[VFM] SFoL -1: Hall of the Incendiary - Night 6 - Cult wins!

/unvote

I’m leaving for work in fifteen minutes btw

I don’t work Tuesday-Thursday though

Anyways, I’m voting Shrek as the only thing he has done is sheep which is a liability for town.

This is a fair thing but I am trying to think if anyone does this on a casual basis and what faction they usually are as a… lets say comparative thing to Shrek

If you’re trying to hunt for these alternative accounts, I doubt much will come from it.

Thank you though Light, it’s appreciated.

Who do “they” think are the other two wolves then?

Whysper and Me

Arete Does a Computer Votecount, and then Arete copies it (thx)

Vote Target Voted By Votes
GGhana Leafia, demoknighttf2, Shrek_Gurl_12, SirDerpsAlot 4/7
sulit Whysper 1/7
Shrek_Gurl_12 ATNoName 1/7
Not Voting sulit, GGhana, Benjamin_Shapiro, ScaledSlinky, PokemonKidRyan, Illwei, Light 7
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I see. I’ll look into this at the very least.

I’ll be back, class is a bitch.

Also, a follow-up, I’m back to townleaning SDA because Mist flipped town so the d1 cfd doesn’t really matter as much

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/vote light

no one is allowed to act like I’m stupid and like I believe this

still not done with reads. or school. did make some macaroni though

I have a lot of homework

will try to be around when i can

Arete Does a Computer Votecount, and then Arete copies it (thx)

Vote Target Voted By Votes
GGhana Leafia, demoknighttf2, Shrek_Gurl_12, SirDerpsAlot 4/7
sulit Whysper 1/7
Shrek_Gurl_12 ATNoName 1/7
Light Illwei 1/7
Not Voting sulit, GGhana, Benjamin_Shapiro, ScaledSlinky, PokemonKidRyan, Light 6

/unvote
not sure if neccesary
doing it anyways

Mukuro Ikusaba, the 16th player, hidden in this game, the one they call the Ultimate Votecount

Vote Target Voted By Votes
GGhana Leafia, Shrek_Gurl_12, SirDerpsAlot 3/7
sulit Whysper 1/7
Shrek_Gurl_12 ATNoName 1/7
Light Illwei 1/7
Not Voting sulit, GGhana, Benjamin_Shapiro, ScaledSlinky, PokemonKidRyan, Light 6
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I do not know whether to try voting you for this or praising you.


In all honesty, we have some interesting things to do today.
I have not been a fan of Leaf. AT is not a fan of Shrek. So overall the GGhana wagon seems not the best composed

Key

Basically Conftown , Town , Slight Town , Slight Scum , Scum


- GGhana

A few words

They started off onD1 with some weird Shenanigans: Being joking and aggressive to prompt activity, attacking someone for placing a vote in RVS, then constantly asking people what their opinions were on different things.
They then got very tunnel-y on their first post, and whenever someone suspected them they would get really defensive about it and angry.
The Editing posts thing is interesting, but I need to see who commented about it. I was also told on my other forum that it was suspicious (because I do it all the time) but then again, I do it all the time. I don’t know what to think about that.
Then they go and tunnel for a while, and do some other things that I think add up to being Village and overeager. I don’t think I would vote to save them at this point.

- Whysper

A few words

First thing they did was hop on and give reads. I like that, very nice.
They post more longer in-depth posts it seems, which is nice, but also could imply that they feel the need to overexplain themselves as an Elim.
(I also don’t like anyone who voted on Gorta, for whatever reason. Voting out someone who’s basically inactive is so useless most of the time, and ESPECIALLY on D1. Later in the game it’s better, but even if we had killed Ghana and Ghana flipped village, it would still tell us more than whatever happened with Gorta.)
Whysper also put Ghana in her Town Reads, then started to express Doubt almost right away. I’ll look at this more if either of them ends up flipping Elim.
I also reluctantly agree with Demo about flow, except I wouldn’t call it that. It feels to me like she thinks she needs to overexplain everything.

- Derp

A few words

Basically he has been doing a lot of things that equal trying to look active but not being active: Reads with no context, Short responses that contain nothing, Jokes. Even on D3 now and he’s still not really giving anything.
He waits around and complains about there not being people for him to respond to, but he himself is not a person that anyone could reasonably respond to. I have so little to put here because of that.
After reading over the Misty stuff I think that that pushes him a bit up in my reads, because that seemed natural. My other Idea is pocketing which it could be, but it feels natural. Derp did vote Gorta a lot earlier into the cycle as well, so it wasn’t that out of the blue.

- Light

a few words

The fact that light was suspected before for a “slip up” and then he proceeds to make a joke about slipping up is basically what puts him here for me mostly.
They also make quite a few jokes about being scum.
They were very flippy floppy on GGhana: they marked him as Scum and then proceeded to point out some things that indicated Townie.
They pointed out Elim!Leafia’s Meta right at the start of the game, before we would have a chance to see anything usually you’d want to wait and see what happens, instead of pointing it out and giving the Elims a chance to improve… Not an AI thing Right now, but potentially a w/w interaction, and something I want to look more at if one of them Flips Elim.

- Leafia

Lots of words, Sorry.

Leafia seemed to find Misty village for no reason whatsoever, and this whole “Innocent until proven guilty” thing feels like an easy scum coverup.

I know I’ve said this a few times, but also them throwing around their vote at EoD1. I know that that’s NAI, but it’s how they acted as though they had reasonings. As if they needed to find a place to put their vote, but they didn’t want to look as if it was random-even though I wouldn’t question it if it was more random. Leafia followed onto Gorta in the end, somehow beliving he was an Elim (though not giving any reasons) , despite him basically not saying anything and Leafia not giving any reasoning.
As for the “Why didn’t they just vote for Misty then?” Misty didn’t have her vote on Leafia at that point, she had her vote (and Derp’s) on Gorta. If Leafia voted Misty then Misty and Gorta would most likely self pres onto Leafia.

While flailing for survival, Leafia says THESE:

To me, these SCREAM scum who is about to die so it doesn’t matter what they say this cycle as long as they can survive one more. how does NO ONE else see this that way? this is Vanilla, no one can prove anything. This really feels like Leafia grasping at straws to survive. and it worked. somehow.

In Leafia’s reads, they mark almost everyone Town for little reasons. AT, Me, Sulit, and Ghana. They don’t give reasons though, they just say “I like them” for Village, and “I don’t like them” or “They were Sheepy” for scum.
They also include the now dead Gorta in there, saying “really thought he would flip wolf” as if they had a really strong feeling and it wasn’t a self pres vote. Which it was. The only reason I can think is that they feel guilty, and that they need to justify it.

The one thing I see that reads more Village to me is:

This gives off stressed village vibes, but the fact that they said “I miss being scum” unsettles me. it feels the same as them saying “Wolf!Leafia wouldn’t do this”

And don’t tell me that speaking like that isn’t AI, because everything is technically NAI if you look at it the right way.

– a few incoherent notes taken as I read through the thread –

  • initially reads gghana as town, then sais they don’t know.
  • Disagree that scum wouldn’t call themselves scum. I always scumread myself in my readslists.
  • Almost certain that Sulit is scum
  • Explicitly states that she is not Wolf!Leafia.
  • Leafia leans on PKR for support, thinking that’s a w/v interaction
  • Does a complete 180 onto saying she wouldn’t mind a GGhana vote.

I’m putting these out right now so that people can know at least some of what I’m thinking.
I’ll have more later.

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Your reads are bad

The only reason I liked the post is because at least they explain stuff but idk how to feel about them

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Your leaf is read is like mostly quoting NAI and towny stuff for them lol @Illwei

???

What