair.

I feel like Arete/Marshal/DatBird might be more wolf-free (with a potential wolf) with the later poppers being more wolf concentrated.

You suspecting me could have sealed the deal for a lot of wolves. :man_shrugging:

Iā€™ll go and read and determine who I think are the likely wolves.

Donā€™t you think itā€™s strange that Marshal/Arete/DatBird all felt I was scummy, but they steered on Italy instead?

Arete steered on Italy. And I actually thought it was V indicative. Arete is being more exploratory.

Reminder that last game, where they randed wolf, they voted one person for the entirety of day 1.

You either have a skewed perception of what actually happened, or youā€™re misrepresenting.

So through a quick search -

Arete, Marshal, DatBird, Italy (or at least he hinted towards it), Vulgard, and sulit.

Emilia too but it felt more like pressure application.

Hmm?

Marshal voted me. Arete and DatBird didnā€™t actually vote me but announced their suspicions on me.

Then people voted Italy because of a poor reaction to a vote.

This is how I saw this scenario.

To me, I feel like there are some town on the wagon because it seemed too opportunistic for a wolf to just leave. I think Italy looks more town if one of Marshal/Arete/DatBird ever flip scum.

I hope Amelia is indeed catching up instead of doing fuck all.

ā€¦why did this game begin at around 1 AM? >_>

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Hippo did that thing where he ā€œwould ISO someoneā€ or ā€œwould catch upā€ last game and then he didnā€™t. All game.

That probably shouldnā€™t be tolerated this time around.

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@Vulgard could you elaborate your thoughts on CRichards? Iā€™m skeptical of the townreads heā€™s been getting as heā€™s basically so far only been socketing people on null rather than taking stances, Iā€™d put him as a null at best.

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Was he a wolf or villager that game?

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I have realized that I Like This Place, and playing here, so Iā€™ll be putting my all into this game until I inevitably die night 1.

Wolf.

Third game in a row when nobody seriously wolfreads me so far and itā€™s weird.

I intially thought villa, then I thought wolf, and ultimately landed on null. I think he has an unfortunate case of not doing AI stuff no matter what he rands. @ Virtuous @ his replacement in Evolution Mafia

If Arete/Marshal/Vulgard are all wolves pushing me Iā€™m gonna be sad. Though thatā€™s bloody unlikely.

Arete/Marshal needs to have at least one townie IMO. Iā€™ll trust your soulread here Vulgard because I think I agree with you for the most part that Arete isnā€™t seizing any opportunities here. Same with Marshal, though he doesnā€™t seem to be as assertive, which he did explain - Marshal overall feels townie. You are making me doubt DatBird here - though I canā€™t really point out anything that signalled to me as scum here except for the shade.

Overall Iā€™ve gotten a really villagery feel for those players in the early game because of this.

Then you park your vote on me, due to my entrance and due to some misunderstandings.

CRichard and sulit are also shading me after this vote on me. sulit flat-out votes me, whereas CRichard doesnā€™t, but does seem to have reasons to ā€œsuspectā€ me. By the way, I was kinda joking when I said that CRichard voted sulit meant W/W.

I think CRichard/sulit is seeming a bit V/W.

Italy/Emilia have both also hinted that they donā€™t like me either.

The thing is, what Iā€™ve noticed in Virtuous, is that when you are read as town, both townies and scum alike like to follow you or believe your assertions. I feel like even Iā€™m victim to this, I am kinda doubting DatBird now but itā€™s really difficult for me to find anything that could point to him being wolf besides his shade on me. Thatā€™s why itā€™s a bit difficult for me to obtain a confident read on the wolves here, though I agree that sulit seems opportunistic here.

Again, I find it interesting that I received a lot of shade but not many actually voted for me. Marshal and Vulgard both voted me for an understandable reason, and sulit just sheeped. Others shaded but seemed to refrain from voting me. Iā€™m confused to as why. Could there be a wolf who fears voting me until Town takes on a stronger scumread on meā€¦?

His tone has been very shitposting/trolly which is a towntell from him, so Iā€™d put him likely V from both tone and content AFAIK.

You kind of seem to be acting like V!Vulgard unless your wolf game improved a lot while I was away. The progression on CRichards felt natural and I donā€™t see the level of hesitation you have when youā€™re a wolf in this match.

Also, is Hja/Emilia still with their old meta or have they gone past it?

Iā€™ve just realized this could be TMI, funnily enough.

This just seemsā€¦ really weird. Like he didnā€™t want to say that he had no read, so he said he had a null read. The more I look at it, the more weird it is.

Wait. Thatā€™s some wack progression. Suddenly all three trend upwards?

Like 3 people who I read as villagers have said that this was ??? and Iā€™m inclined to agree.

LAMIST.

Itā€™s kinda funny how this happens and then sulit has this mess of an entrance string.

Now that she has contributed, how do you read her? @CRichard564

Wait, wtf. He says he reads Dat V, then votes on him. What is this progression? Again.

Is this an attempt at self-pres despite having no pressure on him?

This ISO isā€¦ a mess. Iā€™m not getting ā€œvillagerā€ from it, frankly.

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And I second the poisoning Sulit idea. From playing with them they struggle a lot creating content as a wolf and this is pretty much what Iā€™m seeing right from them.

Too many wallposts calm down guys

Oh, I wish. I really wish I could play like this as wolf. Iā€™d be in heaven.

Generally still an easy read. Havenā€™t been wrong on her once.