[VFM] Town vs Bandits - Day 5 (4/13) - Bandits Win!

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#481

Alright. Looks like a dissertation about a part of my playstyle is in order.

In the early-game, I overplay my feelings a lot to get the game going. I very rarely go back to any takes I expressed in the early-game unless I feel like they’re viable long-term. In this specific game we’re playing right now, that take would be “Arctic and Leafia town.”

The SPF/Chloe read was not a preflip. I just called them “not W/W,” which is a dissociative, not a preflip. I’m not sure how everyone could’ve read that post and concluded I was preflipping these two, when I clearly wasn’t. W/V and W/W would be preflips, but “not W/W” is the opposite, really.

#482

Also, I’m making an alt with this name at some point.

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#483

Before closely scrutinizing, I have cursory townreads on Chloe, SPF, Proph. Stronger townreads on Arctic and Leafia – pretty much maintaining the reasoning from when I originally made the read. Arctic and Leafia’s later posting also didn’t strike me as wolfy.

Chloe/SPF are pretty much a “depth of thought” read. Yes, I do respect their wolfgames. But no, I don’t think that should stop me from townreading them, when I believe their depth of thought and angles of consideration represent a TMI-less perspective.

Proph is me wanting to assume he’s town until proven otherwise, because like he said, we’ve wanted to play a game together for a while.

#484

Marl’s posting has seemed surprisingly limp and I wouldn’t be surprised if he were a wolf for it.

That said. About Chloe and other people who pointed out my bad reads in Ciconia. I know my reads are bad. Do you really think I’m incapable of realizing my read accuracy’s horrible? That’s why I’m not trying to strongarm the thread or anything. The earlygame wolfread on Chloe was overplayed to get the game going. That’s what I regularly do in early-games. I can link to other games where I did the exact same thing and was often wolfread for it.

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#485

i have no idea what the answer to this question is but thank you for introducing me to the term “townsplain”

the reasons for scumreading both of them are bad, i’ll give you that
but i think the actual associative read itself isn’t bad, just what it’s based on is

proph’s posting is incontrovertibly villagery and fits with what i’m used to, i also agree with a lot of his takes but i’m not really sure what to do at this stage because i know he’s perfectly capable of coming up with everything he has as a wolf. there isn’t really something at the level of nuance of like, spf’s take i commented on earlier for example that show he’s really going into deeper analysis. im gonna be super paranoid of this slot since i just finished a game where i worked with him pretty well, so he knows what he has to do if he wants to buddy up with me.

#486

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/vote Marl @Wazza

even if we ignore the fact that marl’s opener is as he says lackluster, the self-awareness is the cherry on top for me

okay this is probably the next level of what i was trying to say would be, but i don’t think it’s this bad. the stuff he’s saying is agreeable and this makes me subconsciously village read it, but then i get brought back down to earth and remember that i shouldn’t really be doing this

#487

i mean i expected this from you since you’re a wolf anyway

#488

i had a similar thought but the fact this was like his fisrt actual substance post actually makes me think the opposite, to be honest. by his own admission in ciconia, faking dumb paranoia/tinfoils is incredibly easy and he does this all the time as a wolf. the fact this was his first real thing to say about the game doesn’t help me shrug off the feeling that it was deliberately crafted

#489

you’ve also conveniently ignored all of my actual content in your quotes :joy_cat:

#490

i haven’t finished reading like 15 posts, if your read on me is in there then i’ll get to it in a second

#491

No it isn’t, his wallposting is wolfy as shit and is exactly what I expected from him coming into today

Almost all of it is just full of nothingburgers about Vulgard and Chloe, as far as I can tell I didn’t actually grasp a single opinion of his in that post at all, it’s a good wall but that doesn’t mean it’s a villagery one.

Plus the whole “I’m just gonna stay in thread and wait for people to interact with me” thing from him feels like it’s more likely to come from a wolf this game state because I think a wolf is more likely to want to try to be slightly more frozen than they usually are considering the player list

Also the fact that I’ve mindmelded with Alice on basically everything is a very good look, marl’s posts all suck

#492

Proph’s walls all feel like he’s trying to appeal to everyone rather than give any actual opinions of his own.

#493

marl sus

#494

Members of Society:

Alice
SPF
Arctic
Chloe
Emilia

Imposters:

Proph
Marluxion

#495

Votecount

Voted Voters Count
Vulgard Chloe, Prophylaxis 2
GGhana Leafia 1
Prophylaxis GGhana 1
Marluxion Arctic 1
Not Voting Alice, willtaylor, Marluxion, staypositivefriend, WindwardAway, Vulgard, EliThePsycho, Emilia 8

Majority is disabled for today.

#496

do you ever hate a post so much because of how blatently dishonest it is but you don’t bring it up because it’s from a villager

#497

tfw you can’t quickhammer

#498

wow who could have predicted this

#499

i wasn’t defending chloe, i was mainly attacking the read because i don’t think someone warning people to watch their postcount is AI and i didn’t understand why vulgard said it’s wolfy because it’s specifically chloe (i still don’t really, but i’ve kind of given up at this point)

this is a pretty blatant misrepresentation
i didn’t townread or scumread chloe at this point, nor did i imply that i agreed with vulgard’s post. i said that i liked it, because while the reasons for scumreading the two were individually bad, the content of the anti-associative read was actually insightful

the fact you said that i’m trying to pocket vulgard when i literally just called him wolfy before this shows that you aren’t really thinking about the game in the good faith

#500

Legitimately if you are actually trying to solve the game how do you get me trying to pocket vulgard after i just called him wolfy and even in the post where i said i liked his read i still said it weirded me out