First of all, Light is very questionable for me and I’m getting a scum vibe about him. I’m in the middle of doing an ISO on him, and I found a few spots pertaining to this.
You make it sound like he had a high town read on you with no possible progression towards voting on you today, but I do see where he states that he’s not so sure about you.
So I would say there’s progression. However, he could have been setting up the progression. Hedging as you noted. But then, does that mean he was expecting Derps to call for the CFD on Gorta so that he had reason D1 to want to save you but then reason D2 to vote for you? That seems like a stretch.
Again though, I’m not clearing Light or saying he can’t be scum. I’m just arguing that your argument about lack of progression is weak by itself. And actually the fact that he decided to vote on you early D2 seems like a bad idea if he were scum. I would think he’d wait a bit, maybe let others make more of an argument against you on their own. Maybe only shade you, but not vote yet.
An example of what? Do you mean an example of Light town leaning Misty? I’m not saying he wasn’t. Just saying that he made statements indicating that his town lean possibly wasn’t strong.
I was referring to the idea that he was possibly hedging on Misty’s slot. Giving indications that while he town leaned her, he wasn’t so sure.
So I was considering whether these were his true thoughts or if it was a planned progression to go from voting in a way to save Misty D1 but then have reasons to switch to voting against Misty D2.
Who was saying what was the hedge? Light? Saying the part you quoted was the hedge? I don’t understand.
I do think Light was possibly hedging on Misty. At the same time though, it doesn’t seem like a good idea to use that hedge so quickly to vote on Misty early D2 if he were scum.
Well, reading over my own post, I guess I can see why you don’t understand. My thoughts are a bit jumbled on Light and what happened. I’m kind of going back and forth.
And I find myself not liking making any of these arguments that seem to support him when I have it in the back of my mind that he might be scum. Perhaps I should have waited until I came to a conclusion on Light. But the posts from Light about Misty just came up in my review of his ISO, so I thought I’d comment to Misty about them.
Here are some more quotes regarding Light’s progression/hedging on Misty’s slot. In the second one, while saying he town read her, he indicated that it wasn’t based on much evidence. So a change of heart while re-evaluating later could certainly be a result.
Again, while I think there’s potential for Light to be scum, this seems like an awful lot of setup for a plan to later switch to voting on Misty D2. Would Light really think ahead and put this much effort into such a plan?
Hmm, really? I think it would depend on how much they’ve played before as town. Though he’s spectated before, this is GGhana first actual game. I don’t know that he’d think about townreading his accusers. Also not sure what’s usually done in ToL where he comes from. Anyway, this seems like weak reasoning.
Another weak reason? He later admitted he misread what Demo wrote. But it was a weak reason in the first place, like he was just looking for things to jump on.
Okay, I assume this was due to meta. But still seems rather early and sudden. I could see just ignoring a read on Derps as people often do until later.
So he’s responding to criticisms due to not reading the OP. But what’s he trying to say about GGhana? Is he scum leaning GGhana?
His frustration seems reasonable and townish. Scum would probably be more worried about seeming to ignore questions or accusations.
So is this a scum lean on them? Or just that they acted poorly as town?
Does GGhana’s comment really deserve such a harsh criticism? And again, is this a scum lean for GGhana, or NAI?
I guess this implies he gives a scum lean. But still weird how he doesn’t just come out and say it.
Jokingly denies death-tunneling GGhana.
Gives these as his scum leans at the bottom of his read list.
Then decides he feels like switching votes?
Gives some reads, though I don’t know what the actual read is for Ben.
Jokes about being scum while giving explanation to Misty about town reading them.
And then jokes about Sulit being other scum partner.
Openly admitting to power wolfing. I could see Light doing this as either alignment.
He does have an early indication that his town lean on Misty isn’t strong, so this could explain his move D2 to voting Misty. But is he truly expressing feelings as town uncertain about the slot, or was this scum preparing for progression towards accusing Misty?
GGhana appears to be back as his biggest SR even though he earlier admitted to tunneling him and temporarily switched to Demo. I’m not sure what happened on this view later. Was this completely dropped, or did Misty somehow become a bigger priority on D2?
Okay, so this happened early D2. So while he had early progression for possibly switching from town leaning Misty to suspecting her, I think the particular reasoning he gave for placing the vote is weird/weak. He doesn’t even talk about how Misty might have been scum working on the CW with Derps.
Also, would scum really play this card so early D2? It doesn’t look good. Why not let others develop more arguments against Misty first? There was likely to be suspicion about everyone on Gorta’s wagon.
And what ever happened to the strong scum read on GGhana? I don’t see any mention of him D2.
Conclusion: Light gets a scum lean. However, I’ll admit this is based more on vibe and just not liking his reasoning. He seems to death tunnel GGhana D1 for weak reasons, but then drops this completely D2 in favor of voting for Misty. Again giving a weak reason for the vote even though he has other potential reasons to give that would be stronger. But I can’t help coming back to the thought that his approach does not seem like a good idea for scum, which is why I don’t fully scum read him.
