[VFM] Town vs Bandits - Day 5 (4/13) - Bandits Win!

[Emilia]

@Arctic

kind of like she didn’t really care that it was happening

I mean I literally said that

[WindwardAway]

fuck i posted that too soon

@Prophylaxis

marl i still think is likely v but he was really egging me on about vulgard yesterday which is making me paranoid

also paranoid about spf since like. i know they were around for most of yesterday and asked some very good, thought-provoking, nuanced questions, but i feel like they were very intentionally playing curt yesterday, and i don’t exactly know what that means for her alignment. top of my list to reread today

gonna try to sort out windward today - she’s been playing completely differently in most of the games i’ve been with her but idk if that means that she’s just compressed for time or she is a wolf. i don’t get her progression on me

i know this post is hedgy as all get out but vulg’s v flip kinda shattered most of the confidence I had in this game, and i’m afraid we’re dealing with some elite wolf rand or something

why is it you’re afraid of an “elite wolf rand” but you’re just kinda idk, shading everyone? at least that’s what it looks like to me because you plopped a bunch of people in your poe that i think are probably town and you don’t seem to have made up your mind on me, whereas in ciconia you had a more solid read even though you voiced paranoia. it just looks like you’re filling your reads with paranoia and it looks a bit fake.

@Alice

Your EoD was horrible and felt like you had no conviction over your reads, and that’s kinda why I voted you.

Also Emilia and you have different wolfranges. It’s why I’m basically clearing Leafia for not TMI’ing the entire solve by mid-d1 while I’m not doing the same to SPF.

I don’t know why you expect me to have any sort of conviction in my reads when I haven’t read most of the thread and was getting yelled at for about half an hour at dinner while trying to draft a quick legacy post while everyone else was trying to steal my phone from me
there was literally nothing i could do about it and it’s actually wolfy that you’re pushing me for it.

and yes, I know my wolfrange is completely different from emilia’s. i never said i expected you to read us on the same metric but i don’t see why you’d expect me to post immediately at SoD if I wasn’t in the thread for a couple minutes.

[WindwardAway]

@Prophylaxis

@WindwardAway

why the heck is this your poe?

i mean, strongest townreads. mixed up my language there

oops ok
ignore what i said about that then

[Alice]

@WindwardAway

I don’t know why you expect me to have any sort of conviction in my reads when I haven’t read most of the thread and was getting yelled at for about half an hour at dinner while trying to draft a quick legacy post while everyone else was trying to steal my phone from me
there was literally nothing i could do about it and it’s actually wolfy that you’re pushing me for it.

and yes, I know my wolfrange is completely different from emilia’s. i never said i expected you to read us on the same metric but i don’t see why you’d expect me to post immediately at SoD if I wasn’t in the thread for a couple minutes.

Fine, then you have 48 hours.

[Arctic]

@Arctic

i don’t think there’s really anyone unlikely to be a wolf with him except like eli because at eod i noticed eli kept telling wind to leave and go do real life stuff when wind was saying she wanted to sheep one of her townreads to place a vote before leaving, and i think i’m her main townread and i was voting willtaylor, so this doesn’t really make sense if willtaylor and eli are both mafia since willtaylor could have still gone over.

i fucked this up, i meant eli is likely to be partnered with him

[willtaylor]

Do you say that because I correctly read you and vulguard

[WindwardAway]

@Alice

Fine, then you have 48 hours.

48 hours for what, solving the game? pulling an IC in the thread? or eating dinner?

[Prophylaxis]

@Arctic

@Prophylaxis

where are you at today?

my house

@Prophylaxis

if will is a wolf, then who are his buddies?

i don’t think there’s really anyone unlikely to be a wolf with him except like eli because at eod i noticed eli kept telling wind to leave and go do real life stuff when wind was saying she wanted to sheep one of her townreads to place a vote before leaving, and i think i’m her main townread and i was voting willtaylor, so this doesn’t really make sense if willtaylor and eli are both mafia since willtaylor could have still gone over. idk what to make of his emilia read, at first i thought it looked unaligned but then i thought it could be TMI/bussing because the reasons were bad and emilia’s attempt to engage with the push was pretty lackluster, kind of like she didn’t really care that it was happening

Do you think newb scum are likely to bus their partners immediately when they get into the thread? I don’t think so?

Because I think newb scum when they see their role PM and win condition are likely to… play in a way that advances their win condition, right? Not just immediately call out one of their buddies’s posts as fake immediately?

[Alice]

Look, I’m not in a good mood and if I keep posting then I’ll just tilt everyone else, so I’ll just stop now.

Hunt wolves.

[willtaylor]

Discuss it please

[WindwardAway]

Will, since you’re here - have you ever played ToL or ToS? Just wondering how familiar you are in general with social deduction games.

[Prophylaxis]

Also Arctic: I wanted some sort of general summation of where you’re at WRT reads this game, and for you to focus a little less on will and focus more on the other 10 players in the game. You’ve been pretty focused on arguing with Ghana about will but I want to know where your head is at.

[willtaylor]

I used to play a LOT of ToS/ToL

I wanted to get back into it, but rn there’s some gamebreaking visual bug in ToL

I knew what forum games were (never played one tho) so I made an acc and joined the only open enrollement (the misc)

I wanted to do an actual game too so I joined this when it opened

Also I knew vul was town

[GGhana]

the wonderful thing about forum mafia is that everyone has something to bring to the table

no opinion is bad or wrong or whatever

I think you should bring silence

[willtaylor]

The lingo I’ve picked up from just this thread, I haven’t looked deeply into other forum mafia games (I did look into the previous version of my misc)

[willtaylor]

Also the mafia wiki is very helpful for acronyms

[Emilia]

will prolly >rand V for caring enough bout v/v wagons

[Prophylaxis]

@WindwardAway

why is it you’re afraid of an “elite wolf rand” but you’re just kinda idk, shading everyone? at least that’s what it looks like to me because you plopped a bunch of people in your poe that i think are probably town and you don’t seem to have made up your mind on me, whereas in ciconia you had a more solid read even though you voiced paranoia. it just looks like you’re filling your reads with paranoia and it looks a bit fake.

In Ciconia you were also self-resolving. I didn’t read Day 1 at all and figured you were either going to die at some point in that game or I was going to have to re-examine you.

I’m re-evaluating everyone because I think I’m on the wrong track WRT to this game and I need to figure out what wolves are the most complacent/most comfortable with thread consensus. I know I was pushing the consensus hard yesterday, but I believe it to be wrong because of the Vulg v flip and the katze NK.

I am paranoid because I no longer have a decent handle on this gamestate and I need to recalibrate my reads to a point where I do.

[GGhana]

there is another person I think should also bring the valuable gift of silence to thread

thread being strangled to death someone call an ambulance

[GGhana]

@GGhana

there is another person

this person is me