[VFM] Town vs Bandits - Day 5 (4/13) - Bandits Win!

[Emilia]

What about arctic/emilia

[Leafia]

I bet Proph’s vote will be for Arctic here honestly. I’ll be surprised if it’s for anyone else honestly.

[Arctic]

worse than proph/emilia

[Leafia]

You claiming that the wolfteam is you and Arctic here?

[Emilia]

We’ll do it if you keep making bad reads tho

[Emilia]

No the arctic/emilia cross I mean

[Leafia]

Oh. Not possible though since Proph is voting first. He’s the only one I feel is guaranteed to be a wolf here.

[Prophylaxis]

hi

let me read up on what happened a couple of hours ago

[Prophylaxis]

@Arctic

bruh
i didn’t vote wisp because there was no need to, he was always going to be the elimination and i didn’t want to put him closer to hammer

i asked you to consider worlds where he flipped town because i wanted to know where your reads were at so that if you were mafia you couldn’t perfectly strategize your mislynch the next day

yes, but why has your vote movement been so limited, and why was your progression on the wisp slot so disjointed

@Arctic

i think she is a villager

her content is underwhelming and i expect more from her
it’s particularly lacking in a deeper analysis of posts on a micro level which is usually how i find her as a villager

but i think i can attribute this to her missing the start of the game and not being able to get a solid grasp of the thread due to her position

i think her weird thing with gghana and the way she’s repeatedly done stuff like “i was waiting to see how X reacted to me also doing Y” is stuff i’ve only seen her do as a villager
i can get examples in a second

@Arctic

like this is quintessential weird wind stuff i only see her doing as a villager, the way she solves around her own slot and expects people to interact with her reflects the villagery sense of entitlement i’m used to from her

i expect her posts to be better tomorrow, and if not then i’ll have to re-evaluate but i think this is probably v wind

@Arctic

i’m gonna dip in a sec

probably don’t kill wind
probably kill willtaylor

@Arctic

ive never misread wind and i dont plan on doing so this game
i thought her d1 content was bad but the way she felt entitled with her solving was more reminiscent of her v game nothing she’s done is clearing and i expected her to step it up today but she hasn’t really
there isn’t really the paranoia and weird processes going on in wind’s posting and i feel like she’s been interacting with me less than usual
like when she’s v she usually responds to pretty much everything i say with whether she agrees or disagrees but that’s not happening this game lol

will is still probably mafia lol i don’t think anything he’s done today has been villagery

@Arctic

…i kind of townread the way that wisp isn’t trying to appeal to gghana here? like let’s look at this from a w!wisp world. wisp is pushing on proph, gghana is also pushing on proph (i’m preflipping gghana v for this and none of you can stop me, man is almost always a villager anyway). you’d think wolf wisp would try to appeal to gghana here/egg them on right? but they aren’t. i think this is probably more likely to come from a villager who’s actually analysed proph’s posts and came to the conclusion that gghana’s thoughts on the slot were bad while still scumreading the slot for different reasons, which shows a high level of commitment to genuinely solving proph’s slot. if they were a wolf, i think they would have just agreed/acted pockety with gghana instead of this lol

i do believe that you tried to push the willtaylor counterwagon over the windward one judging by your post 1446

[Prophylaxis]

@Emilia

Or because vul is a better player and thus better ML.

Also i agreed with Alices proposal to CFD to wind, but she never changed her vote so.

okay, I did check and you did say “want?” to her when she had the urge to CFD to windward near EoD

are you able to do this for me

@Prophylaxis

@Emilia

Are you able to like

sum up your scumread on Arctic in a couple of sentences, or write some bullet points about why you think he’s a wolf and why?

I know you’ve been wolfreading Arctic since Day 3 but your reasoning has been a little scattered or meta-based, and I’d like if you could sum it up in one or two posts for the class

[Prophylaxis]

@Arctic

no one in this f5 has caught a wolf except for arguably you so i don’t understand why this is relevant
why are you confident that me and emilia are arguing to look unaligned rather than us just being unaligned? what makes it “look” like that rather than it actually being that?

both of you are spending significant time and energy this f5 going “no u” when doing that is generally pretty useless behavior in a game of mafia, because you’re not going to convince the other person that they’re a wolf

and emilia had zero progression on her about-face on you, she just started tunneling you at the start of day 3. plus, she’s not even attempting to case you or really convince others that she’s right

i’ve seen my fair share of “squeeze play” gambits over the years, and I think you and emilia are trying to do one rn so that the other will instantly be cleared going into f3

[Prophylaxis]

@Leafia

I’m honestly just about convinced that Proph is just a wolf here. Today makes absolutely no sense in worlds where you and Emilia are w/w and his posts seem designed to just make you look bad if you ask me.

why is your read on me completely dependent on your read on arctic? you said it yourself - you should be re-evaluating everyone completely in xylo, and I don’t understand why you think Arctic’s solving looks genuine but mine looks like an attempt to shade Arctic. I think day 1 vote count analysis really just solves the game for us here - windward tried to save her buddy emilia, and arctic pushed the willtaylor counterwagon to counteract the early windward wagon

this day makes a lot of sense in the world where Emilia/Arctic are w/w. they’re giving off the impression of slapfighting each other in the hopes that either a townie will misvote and they’ll instantly win, or they will bury the other in case they need to and then win in f3

[Prophylaxis]

@sulit

My team is Arctic/Leafia rn tbh

Lemme check something

why do you think leafia is a wolf? why do you think emilia is town?

@Leafia

No. The safest cross would be Proph/Sulit I think. I’m convinced that Proph is a wolf, but I’m not convinced that Emilia is one yet.

i’m not voting sulit, i don’t think

she has like zero reason to defend and clear me as a wolf and she could have very easily joined us all on marl instead of getting flak for defending him

[Emilia]

@Prophylaxis

are you able to do this for me

I forgor

[Prophylaxis]

@Prophylaxis

@Emilia, can you explain why you did this?

i still would like an answer to this as well (why emilia unvoted wisp and voted marl on d3)

[Prophylaxis]

you forgot your reasons why you’re wolfreading arctic?

[Emilia]

yes

[Emilia]

Wisp was getting lynched and it felt like a boring lynch so I wanted to spice it up.

[Prophylaxis]

@Emilia

yes

[Emilia]

I had many compelling arguments for him being wolf, but I can’t give them to you because I forgot them.