Watch Your Mouth!: Sophomore Year (3/17) - Day 5 - Planters (Mafia) Win!

[Marshal]

if it were at the beginning would it have been better

again, serious question

[katze]

yes

[Marshal]

why

what about the order would change how genuine it was

[katze]

Summary

@Marshal

Ok so basically

I subbed into a mafiauniverse game called Modified Cop13’er. I was lost wolf, but that’s not relevant to my argument as my posts were wolf-motivated.

I thought I could get townread by lamist-ly talking about how I would be obvious town and how I wanted to be n1 SPKd. I didn’t make many read but pretended I would.

I’ll quote some posts I made there

Summary

depending on if the cop and their n0 is in or out of that group, that’s 4-6 town found easily

only 7-9 people even left

You will know that i’m villager by the end of the day

I will grant a beautiful case on each of the other 3 as well, which will solicit tears from it’s beauty and force you to agree.

i’ve already granted about a 50% chance of lynching a wolf d1

you are welcome

I don’t really care about this whole slip thing

but

it gives me a foothold in thread and will allow me to segue into the 3 wallposts I will make which will be the most powerful words written in Forum Mafia history

and every post I make is proof of my alignment and so by the time they are written I will have unequivocally proven the alignments of 4 villagers and will solve from there
cases may or may not come after I do work for my permit

I don't really care about this whole slip thing

but

it gives me a foothold in thread and will allow me to segue into the 3 wallposts I will make which will be the most powerful words written in Forum Mafia history

and every post I make is proof of my alignment and so by the time they are written I will have unequivocally proven the of 4 villagers and will solve from there≈

you will see soon enough
I have to do my drivers ed stuff first before any of that

but it is simply an excuse for giving me the time to emotionally prepare for the words I am about to write

people should figure out that i’m not wolf soon enough and from there realize that my reads cannot and are not tainted, only possibly influenced by the chance that I am cop

I’m doing this grandiose stream of uber-lamistity because I want to break my streak of offsite mislynches

I can say things i’ve done and have been doing that are trying to grab towncred and yet you all will still understand I am town

The above sentence was an attempt at grabbing towncred

and saying that is also an attempt to grab towncred

I could go on infinitely, and have the most conceivable towncred a man could possibly have, but that is no fun

and saying that is, yes, an attempt for towncred

I am not good at forum mafia at villager at least

my reads aren’t generally good, and usually it’s my gut that can identify 3-4 town and then fail me the rest of the game

so I will, and am, doing the 1 thing I know best, which is showing my alignment through my posts

the reason I so often get mislynched outside of FoL is because I play so uncomfortably, and am comfortable in FoL so I’ve never been mislynched in what has to be 30+ villager games

so I am using the full force of my personality to ensure that does not happen

this will be my last post of this type, because I have to do work and It helps nobody but myself

I will instead more subtly insist that I am town and probably eat the n1 nightkill, happy to do so, because it will mean I turned a 0-poster slot into the biggest threat to the mafia there is.

ok

i’m off for real

It is my primary goal to get SPK’d

vote me for death 2020

you are hard to read

and i’m doing a wall on my townreads/core first

as for why?

I just wanna do well this game I guess. Power-village this, use my strengths to the best of my ability so that I can actually be a good FM player

maybe even get killed n1

that is my dream

you present a fair criticism

that i’m all bark and no bite

however

patience is a virtue, and patience will be rewarded

I ask for say… 10 hours

also my LAMIST $%#!posting apparently can’t get me locktowned here

unfortunate that it sticks me in wolfleans when my entire plan was to powervillage this and force wolves to kill me n1 as I was town and they realize that the 2 wolves they know exist are not in my towncore

I guess i’ll have to take a more rational approach, i’m down, just slightly dissapointed at the turn this took and the fall of the grand Marshal

this honestly happens far too often

I stopped after getting haaard called out on my bullshit. The post… well it might be familiar to you if you’ve read, like, 10 posts up.

These are your only two posts of consequence. The rest are just just blowing smoke.

Your read, when reduced to shorter lengths, is that you largely believe they’re genuine in their meta read and that you agree with their approach. The issue there, though, is that an approach is just that: hownyou choose to play the game.

The points you make are largely nai, so even if they’re correct, it’s surely for the wrong reasons.

You could all them a villager for them pushing haze for meta read and then walking it back when they realized the alignment of haze was actually flipped. Would a wolf make this mistake? Maybe, but this argument certainly holds more weight than the airballs that are your paragraphs detailing benignities.

Further, as you’ve said, your reads are consensus and basic. They’re easy. Anyone in this game could make them.

It seems you made 3 reads in the first 265~ posts. We are on ~388 and I am seeing nothing different, nothing new. You have interactions with derps and Michelle, but no real reads made on them.

You have 0 wolves being presented.

You say you want to be SPKd, but claim to be bad. You claim you want to present a firm villa core, but waste your time blowing yourself up.

You present these conflicting ideas which further conflict with your actions. I can only conclude that you are a wolf.

my response?

you present a fair criticism

that i’m all bark and no bite

however

patience is a virtue, and patience will be rewarded

I ask for say… 10 hours

now you have some context… let’s do some side by side comparisons.

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Me, in a wolfgame:

I will instead more subtly insist that I am town and probably eat the n1 nightkill, happy to do so, because it will mean I turned a 0-poster slot into the biggest threat to the mafia there is.

katze:

@katze

i will post i am not an inactive slot

i will obvtown this slot and then i will be SPKed

next up

me, in that wolfgame:

once i've presented my towncore, i'll get to work refining the other slots

But I want to at least form a nice villager core before wolves lynch me out of fear or kill me out of fear

katze:

@katze

i fully intend on taking as much control of this game as possible so the wolves fearkill me tonight just because it’d be gamer of me

anotha one

me, in said wolfgame:

It is my primary goal to get SPK’d

vote me for death 2020

katze:

@katze

don’t care

im getting SPKed tonight

and finally, remember the wall calling me out I posted and my response to it? Well here is kat’s response and mine, side by side:

you present a fair criticism

that i’m all bark and no bite

however

patience is a virtue, and patience will be rewarded

I ask for say… 10 hours

If I have not formed a solid towncore with even more solid reasons by then, and near-unequivocally proven my alignment in doing so, then feel free to remove me from the game

I’ll admit i’ve been a little sidetracked and fluffy, may be a culture clash (on my homesite we will have games often reach 10000+ posts) but trust me

when i’m focused, you will see

Maybe i’ll even find a wolf or two. Towncores are more my strength however, and i’ve never particularly excelled at signaling out individual wolves.

@katze

@Marshal

You say you want to be SPKd, but do nothing.

the “doing nothing” part will be addressed later

i will be a beacon of villagery energy by the end of day

probably

but rome wasn’t built in a day so you get to wait

@katze

actually this site is too scared of reading me i don’t think i’ll ever be seen as a beacon of villagery energy on this site unless i reveal as an innocent child and even then

i will do things

things

will be did

unless i lose all motivation to do things

given EoD will be while im asleep this is more likely than i’d like for it to be but i think things will still be done

I could go on but
I think i’ve said enough

this type of lamist is wolf-motivated, I know from firsthand experience

there’s more that i’ve realized, mostly the fact that kat has performatively talked about making and doing ISOs than acutally doing them and giving reads to the thread,

Tl;Dr:

kat is talking about being SPK’d n1 and being obvious town in a performative way while not actually doing anything to hurt the wolves, the only way they are “obvious town”-ing themselves is by repeatedly talking about it. Kat has talked about doing ISOs more than actually doing them, and has done nothing else of worth or note.

I’m not saying kat is scum for doing the same schtick I did in a wolfgame. I’m saying I think kat is probably wolf for what they say and their intentions not lining up, being perfomrative and lamisty in a wolfy way, and I could specifically identify it because it’s exactly what happened to me

BOOOOM

BYE

KAT

look how long this fucking post is

this is assuming you don’t even open the drop downs, the disclaimer that basically makes 90% of this post invalid is… at the end

so like, somebody reads all of this, they think “wow, katze is acting like marshal did as awolf that one time, how wolfy!” and then you’re like “hehe thats not why katze is wolfy though!” after you spent an entire semester teaching the class why that was wolfy of me

[Marshal]

@Marshal

I could go on but
I think i’ve said enough

this type of lamist is wolf-motivated, I know from firsthand experience

there’s more that i’ve realized, mostly the fact that kat has performatively talked about making and doing ISOs than acutally doing them and giving reads to the thread,

Tl;Dr:

kat is talking about being SPK’d n1 and being obvious town in a performative way while not actually doing anything to hurt the wolves, the only way they are “obvious town”-ing themselves is by repeatedly talking about it. Kat has talked about doing ISOs more than actually doing them, and has done nothing else of worth or note.

I’m not saying kat is scum for doing the same schtick I did in a wolfgame. I’m saying I think kat is probably wolf for what they say and their intentions not lining up, being perfomrative and lamisty in a wolfy way, and I could specifically identify it because it’s exactly what happened to me

BOOOOM

BYE

KAT

this is 60% of the content

the reason the rest was long was because it was quoted posts

does realizing this change your read?

[katze]

i’m aware it was quotes

the part i colored red is when a majority of the above content is invalidated

which i still in the last paragraph

[Appelsiini]

@katze

think you’re too quick to the locktown trigger which is

No you’re too slow to locktown him
Do you have anything else to say

[katze]

@Appelsiini

Do you have anything else to say

about what

i’ve been talking

are you not listening

is this thing on

[Marshal]

but it doesn’t mention the past game at all, it only talks about why I think it’s wolfy here.

Your reasoning is dumb but sadly not entirely incriminating. I’m abandoning this line of questioning and giving you +2 suspicious points and letting other people determine the suspiciousness of it

[katze]

@Marshal

but it doesn’t mention the past game at all, it only talks about why I think it’s wolfy here.

when you present a case to the detective, do you tell them who was murdered first or give them the evidence first

[Appelsiini]

…No I mean, about my read

Okay this was stupid
I do believe I got some info though, I barely skimmed the thread

[katze]

your wallpost is giving me all of the meat and then throwing the bones at me and calling me cringe

the meat isn’t even attached to the fucking bones marshal i want my god damn baby back ribs

[katze]

@Appelsiini

…No I mean, about my read

Okay this was stupid
I do believe I got some info though, I barely skimmed the thread

you’re reading someone with a glaring meta as locktown before i think they’ve shone bright enough to have their alignment be obvious

don’t think there’s much more to say about it?

[Marshal]

I think kat is, in general, lacking a lot of actual analysis

the readslist iso would be cool but thery aren’t gonna do it (and thats fine)

eli thing was containing little analysis

I think your read on me is very underwhelming and it’s your biggest read

very surface level reads for the rest of them.

but It’s very possible I’ve been incorrectly deathtunneling, I know i’ve had to have done it like at least 3 times this game or smn

so I give you free reign

analyse the game kat, show us the wolves from your heart, or perish, looser.

[katze]

if i don’t get SPKed tonight i’ll probably dunk on the other wolf after we yeet one today

[Marshal]

this posts sucks, i’ve said enough, if you are villa godspeed

but please, for the love of god, actually catch wolves instead of spending 999 posts talking about how you will

[katze]

@Marshal

this posts sucks

yes that is the intent

you have passed the reactiontest

you are now in the towncore

[Appelsiini]

@Appelsiini

VUL IS LOCKTOWN NEVER RE-EVALUATE AAAAAA

In the same post as:

@Appelsiini

I’m focusing on the wrong things too much when reading a person. Such as progression and the way they handle things, rather than “I can get behind this thought process so this must be town ayaya”
I really need to up my game if I want to improve as a player

(Messed up the wording here actually but)

[katze]

i thought the disclaimer was either a joke or “this applies to everybody but vulgard”

i think the AAAAA did it for me

[katze]

@Marshal

I think kat is, in general, lacking a lot of actual analysis

do you think this is wolfy or towny for me specifically