Watch Your Mouth!: Sophomore Year (3/17) - Day 5 - Planters (Mafia) Win!

[katze]

i wanna talk to non-vulgard people more before the day ends

so casting vote is kinda cringe unless you don’t think you’ll be back in thread by EoD then please vote noelim so we don’t get memed by woofs

[katze]

@Vulgard

random question

how deep in the “appel V never retract” world are you

like if you die tonight and appel is a W do i get to fully blame you :^)

[katze]

this is me saying i don’t think their D1 is outside the realm of W/W with derps

[Leafia]

We won’t mess it up Vulgard. Derps will be the yeet tomorrow regardless of whether or not you survive. I can promise you that.

[Appelsiini]

@katze

ive already explained 2/3 of these points if you read closely and the third one is just repeating another point so

I didn’t see them when I was reading the thread. Either they weren’t there or you only explained them briefly, which would be bad either way.

@katze

what if its just luxyfia/appel lmao

Going through your ISO right now and the post si started from is you doubting your townreads, again. Bleh. I’m requesting you to actually make townreads during this game instead of following the person you’ve shaded nonstop (Vulgard)

@katze

is appel 100% clear

no

Shading townreads… again

@katze

scum kill somebody, and then we no longer have to tinfoil them at all

there is nobody im confident enough to 100% lockclear

@katze

generally at mylo you’ll sleep unless you have a clear (since the clear is 100% going to die during the night)

but we don’t have any clears

i don’t know who will be nightkilled

i can only speculate

This is actually one of my theories right now. Vulgard is obviously a good player and has a high thread presence, so I think Vul will be the NK tonight. I might have stated my reads and I intend to follow them, but I’ve barely had any presence during this game. By not having Vul as an obvtown, you can excuse having him die because you weren’t sure about anything. And that’s a bad thing even by itself.

@katze

@Vulgard

i have less confidence in reading you independently

okay but surely by now im volume clear i’m really not that hard to read

Is this what you’re basing your “I won’t clear Vul” -read on? What is your current read on Vul?

@katze

if you are town i think the wolfteam can be narrowed down quite a bit just by that fact alone

…Too many tinfoils are coming to my mind right now.
I’m a generally townread person, but Kat is also inconfident in his read on me. That could have something to do with the fact that I’m clearing Vul.

@katze

there’s just something bothering me

i feel like you’re being too narrow minded

…Is this after or before Vul literally wrote down all his opinions about the possible wolfteams? @katze elaborate on this.

[katze]

i keep forgetting that you don’t understand my thought process appel

[Appelsiini]

Okay so
I kinda lied when I said i couldn’t be bothered to ISO you, but rather I wanted to see how you would answer. Now to analyze this

[Appelsiini]

Okay, cool. Could you explain it to me then?

[katze]

@Appelsiini

I didn’t see them when I was reading the thread. Either they weren’t there or you only explained them briefly, which would be bad either way.

@katze

if you read closely

@Appelsiini

I’m requesting you to actually make townreads during this game instead of following the person you’ve shaded nonstop (Vulgard)

i have townreads

@Appelsiini

@katze

is appel 100% clear

no

Shading townreads… again

you are objectively not 100% clear

i do not see a greencheck on you

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everything else in your post can be explained by reading my iso and/or understanding me more

i’ll leave it at that

[katze]

my posts are more than just pixels on your screen

every thought i have is meticulously written, and

orange, if you think that’s alignment indicative of me

well, that’d be your second mistake

[katze]

anyway

you say i

am shading vulgard

yes, i am

all is more than it seems

[Appelsiini]

@katze

i have townreads

The problem is that you’re spending your time shading them.

@katze

you are objectively not 100% clear

i do not see a greencheck on you

THIS SETUP HAS NO COPS AAAA

It’ll take an eternity until I learn to understand you, zzz

[katze]

@Appelsiini

The problem is that you’re spending your time shading them.

just…

orange

you should know that i am not nearly that one dimensional; even as a villager i am confusing

@Appelsiini

It’ll take an eternity until I learn to understand you, zzz

catze is not that obvious in their gameplan

and you are

treating me like i am just another player

[katze]

what am i gaining by being like this

i feel like its actively working against my wincondition

why am i like this

i don’t know

appel come back lets talk turkey

[Appelsiini]

I’m back

Combined with the post I saw after I wrote that long post, I guess I know what you’re getting at.

I can imagine a few things you would gain from this. But I want you to answer a few questions first.

1. Is this out of your wolfrange?

2. What are you trying to achieve by making it obvious to anyone who reads your posts? What you have been saying has had the goal of “making people aware this is what I’m doing” rather than actually achieving the thing.

[katze]

@Appelsiini

• Is this out of your wolfrange?
• What are you trying to achieve by making it obvious to anyone who reads your posts? What you have been saying has had the goal of “making people aware this is what I’m doing” rather than actually achieving the thing.

1. this specifically? no
   other things i’ve done this game i think might be, but out of stubbornness i won’t point them out :^)

@katze

all is more than it seems

[katze]

okay

i think ive leveled myself to a V!Whysper world

if im wrong i want alice to personally come to my house and smack me

[katze]

im gonna dive a bit more into wild west and maybe sfol63/fol30 before i lock this in

i should probably actually read why alice scumread her

i dont think i ever did that i think i only saw that it was like, a very strong read

mrrr

[katze]

derps and luxyfia feels too easy

but i also think every time ive actually let the difficulty of a solve influence how much i believed said solve it hasn’t exactly went well

me only playing for a small portion of this game probably influences that too because i havent gotten to watch you nerds do bad yeets like marshal

lol imagine MLing marshal

id say im sorry but im only sorry if we lose, marshal

[katze]

@Alice

Also I’m fairly uneasy on how Whysper has spent much of the game casting doubt and trying to negate other peoples’ townreads rather than solve slots for herself tbh.

@Alice

@Luxy

More performative questioning.

Can’t disagree here.

@Luxy

Ditto

Looks more to me that Whysper’s kind of trying to negate the early townreads by casting Esquiddy as a more experienced player that the look, tbh.

@Luxy

Why are we looking for deepwolves this early on?

@Luxy

Doubt on the towncore, doubt on the towncore

I loathe those posts, but unfortunately people here have been casting doubt on towncores a lot non-stop lately.

What settles my wolfread here is that the language that Whysper is using here as in “I think it is excellent to question the mutual town-coring between Marshal and Alice” makes it look like she’s not trying to solve and more like she’s trying to influence an agenda. Also she doesn’t really explain why this towncoring is bad.

@Alice

@Luxy

She seemed out of her depth at the start of Wild West, whereas in SFoL 63 she still got right into attempting to sort people’s alignments whereas here, shes spent her time throwing doubt on townreads and not really sorting alignments at all

Literally this.

I re-read SFoL63 and she’s more decisive and direct there while here she’s less proactive and more indirect and doesn’t really have the broad of a scope.

not relevant to this specific alice iso dive but lol

@Alice

Instructions unclear, I shot a towncore member who flipped V because of a gut read and an OMGUS.

@Alice

@Moleland

Do not shoot Jane. Please shoot whoever doesn’t get lynched in Eli/Whysper so we have a better idea of what today’s wagons look like.

@Alice

Again, I re-iterate. If you’re the actual HS, shoot Whysper, not Jane.

@Alice

Frankly I’m going to give time to Whysper, though.

At least they’re trying to make an effort here while Mole’s just completely lethargic.

probably enough for me to get an idea of what she saw