but it’d be funny to quickhammer you while writing other posts
I am giving this more consideration. Especially since you seem willing to be 1st or 2nd in the lynch order. If you were wolf, that would pretty much destroy the chance for you to win.
You will have to quote it if you want me to reply to it. I remember some of it, but I don’t remember everything
It was 11 AM for me
I agree and I don’t think Katze should ever be considered locktown right now. Katze is not someone like Seth who can easily be read for tone.
This takes me back to someone like Marshal because this seems like something a better player would coach a newb wolf to do
otecount
| Accused | Voted by | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| Marshal | Whysper, Derps, Vulgard | 3/5 |
| Katze | Marshal | 1/5 |
| Not voting | Gorta, Luxy, Troc, Appel, Katze | 5 |
Lemme know if i hecked up
Day ends 2020-09-13T16:45:00Z unless majority is reached earlier.
If you wanna make our lives easier, please ping @DatBird with future votes ^^
Disclaimer: I was initially going to quote every single PK post for this, but because I find writing insanely long wallposts mentally draining and frankly don’t expect anyone to actually read that, I backspaced that entire section. It was probably unnecessary, anyway.
How ETP/PK was in their prior scumgames
JOAT^2 (this is a bad setup btw Arete): He doesn’t really interact with his teammate, Intensify, very often. This is something you can fact check if you wish! He also shades villagers constantly, while only very lightly shading Intensify. He does shade the previous holder of Intensifys slot, but in #3561 notably tries to find an excuse to take Intensify out of his PoE.
SFoL63: Avoids starting interactions with his teammates, Alice and Insanity. Responds to them when asked to. Awkwardly brings up the wagon on Insanity in #2007, soft defends them in #2023, and avoids voting them. I don’t think they actually start a single interaction with any of their teammates in this game, but ISOing 10k+ post games on this site is a fucking pain.
The conclusion I draw here is that he generally avoids interacting with teammates, especially initiating said interactions. The interactions are usually pretty awkward as well, but I think that’s just their tone as a wolf. I do encourage factchecking here, but I think this conclusion doesn’t really need factchecking.
What I am looking for with regards to ETP spew:
- Who are they interacting (and initating interactions with) with the most/least
- Who they are shading
- Other general notable things, nonspecific to ETP
Who was ETP interacting with the most?
ETP replied to SirDerpsAlot 11 times, which is a large outlier. The person ETP has replied to most (that is still alive) is an_gorta_pratai, who ETP only replied to three times.
This number is likely somewhat inflated as there was a bit of a conversation between the two.
Eli/Derps interactions
What I find notable here is that ETP initiates conversation with SirDerpsAlot here twice, once in #77 and again in #147.
I find this to be a somewhat good look for SirDerpsAlot, especially because ETP actualy initiates conversation. I also think that Derps’ posts here are a good look for him, as I feel that #147 is somewhat unlikely to be a W/W post individually and the immoral jokes feel a bit brazen compared to ETPs past wolf games.
Who was ETP interacting with but not the most or least?
In the between area, we have five players.
an_gorta_pratai (3)
I think #266 and #267 aren’t very W/W-like, although I may be biased because I already townread gorta.
Marshal (1.5)
This is about the only real read ETP made at all on D1, and it’s super weak and is just an effort read. Feels like a “slap a townread on your partner” kind of read, but again, may be a bit biased here.
PokemonKidVulgard (1)
I don’t think this interaction really means anything for PK-Vs alignment, since Elis post is about someone else. I think it’s… slightly a point in Marshals favor?
Trochilidae (1)
Kind of an initiation post from ETP? Small point in her favor, but nothing very notable as I feel like I have to stretch the meaning of this post to do that.
Whysper (1)
Don’t think this post has much for Whyspers alignment, unfortunately.
Who was ETP interacting with the least?
From what I’ve seen, there are two alive players who are joint tied for a solid zero. If you’ve been reading along, you can probably guess who, but place your bets now before opening the following dropdown.
I think this is notable, but not condemning for both players.
Conclusions:
Spew looks good for: Derps
Spew looks decent for: gorta, maybe Troci
Don’t think spew goes far in any direction for: PKR, Whysper
No interactions at all: Luxy, Appelsiini
Has a wolfy sounding interaction and a weird interaction with: Marshal
honestly disappointed that i feel like my conclusions are somewhat confirmation biased (mainly in marshals case) but i also think that there’s a decent enough resource in the above post for people to make their own conclusions from
good thing it’s fucking 3am when i started writing this before midnight
there’s two voices in my head
one is telling me this is w/w and one is telling me this is a pocket attempt
i thought it’d be more useful when i spent an hour reading sfol63/joat^2 and realized their interactions with their teammates there were super awkward
and then realized halfway through that post that they were just super awkward this game overall
am i awake enough to write the second wallpost i had planned
fuck if i know
find out in a few hours
sidenote: insanity ML is atrocious they were blatantly not W/W with ETP
which makes me think there’s probably a wolf on that wagon
I think that it’s in no way out of your wolfrange
I honestly think it’s comfortably inside of there, very little actual analysis is given, you provide information and you give a pre-thought conclusion based off of past games.
I think that whole post was super super uneccesary and could be condensed into 1-2 paragraphs.
“One thing i’ve noticed is that eli doesn’t interact with / initiate conversation with wolfbuddies that much. Looking through his ISO he’s interacted with derps 11 times, gorta 3 times, etc etc. A few things to note is how the eli/marshal interaction feels w/w”
obviously more explained but
I don’t think you needed that whole wall to communicate the point
definitely seems flash > function
It honestly communicates the basic point of “eli doesn’t interact / initiate with partners much, and he did x with these players, with a few notable interactions” but in far far too many characters.
I unfortunately think that it’s not totally outside your v range to make a flashy long wallpost to communicate a basic point.
tl;dr, wallpost communicates a basic point and lays it out, which is fine, but which uses faaaaaar too many words and is not clearing at all and does not provide much analysis itself.
git gud kat
wrt my ranges:
theyre the same thing i am LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to read
i think im actually out of my wolf range this game for a reason that nobody would know because nobody knows my wolfrange
also im prob too tired to do the readlist wallpost i wanted to do so ill prob just scrap up a non-wallpost one in a bit
nobody reads wallposts anyways i just like writing them because it makes me feel superior