[VFM] Town vs Bandits - Day 5 (4/13) - Bandits Win!

why the heck is this your poe?

why would a wolfteam with eli on it be afraid of katze specifically?

Your EoD was horrible and felt like you had no conviction over your reads, and thatā€™s kinda why I voted you.

Also Emilia and you have different wolfranges. Itā€™s why Iā€™m basically clearing Leafia for not TMIā€™ing the entire solve by mid-d1 while Iā€™m not doing the same to SPF.

my house

i donā€™t think thereā€™s really anyone unlikely to be a wolf with him except like eli because at eod i noticed eli kept telling wind to leave and go do real life stuff when wind was saying she wanted to sheep one of her townreads to place a vote before leaving, and i think iā€™m her main townread and i was voting willtaylor, so this doesnā€™t really make sense if willtaylor and eli are both mafia since willtaylor could have still gone over. idk what to make of his emilia read, at first i thought it looked unaligned but then i thought it could be TMI/bussing because the reasons were bad and emiliaā€™s attempt to engage with the push was pretty lackluster, kind of like she didnā€™t really care that it was happening

i donā€™t have the time to post much right now, so iā€™ll catch up later this evening when i get the chance. i just wanted to pop in to say that based on the posts iā€™ve read so far today, i really feel like people are speaking over each other instead of at each other. i really hope the communication in this game gets better, both for the sake of winning and for the sake of making this game more readable lol

the vulgard flip switched my reads around a little bit, but most of it is speculative. iā€™ll elaborate later

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No, why?

im guessing you meant towncore but you still get an Outstanding Move from me

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how is my cautiousness something you expect from my wolf game? Iā€™m always consistently unsure of myself because I donā€™t want to be wrong.

even in ciconia I was pretty unsure if pigeon was gonna flip wolf, and my strongest wolfread at eod2, rue, was town (i projected confidence but it very quickly fell to the wayside when I realized that rue might have been villaging and that no one was really listening to me). i vigged wazza in that game who i thought was town. etc

i mean, strongest townreads. mixed up my language there

I donā€™t know. Iā€™ve never played with katze, Iā€™ve only ever watched them wolf in the FAM game. They really praised my process in Ciconia which made me feel good, despite me not playing that well in that game

Nope, I picked it up from reading the messages in this thread

I mean I literally said that

fuck i posted that too soon

why is it youā€™re afraid of an ā€œelite wolf randā€ but youā€™re just kinda idk, shading everyone? at least thatā€™s what it looks like to me because you plopped a bunch of people in your poe that i think are probably town and you donā€™t seem to have made up your mind on me, whereas in ciconia you had a more solid read even though you voiced paranoia. it just looks like youā€™re filling your reads with paranoia and it looks a bit fake.

I donā€™t know why you expect me to have any sort of conviction in my reads when I havenā€™t read most of the thread and was getting yelled at for about half an hour at dinner while trying to draft a quick legacy post while everyone else was trying to steal my phone from me
there was literally nothing i could do about it and itā€™s actually wolfy that youā€™re pushing me for it.

and yes, I know my wolfrange is completely different from emiliaā€™s. i never said i expected you to read us on the same metric but i donā€™t see why youā€™d expect me to post immediately at SoD if I wasnā€™t in the thread for a couple minutes.

oops ok
ignore what i said about that then

Fine, then you have 48 hours.

i fucked this up, i meant eli is likely to be partnered with him

Do you say that because I correctly read you and vulguard :slight_smile:

48 hours for what, solving the game? pulling an IC in the thread? or eating dinner?

Do you think newb scum are likely to bus their partners immediately when they get into the thread? I donā€™t think so?

Because I think newb scum when they see their role PM and win condition are likely toā€¦ play in a way that advances their win condition, right? Not just immediately call out one of their buddiesā€™s posts as fake immediately?

Look, Iā€™m not in a good mood and if I keep posting then Iā€™ll just tilt everyone else, so Iā€™ll just stop now.

Hunt wolves.

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Discuss it please

Will, since youā€™re here - have you ever played ToL or ToS? Just wondering how familiar you are in general with social deduction games.

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Also Arctic: I wanted some sort of general summation of where youā€™re at WRT reads this game, and for you to focus a little less on will and focus more on the other 10 players in the game. Youā€™ve been pretty focused on arguing with Ghana about will but I want to know where your head is at.