Warrior Cats FM [6/15] - Dark Forest wins!

[Marluxion]

the STRONGEST PART of a PR
IS NOT THE ACTION OF THE PR
It’s the fact they can confirm themselves as town by claiming
Laying COVER for the PR by fake claiming only risks KILLING The PR

almost never will fake claiming a PR actually work out in an open setup
@katze is proof of this
in their champs game a villager fake claimed vig to try to live and ended up outing katze as vig, resulting in both dying

[orangeandblack5]

“be the change you want to see in the world” is always solid advice

even if nobody actually thinks that seriously doesn’t mean you can’t realize it could potentially be an issue and start thinking about it more consciously when you post

[GGhana]

What do you mean

[Nuclear_Rehab]

The strength of being a vanilla townie is that you are a pawn who can die without much impact on the game.

Never get your town PR killed for your own life.

As someone who used to fake claim a ton, it’s always bad

[Arete]

@GGhana

seriously though

why am I so shit

this is a genuine question

a couple things I noticed this game (disclaimer that I didn’t read every single post)

• you got very bogged down in how you think town “should” play, or how you think you would play as town, without considering the fact that some people might disagree, or might do things that aren’t “objectively good play” as villager for other reasons. For instance, with your Pandas read, you thought there was no way he could possibly see Dove’s flavor as indicative of anyone’s alignment – many sites have clues in the flavor (also, I think his actual point was that counterclaiming the jailkeeper was suspicious). Similarly, you assumed that the only reason Pandas could have for not backreading the whole game was being wolf, even though the game had an estimated Discourse read time of something like 8 hours at that point.
• you post too much. I’m not going to say that hyperposting is inherently always evil, but you don’t need to make the same point fifteen times. Repeating it fifteen times isn’t going to help people to understand it.
• When you had a wolfread, you basically would just treat them as if they were 100 percent always lock wolf – sometimes correctly and sometimes incorrectly. This tends to harm the threadstate, + makes them more likely to start flailing even if they’re town. Drowning the thread in ‘THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY THIS COULD EVER COME FROM A VILLAGER’ doesn’t help anything.

[sulit]

homey cat

[Marluxion]

@Prophylaxis

@GGhana

Do you keep a notes doc when you play a game?

It’s been something I’ve been doing for a solid chunk of my mafia career, and I find that it helps me stay structured, allows me to spampost thoughts to myself if I’m having trouble solving, and compose posts better. Instead of spamposting thoughts into the game thread, maybe try doing it all in your notes doc and then refer back to it when you’re making larger posts?

Just a suggestion. Mostly just skimmed your posts so not sure how helpful this will be.

also @gghana for playing on MU there is a notepad functinon that keeps your notes as the game progresses specifically for stuff like this

it’s very handy

another alternative is keeping notes in your rolecard so long as you dont accidentally copypaste your whole rolecard when sharing notes

[orangeandblack5]

if you’re concerned people might take an issue with X part of your personality

it doesn’t hurt to think more about how to tone down X even if nobody takes a large issue with X

[orangeandblack5]

@Arete

Similarly, you assumed that the only reason Pandas could have for not backreading the whole game was being wolf, even though the game had an estimated Discourse read time of something like 8 hours at that point.

this

lmao

[GGhana]

@Arete

When you had a wolfread, you basically would just treat them as if they were 100 percent always lock wolf – sometimes correctly and sometimes incorrectly. This tends to harm the threadstate, + makes them more likely to start flailing even if they’re town. Drowning the thread in ‘THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY THIS COULD EVER COME FROM A VILLAGER’ doesn’t help anything.

If I’m gonna be honest this is just me over compensating

I never feel like my wolf reads have any basis in good evidence or that people will actually listen to them if I don’t push them constantly

[Nightingale]

MU:
Hydra Mash - wolf
Ice Cream Team - villa
Throne Mash II - villa
LoZ Mash - villa
JoATed v2 - villa
Champs Practice 1 - wolf
Coven’s Revenge - villa
Champs Qual 2 - villa
Homestuck Mash - villa

FoL:
GFM3 - villa
Morphogenetics - villa
EFoL 4 3/4 - villa
Shortnight 2 - villa
SFoL 65 - villa
Umineko 2 - villa
Return of the Darkness - villa
DitF - villa
Catgirl Shortfuse - villa
FoL Anni - villa
Warrior Cats - villa

ToS:
Oratorio Tangram - villa
Trust Fall - villa
Coven Rises - villa
Death Note Popcorn - villa

Misc:
knives alley - TCoD - villa
Hamilton - TCoD - villa
Duality - MC - villa
Avatar - Syndicate - villa

Record 26 / 2

[GGhana]

I think you’re kinda missing my point

the reason why I posted so much is because I got angry

My temper is the main issue here

[orangeandblack5]

the move there is to work on your explanations then tbh

or just try to emulate starv’s approach

not to scream “lockscum” at somebody until they roll over

[Chloe]

Will this site ever have a decent lylo

[Nuclear_Rehab]

Don’t care about being so right, or care about winning.

Just say what you see, and be okay with being wrong.

[GGhana]

@orangeandblack5

or just try to emulate starv’s approach

What is this

[orangeandblack5]

okay

and my point is “take a moment before posting to think about how what you’re posting will come off”

which is relevant so what’s your objection lol

[sulit]

when you roll town 17 times in a row

[EliThePsycho]

relatable

[orangeandblack5]

“don’t explain anything but also just tell people you won’t explain anything”