[VFM] Purgatory III: The Reckoning! Finale. Demons Win!

[Trivial]

vote me if you are gunna shade me
I thought my tone was townie, or did you conclude that, that is a terrible way to read people

[Anagram]

@Anagram

One theory me and P1 talked about was a world where Wazza/Raven are w/w.

Wagons are Raven, me, and Zone.

Wazza tries to start a wagon on Zone, but it does not gain traction.

He can’t reasonably vote us, after placing us at highest townread level.

Mole CFD starts, and Wazza sees this as another way to shift off of Raven. Both Wazza and Raven vote Mole.

I think this world also makes sense with their previous interactions.

Basically this.

Raven was actively posting at the time. It seemed like Wazza was trying very hard to vote elsewhere than in me and Raven. He already had a very strong townread on us, but only mentioned very weak reads on Raven beforehand.

Instead of upping Raven, which would get an active towny out if Raven was indeed town, they keep trying to get CFDs to gain traction instead.

Wazza’s interactions and progression on Raven are also quite weird.

[Trivial]

ok give me new reads then

[Anagram]

(Player 2, apologies)

[Anagram]

@an_gorta_pratai

I will get there, but here’s the deal. I think my initial read on you could be wrong, so I want to give you a second look

What posts originally pinged you?

[Anagram]

Be right back.

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[Trivial]

well i mean Raven if he is town isn’t gunna vote himself, so voting Mole without context isn’t particularly bad

what was his read prior to that vote?

[Trivial]

Yawn’s posts arent atually bad, maybe i’ll retract that scum read
@Yawn can u come back plz

[an_gorta_pratai]

@Trivial

and being inconsistent doesn’t make someone a wolf, their progression matters

It just seems like you tried to TMI me town and were being opportunistic to get out townies that look bad from the Wazza thing. That’s if you are a wolf, I still need to re-eval your slot before making me mind up on that

@Trivial

but that doesn’t hold anything compared to those reads you gave on everyone, that are relatively simple, and I just don’t expect you as a player to be that confident

That’s my style, I read every post someone makes and then tries to explain my read on them. I am also very confident at times. I once tunneled a villager I thought was a wolf for an entire game and I was wrong, but I had confident in that tunnel

@Trivial

ok give me new reads then

Will do, how many more hours in the day?

[Trivial]

@anagram
why arent you voting Raven?

[Trivial]

why would I need to TMI you as town, you voted a wolf, and your reads are easy
lol

[an_gorta_pratai]

I need to go for a bit after making this post, but the one where you talked about not wanting to go to heaven pinged me as something that could come from a wolf. You were the one with the most thread presence and wouldn’t want to go to heaven if you were a demon because you are effectively controlling the thread and could easily help your team, which is why that post slightly pinged me.

[darth_tabor]

This is a very valid argument. I also noticed that despite pointing out multiple bad things about Wazza, Raven tries very hard to remain neutral on their slot. Wazza also brought up Raven quickly a few times in Heaven phase when Zone forgot them, which could be because the first thing they notice is their scum team member not on the list

[an_gorta_pratai]

@Anagram I won’t say you are a demon currently though because I need to re-eval everyone

[Trivial]

meh
raven is still safer
/vote Raven
and Wazza/Raven handling of each other just screams w/w

[an_gorta_pratai]

Maybe I am too paranoid and that causes me to read things out of context

[Trivial]

in a way I can understand
like specifically Anagram/Zone is like a really deep deep deep tinfoil

[Anagram]

Alright. Player 1 is back in business.

@Trivial

so Anagram is clean
Gorta probably clean
Darth clean
I’m clean

so we got Zone/Raven/Yawn

@Trivial

ok maybe it can be Gorta

@Trivial

ok you convinced me
his reads are not even fleshed out

@Trivial

it might actually not be Raven, hmm

@Trivial

its actually probably Yawn/Gorta
its doubtful that Gorta doesn’t wolf read one of his partners in regards to rule of 3
if he is in fact a wolf

@Trivial

Yawn’s posts arent atually bad, maybe i’ll retract that scum read

Stupid take, but this is way too all-over-the-place to come from a wolf. They have zero care for how they are perceived.

@Trivial

why arent you voting Raven?

Was kinda hoping I wouldn’t be asked that.
Pretty sure if we get a wolf to 2/4, Zone will vote them (regardless of alignment), then they will selfvote, and we will lose a lot of time that we could otherwise spend solving.

@an_gorta_pratai

I need to go for a bit after making this post, but the one where you talked about not wanting to go to heaven pinged me as something that could come from a wolf. You were the one with the most thread presence and wouldn’t want to go to heaven if you were a demon because you are effectively controlling the thread and could easily help your team, which is why that post slightly pinged me.

I’m trying to find issues with this post but I don’t really see any?
I actually like this thought-process. Hm.

~ Player 1

[Trivial]

ya that is mostly why I unvoted
and your reasoning for not voting is ok?

[Trivial]

ok how much time do we have left?