[VFM] Purgatory III: The Reckoning! Finale. Demons Win!

His tone and thought process are pretty towny a bit of meta their tho

I’ll see if I can quote a few posts that ping me hard

I’m on mobile so don’t wanna quote a ton but theirs a few early posts I really liked from him

…and then it lasted until the hell phase

dunno exactly why wazza was sent but that EOH was quite bad. I have read up but responding to 400+ posts is unnecessary. Ill get to all of my pings that actually involve me

so, like 8h left, and I seem to be the execution (again). There are two “cases” leveled against me, Yawn’s and Anagram’s.

Yawn’s case is, primarily that they did not like my snap reads from the first half of d1. This doesnt really work when…my reads expand later on those who continued posting? the secondary part of this relies on my self prez vote, which is invalid for obvious reasons

The other Yawn has continued to say “obviously” for little tangible reasons. The best seen is this:

when I was not there at EoD. The only other vote casted by that time was by zone, so it is unreasonable to suppose that I would expect a draw, particuarly with a wagon I didnt expect.

anagrams case is based off of Wazza. I want to tell you I have the answers but I dont know what ran through Wazza’s head. If your a villager, maybe he wanted to through shade your way with the flip, maybe he thought about his progression on my slot, I dont know why wazza did what wazza did, only what I did. Speaking of what I did,

they were not my top.

I didnt go through everyone. I thought your case on Wazza was good, and my mind kind of shut down making new thoughts on the slot after reading it. The people I looked at I thought were people getting alot/not enough heaven attention and gave my cents on them again.


in other words:

gorta is kinda wolfy

he goes from being inconclusive to weak conclusions. The question “why” could be asked for almost all of the reasonings, like he’s trying to back up reads he summoned from the void. If I do get sent to hell this phase, consider this next hell.

Yeah but that’s not wolfy for him

trivial posting again
still like their tone, even if most of their reads seem to still be gut.

give examples?

Feel free to look back at some of his town games I’m on mobile so don’t have recourses but his thought process is interesting

ill look at 63.
is your reason for tring them meta alone?

I read gorta pretty much solely on his tone and thought process

taking this post from gorta in 63, I dont see it as similiar to this game?
they read off of meta, tone, interactions, progression and how they handle thread all at one point or another

apart from a subsection of these reads are conclusive and provide why. The reads here dont really have that.

ill try to pump out a readslist before EoD. dont write them off like mole’s(even though mole was wrong)

5/2 2 hells 1 heaven to remove a wolf, so we have 2 executes that need to have 1 that finds their mark, so 2p PoE. will do this then

Almost 2 days since originally asked.

21 hours since you were asked a second time.

18 hours since you were asked a third time

19 hours since you were asked a question about Darth.


@an_gorta_pratai play the game.
If you are killed and flip V, its on you.
We have given you ample time to explain your thoughts and convince us you are a villager. Take these opportunities.
It’s hard to keep an objective view on you when you’re frustrating me so much.

~P1

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@Trivial @Yawn

One (or both) of you unvote for the time being, please. Raven is likely the exe today but - reasons.

~ P1

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@Zone_Q11
@an_gorta_pratai
@Trivial
@Anagram
@Yawn
@Raven
@darth_tabor

Slightly more than 4 hours remain.

Alright let’s take a look at Raven outside of VCA. It’s unfair to base almost an entire argument on association - and I would like Raven to be able to refute me if I am incorrect.

Maybe my mind will change as I go.
Let’s see.

They have 69 posts. Nice

This is whatever. It gave us bad vibes at the time, as it felt bullshitted, but it’s ultimately NAI.

This, however, felt like a backtrack once they were called out for their push seeming like bad faith. Not the unvote itself (since its RVS), but how they went about it. At least state that you still stand by our behavior being wolfy while you unvote, and not after being questioned.

Didn’t realize the hypocrisy at the time. They are reading Zone as town based on their first post. (so are we, but at least we acknowledge that it isn’t a strong read and most of our reads at the time are gut feelings). They even continue this read into SoHeaven and it looks to be a big portion of their townread on Zone.

State that they see why Trivial has this perspective, but doesn’t state how. When we say that we don’t see how Trivial has this perspective, they don’t bother explaining.

I liked this post from Raven. Filled an otherwise empty thread.

For someone who likes to point out when others don’t use conclusive wording, they don’t use any here.

Just realized they posted their readslist twice in the same post lol. Why

Why would you
Not
Stop people from scumreading you

It doesn’t feel like they think they’re going to die here.
If they don’t think the Anagram wagon is going to take off, why would they not suggest their own CFD, or push more people to vote us?
I don’t see the same panic in them as I felt at EoD when I saw myself as top wagon.
Especially if they have to leave the thread.

Raven, just like I explained my thought-process regarding you, I would like you to explain your exact thought-process at EoHell.

We already talked about this in relation to Wazza.
I find it interesting that they still townread Zone based off of their opener and… selfvote. Its a TWTBAW read and they’re their top town. It’s so flimsy.
Also, this reminded me about their scumread on Yawn.
I don’t understand them not using the same logic for Yawn as they do Zone. They had a gut V read on Yawn for their opener, but moved them down to scumreads because of lack of conclusiveness and weak analysis.
Why didn’t they call these out:

Zone had a lack of conclusiveness earlier in the game.

This is a good post. They’re open to re-evaluation.

Do it.

Interesting.
This is a weird thing for me to refute, since its your reasoning for a townread on us, but if I were a wolf, and I had TMI on you being town, wouldn’t moving my vote to someone LHF - and someone who possibly wouldnt gain traction - make me look better than keeping my vote on you and having you flip V? People would call my push on you agenda.
I think I might be misreading this post of yours. Can you try to explain it in baby words, please.

If keeping Zone alive is -EV, isn’t sending them to heaven and having them possibly be the decider in Judgement day… more -EV?

There were two questions asked. One asked for top town, the other asked who you would send to heaven. Earlier in the day you had Wazza in a list of people you would be fine sending to heaven.

Meh, this is an alright reasoning I guess. I can’t find anything wrong with it.

I’m running out of energy I’ve been doing this for an hour and a half.

Please don’t make a readslist with the intent to have a 2p PoE. Thats not how PoE works.
Find villagers, and bam, you have a process-of-elimination group of potential wolves.
Also what is this math
We need 2 wolves out not 1.
Wolves need 1 wolf out.
… Am I reading this wrong?


Too tired for full conclusion
I’ve done too many of these readthrus and its destroying my brain.
I think Raven is wolfing.

Also a Raven elim is good for us here. If he somehow flips V, I’m pretty sure that just makes Darth a villager, and we know that Wazza didn’t vote Raven at EoHell because he was likely pocketed.

If Raven is a wolf then we get a wolf

~ Player 1

@Anagram
if raven is town, where do you look?

Here.

I will also just re-evaluate literally everything because apparently I suck at playing the game.

~ Player 1

But I’m pretty sure v!Raven makes Darth V. I’ll check them out nonetheless.

~ Player 1