âTreat a man as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a man as he could be, and he will become what he should be.â
â Ralph Waldo Emerson
Well, if you wish to treat me as âmalice in human formâ, then I will gladly become one.
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03.______
Itâs been a long journey.
âŚhuh. I didnât even notice that this game is my 100th FM game.
âŚwell congratulations future me, I am disappointing myself as usual.
I went to sleep, got up at 1 PM something and spent some time with my family, but I should be here for a bit
Glad to see youâre back!
Iâd like you to do this now.
~ Player 1
Alright, Iâm back with another reads list. Iâm kind of lost atm, so Iâm just putting my PoE, which is everyone except Anagram and Yawn at the moment. Obviously Anagram is towncore. Yawn Iâm not sure about, but they havenât posted since my last reads list and they werenât that low on my reads list anyway, so unless they openwolf today I donât plan on sending them to Hell.
I think the best I can do with the rest of you is look at your connections with Wazza and with each other, so here it goes:
Gorta
I know Zone said it ironically, but seeing this slot do more reading and analyzing is very refreshing and a good look. I think there takes are entirely wrong, but at least theyâre trying now, and clearly forming their own opinions. Now letâs look at their connections to other players.
Raven:
- Likes Raven, thinks they are fine because they are âsolveyâ
Trivial:
- Doesnât think Trivial should vote them into Heaven
- Doesnât like that Trivial isnât solving
- Likes Trivial because of tone
Zone:
- Townreads Zone based on meta
The Zone meta read seems to be fine, they made the same observation with Moleland in the first Hell phase, so I donât see any issues here.
For Trivial and Raven though, their reasoning is weak. A âsolveyâ player isnât necessarily a town player, especially if their reasoning is wack and/or pushing agenda. You also seem to make multiple points against Trivial, but ultimately like their tone and thus townlean them. It feels too much like youâre saying the bad things just to say them and look âsolveyâ yourself but are ultimately ignoring all these things.
Wazza did not mention Gorta in the Heaven phase, but Gorta obviously liked them because they voted Wazza into Heaven. Interestingly enough, they cited tone as a main reason for this read, same as with Trivial.
If Gorta is scum, mostly likely case is Wazza/Gorta/Trivial. Wazza/Gorta/Raven is also plausible.
Raven
I donât have much to say here in the way of reads. As Gorta said, they do seem to be âsolvey,â so Iâll give them that. There reads being off is starting to rub me as weird though. Letâs look at their connections with other players.
Gorta:
- Questions Gortaâs Zone vote in Hell phase
Trivial:
- Liked their casual tone in Hell phase
- Doesnât like that they hadnât posted in Heaven phase at that point
- Didnât want them into Heaven, but didnât seem to not like them?
Zone:
- Doesnât like how Zone is posting
- But thinks Zone would try harder as scum to look good
- Votes Zone for Heaven
Itâs a very similar take on all of them here, so this doesnât give much direction. They were incredibly neutral with Wazza, and Iâm seeing that neutrality here as they donât take a hard stance on any of these players.
For Wazzaâs view of Raven, Anagram correctly pointed out that Wazza shaded them in early Hell phase but switched them to town for âvibesâ. Wazza also points out to Zone that they forgot Raven. Drawing Raven to attention could mean that Wazza doesnât care if Raven is in the spotlight, but it could also be that Wazza remembers Raven more as fellow scum and didnât think of the consequences of bringing them up.
I donât think one scum team sticks out more than the others here, but there seems to be a greater connection with Wazza here than with other players.
Trivial
I donât like this slot. I donât appreciate the lack of effort and the refusal to give reasoning for their reads. They didnât even pretend they werenât sheeping Gorta when they voted. If this is town, Iâm rather disappointed. Connect to other players.
Gorta:
- Voted Gorta to Heaven, didnât give any reason
- Directly sheeps Gortaâs vote, doesnât try to cover it up
- Thinks Wazzaâs flip makes Gorta look worse
Raven:
- âRaven is a wolfâ from notes
- Defaults to Wazza/Raven/Gorta scum team
- Votes Raven quickly when Hell phase starts
Zone:
- ?
I donât see much read interaction with Zone here. They seem to have continuous takes on Raven as well, so I donât think thatâs the scum team. However, their read on Gorta is wild. They voted Gorta to Heaven, then sheeped Gortaâs vote, but now Gorta is definitely scum? Seems like distancing to me.
Wazza doesnât seem to have much in the way of Trivial takes during Heaven phase. However, we have Trivial sheeping Gorta on the Wazza vote. As terrible of a cover it is, I wonder if sheeping Gorta reasoning is cover for them trying to get Wazza into heavenâŚ
If Trivial is scum, the scum team is Wazza/Trivial/Gorta. They donât reference each other much, but there may be a connection between Wazza and Trivial.
Zone
I think we all feel a collective wtf here. The bringer of chaos. He really seemed to want to leave the game, almost begging to be sent to Hell in this phase. And I know heâs challenging Anagram, and that we shouldnât give him that satisfaction of being voted out. But also, I donât want to keep him or townread him because heâs clearly shown that he can use reverse psychology to his benefit. Connecttttttt.
Gorta:
- Sarcastic âyou are putting in effort yayâ from Zone
Raven:
- On their scum team (Raven + Darth + Anagram/Yawn)
- Keeps forgetting to put them in their posts
Trivial:
- ?
Again, not much between Trivial and Zone here, or Gorta and Zone. The forgetting Raven is interesting, every move Zone made in Heaven phase was very deliberate, so thereâs a high chance this move was intentional.
Wazza and Zoneâs relationship is also very weird. Zone clearly wanted Wazza in Heaven and Wazza didnât like that, but Wazza also joined Zone in not liking Anagram but went against Zone for liking me? Iâd think if they were a scum team, they wouldnât be so divided on how they relate to each other, but again, I wouldnât put it past Wazza and Zone, seeing what Zone did last phase.
If Zone is scum, then the scum team is Wazza/Zone/Raven.
So there are two choices for scum team:
- Wazza/Zone/Raven
- Wazza/Gorta/Trivial
And this puts all four of them on the table still. And I think I need to take a step back for a bit so I can compare them later because Iâve been doing this post for far too long. I think the reactions and subsequent interactions between them will be very telling of which is correct.
And look where that got us: a tie.
It wasnât sarcastic though. I hate his inactivity, but I do like him finally doing stuff.
Let me guess: Every form of me denying this possibility will only worsen because of reverse psychology?
Just make your choice. I already chose to die now, so whatâs holding everyone up anyway?
The reverse psychology does put a damper on things. I wish I could trust what you say without having to wonder what youâre planning. Youâre too good at manipulating this game.
Well apparently I still got manipulated in the end since I had townread Wazza despite voting you.
My plan was to stay on you, have you flip scum at best, and be thrown to hell now. Even if you flip town, I could definitely get Wazzaâs and both Anagramâs votes since those people were easy to manipulate.
âbut in the end, the jester was the one who got played, and now I am just waiting to see whether people will townread me or outright send me to hell.
Either way: I am sick of both Anagrams shoving their agenda into my mouth.
- First they told me I didnât have any reads despite that not being the case.
- Now they still scumread me for making a mess out of Heaven Phase 1, and they are deadset thinking that I will do nothing else other than tunnel him.
**** you in particular, Anagram P1.
If you want me to tunnel you, then so be it *****!
You can doubt all you want, but itâs not as if I can tell anything to you that doesnât make you doubt me. I am just âso goodâ (at making chaos) apparently.
Plus, once I get sent to hell, you will see that I didnât lie anyway, and AtE wonât safe me since Anagram, you, and pretty much every non-slanker should have been anti-AtE by now.
In other words: Hurry the **** up and send me to hell already.
im disappointed with me as well, but I am not going to stress over the game of mafia anymore
-k
I wonât deny that I fucked up when I tied that vote
but like I also have to play around Zone here, which makes me not want to bother
because if he is town, he will vote who he wants regardless of anything that tells him its bad anyways
what are we at right now?
3/2?