but then again
Wazza's ISO
so
i went through wazzaās iso trying to determine if her posts come from a wolf
iā¦ guess they could? but they honestly donāt read that way
gonna look through nightās iso next
i donāt particularly think their recent posts looked wolfy and i guess the focus has been on their SoD2 posts so ill start there first
Night's ISO
where did this read go lol
hey Night, do you still think the LW couldāve been one of the jk claims? iām guessing not, since you just sort of agreed with the poe that ironically included you in it
oh the gghana lw read disappeared here
ā¦I guess this is what night is looking at now?
whats the obsession with quickhammering in this game lol
she flipped v so lol
trying to figure out if any of this comes from a wolf who agenda pushes marshal
iām undecided
the PKR thing popping up in both wazzaās and nightās ISOs makes me wary though (Iām really sorry PKR)
look at the game now lol
does night say this as a wolf?
what kind of wolf says this?
again with the pkr read
maybe ill look at his iso next, idk
night has a point actually
this also weirdly doesnāt sound like a wolfy post
this was in reply to emilia saying sulit could be w if marshal flipped v
which is why i think emilia is clear lol, setting up a push on someone who will be immediately night killed is not actually wolfy
unless sheās lw in which case lol
this post is meh but not super incriminating i guess
wonder if they ever did
right i forgot about sheeping marshalās reads lol
on second thought pointing out that marshal could be wolfy because sheās a strong wolf is actually a bad argument because sheās also a strong villager
on the other hand, parts of nightās evaluation do seem pretty reasonable
but i guess a lot of cases against marshal actually did look somewhat reasonable so idk what that says
if night flips lw iāll laugh though
and also cry
because then i donāt know what to do with nuclear and pandas
or pkr
i guess this was in reference to marshal
well heās doing it now
and he does it as either alignment i guess? iāve definitely seen him do it as town at least
so if night is a wolf and knew marshal was v
it would mean they were fine with not yeeting minslot which is now pandas, i.e. they never planned to push the slot
but right now they just agreed with the current poe being built and has even said something about pandas doing nothing towny iirc
would w!night flip their read on w!pandas like that, knowing that both of them were very likely to get yeeted? does that work for distancing at all or is it just suicidal as a wolf team?
lol
honestly i dont have much else to comment in nightās iso so i give up commenting here
i think most stuff today i was here for
so yeah, SoD2 looks kinda bleh for Night, i see what people are saying
but there are likeā¦ a couple posts i see that look kinda unwolfy
and i donāt think wazzaās ISO looks super wolfy so yeah, iām really inconclusive
i was hoping iād get a more solid read on night based on how she handles other peopleās slots but i donāt think she really handled anyoneās slot super badly other than focusing on emilia and marshal for most of D2, but that seems to be where the thread focus was so it was at least relevant
back to marshalās post, if i sheeped some of her reads iād be more willing to sheep her godread villagers than the rest of the reads since i think she had a fairly high degree of confidence there
and i agree on gghana alreadyā¦ aelinslot is meā¦ emilia i also agree onā¦ sulit flipped town lolā¦ and i guess i should trust that eli is town if both marshal and gghana say eli is town
i think i trust gghanaās read on arctic and i also trust my own read on him, which is good enough for me. the day he bamboozles me is the day iāll stop trusting my read on him lol.
whysperās straight poe and very likely wolf so whatever
night is, well, probably wolf from spew and probably wolf for agenda pushing and now that i think about it, wazza also consensus pushed leafia and advocated for a hammer. compare that to night consensus pushing marshal and advocating for a hammer. i donāt think the way they asked for hammering was wolfy because the read was fairly stagnant, but itās also not what iād call towny considering it was consensus and very easy to push both of those slots without taking any blame for it. they werent the strongest pushers, either, but like a decent support pusher. a good place for a wolf to be, if the pushes were led by town.
nuclear lol, well, sheās still poe i guess and i felt like she was trying to pocket me when she asked me to step into the discussion and save her so that was +scumpoints
(if sheās town, then iām sorry, iām just very paranoid of getting pocketed so i tend to jump toward paranoia reads faster than most)
although tbf the only person even semi-defending her was me, meaning sheās somewhat alone in the thread which would be more indicative of either town or lw
i donāt want pkr in todayās poe, i think his frustration in the thread actually was genuine. iām not always very good at interpreting emotions and i often ignore them, but the way in which he did it didnāt seem like it was motivated by trying to save himself or simply to appeal to those of us who threw him squarely into our poe. it sounded more like he was legitimately tired of being wrongly voted (although this is only gonna work so many times tbh) and he also wanted to improve his towngame to increase the rate at which heās townread in subsequent games. yeah, ok, maybe a wolf would try that trick too to increase how townread they are in the current game, but i think he wouldāve just left it at the outburst and called it a day because that was already enough to start changing opinions on his slot from what i could see. no need to overdo it and end up looking wolfy because of LAMIST reasons.
the t!PKR/w!Whysper take fits nicely with marshalās ānot both packā take
iām super tired and didnāt really want to have to do this but i said iād iso people so i isoād one of the most relevant slots and here i am
admittedly i got distracted halfway through nightās iso and went to wash dishes and make dinner because i suddenly remembered i wanted dinner and also noticed that the sink was full of dishes
look at me, iām adulting!
yeah tbh if this isnāt the solve we just fucking lose the game lol
realistic is realistic but statistically iām leaning toward the worst case scenario because imagine netting more than 2 wolves in a poe on D3 lol
we just have to actually yeet the 2 wolves in the poe first, in that case, so we can buy time to reevaluate
i honestly think whysper should go first, then night
even if night is the RBer do we really need to yeet them? most town roles are vanilla and our jailkeeper is already dead so like
the chances of a wolf roleblocker hitting their own lw are equally as high as hitting the town cop
i donāt really think we need rber out until the lw joins the pack
which, yeah, they couldāve, but iām betting (and really hoping) they did not
those are nice ass probabilities
and theyāre hell in such a small game lol
yeah itās only useful for wolves because thereās a pretty high chance the neighborizer accidentally hits a wolf and either gets pocketed or misguided
thatās what Marl said about it and ftr it makes sense
speaking of Marl, did any of you go back and check his reads? cause i isoād him to get a comprehensive view of his reads when i replaced in and thatās why i listed those specific 3 people for myself to read. it wasnāt like i was super sure they were scum; it was more that marl said if leafia flipped town then at least one of those three might be a wolf, so i was looking at them.
same but iām just wondering where all the resistance is
cause i see resistance from only half the people actually in the poe (night just agreed with it and pandas didnāt really give an opinion but has been pushing nuclear for a while now) and nobody outside of the poe is resisting it except for PKR on Night, and while i think itās noteworthy itās not objectively wolfy even if Night flips wolf.
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what the fuck i went through two wholeass isoās and spoilered them and that still became a wallpost
iām both impressed and disgusted with myself and i want to go to sleep soon lol
also iām sorry if anyone finds my recent lack of capitalization or punctuation offputting in these longass paragraphs
the left shift key doesnāt work anymore and half the time iām too lazy to use the right shift key so i justā¦ donāt
if anyone has final questions for me before i hit the hay, now would be the time to ask them btw
iām not exactly sure what time EoD is but i have work all day and then iām out for dinner with colleagues so thereās a high chance i wonāt make it back into the thread before EoD unless itās like super late at night in my timezone, and if someone hammers thereās no way iād be back in time
night to me is wolfing mostly because her day 2 seemed as focused as possible on looking good in the event marshal flipped. Which explains the weird half baked āIām not scumreading her for the openwolfing instead because of this x reasonā which to me feels like she was trying not to look like pushing agenda but instead verged on TMIng marshal town
now marshal dying and pushing on her ruined that plan so I canāt comment
that makes sense
what about the post where she said she felt like people were gaslighting her into thinking her own reads were bad, though?
she did literally say sheād look bad regardless of marshalās flip, though
not that self-awareness means anything there because it already was objectively true
but she didnāt deny that it would happen
no real questions here
Iām really busy with school so Iāve been kinda low efforting today
i just mean that i feel like a wolf would simply go āno, thatās wrongā if they wanted to stick to their agenda
or else go āok maybe youāre rightā
and not go āhey iām being gaslit and i feel weird about itā
it justā¦ is a weird thing to say as a wolf imo and itās the single post that gives me the most hesitation on her slot tbh
even speccing the game thread at that point i thought marshal should be killed with fire until like the last couple posts she made tbh
donāt think i had much opinion on emilia though until i isoād her after i replaced in
fwiw when I made the lw!GGhana read at SoD2 the only things i read were GGhana claiming JK and Leafia flipping JK
btw Night, since youāre here
what made you say this? was it in regards to your marshal read, your emilia read, or something else?
in a good way