because this game has been a rollercoaster
Welp.
Here we are.
This has been a crazy game. From being forced in on a really busy day to D1 of a team game more than twice the size I had been anticipating, to going from near mechlock to probably making the wrong vote here, it’s been a roller coaster that I’ll probably remember for the rest of my life.
I’d like to start by thanking my team. Most of us, me included, were not super jazzed about the game growing this huge, and it’s been a huge drain on all of us over the past week. As the person who kinda pulled you all into this one, I can’t thank you all enough for joining me through the highs and the lows. It’s been a pleasure playing with you all.
Next, of course, massive shoutout to DatBird. Not all of you may know this, but this game actually had to be changed during signups, and I’ve kinda been pestering him about it the entire time. I can’t imagine how much larger the workload gets when trying to host a game this controversial, and I really cannot thank him enough for taking the time to make games like this possible. Watch Your Mouth really is a unique breed, and without him this game wouldn’t have been possible.
To the three wolves and the spec chat heroes - y’all played amazingly either way. It has been incredibly difficult to sort through which lock-villager slot is less locked, and whichever one of you is the scum really had some incredibly well-thought-out plays over the course of a long and grueling game. This has been far and away the hardest MyLo/LyLo situation of my entire life, because at no point has there been an answer that feels correct. There’s always a missing piece, and whichever of you managed to set that up should be proud of that much at least, even if I think Vulgard calling himself “so insanely fucking terrible and godawful, selfish and trash tier” as a wolf bussing his entire team would be accurate. 
To the rest of the game - it’s been a toughie. Thanks for sticking it out, especially everyone in the PoE that got burned through in the middle third of the game. I’m sure each of you has a good chunk of the players thinking your death was by far the worst in the entire game, and ultimately the fact that we’re standing here with these two potential scum means that you really shouldn’t feel bad about going out when you did. Thanks for being there and putting your best foot forward, sorry everyone determined it wasn’t enough, and I hope to see y’all when Watch Your Mouth hopefully returns some day.
It’s been a hell of a ride.
With all that out of the way, I think it’s time we get to handing out my verdict.
And, I suppose I should mention, ultimately the vote is in my hands, and if I place it wrong here than the scum victory is entirely on my back. My team has had a say in it, obviously, but at the end of the day I’m responsible if we lose, and given Marshal’s record thus far, it’ll be me tarnishing that record if I fail here. I solely take responsibility for the vote I have chosen to lay down.
For Whysper - what a game. Sure, your VCA might have been just awful for like the entire game, but things like Derps outing to save a villager and redirect people back onto a scum wagon are plays so far out there that it has been incredibly hard to justify a vote on you. You did an extremely commendable job of ensuring that the world where you are scum makes less logical sense than the one where you are not, and from a slot that was in it for the memes, that deserves a lot of respect.
For spec chat heroes - although I maintain that I will be very pissed if you win off the back of hardbussing literally all of your PRs day 1 and most of the rest of your team around the same time, that does not in any way take away from the rest of your gameplay. Your posting has been incredible, the dedication to faking a town mindset has been next-level, and the enthusiasm in the face of near-impossible odds (even if you may have aided in the creation of those odds) has been such that it has been incredibly hard to call you out as scum.
Either of you have had what I find hard to believe isn’t the scum game of your life, and even if we pick correctly here, I’d be remiss not to give you a huge pat on the back for a detailed effort over weeks with less cracks than basically the entire town.
I’m honestly sorry this day has taken so much of your time, especially the one I cause to lose here, and ultimately I can only feel justified about it because I was sacrificing just as much to be here too. You guys may not know this, but I was in and out of short naps literally all last night waiting to see if Appelsiini would ever put Whysper at L-1 so we could get our little show on the road and inject some spice into an otherwise dead day, so I definitely feel just as drained as I’m sure each of you do. Sorry to run you both for a loop, but we wanted to be sure we had as much to pull from as possible before settling on a final vote.
Anyways, now for our - my - final decision.
Ultimately, what it came down to here was trusting my heart over my head.
If you consider spec chat heroes as a wolf, pretty much all of the questions I feel are unanswered this game feel answered. We have an explanation for the N4 kill that isn’t “lolwolves”, his hesitation to let us clear ourselves makes sense (we’re acutely aware he was sitting waiting for me to come back after Appelsiini’s vote for a few hours), them having literally every scum at null or below and the three PRs in the bottom three becomes a cut-and-dried bus, and it just seems right in my head. I can clearly see why (did anyone even scumread Appel?) and (seriously i barely even tinfoiled her!) are set on this slot being the scum - it just makes sense.
But it doesn’t feel right. This has nothing to do with Vulgard trying to basically guilt trip me - if anything, I found that made me want to vote him more - but ultimately, when I look at which vote feels like the right one to make, it’s on Whysper. Sure, this leaves the only explanation for why the N4 kill happened as “lolderps” and means that the slot’s complete lack of drive to try and survive earlier on doesn’t make any logical sense either - but at least it explains how their votes were almost exclusively on scum, as well as their treatment of said votes as foregone conclusions, so there’s that I guess?
But at the end of the day, Derps, Whysper, …Eli?, (theres only 3 wolves in this setup help) did such a good job in almost every facet of their play that it feels wrong to look at the logical answer and conclude that they pulled of almost everything with such consistent perfection that nobody caught on until it was basically too late.
And, if they did, I’ma be honest - they really do deserve this one.
It really has come down to an emotional version of occam’s razor, and if I’m wrong here, I really owe smart one for completely fucking up the 1v1 against Amrock he’s been setting me up for the past several days. My bad my guy.
With all that out of the way - here goes nothing.
gg
/vote Whysper
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Final Votecount
| Accused | Voted by | Votes |
|---|---|---|
| Whysper | Vulgard, Appelsiini, Katze | 3/3 |
| Not voting | Whysper | 1 |
Drumroll time
So yeah Whysper is executed and is…
Student
You might be a typical college looking for loans to pay, but you have the drive to take out the scum that are trying to destroy the campus once more.
You win when all the Planters are either expelled or killed.
Ok game is over planters win. Congrat @sirderpsalot, @elithepsycho, and @appelsiini ! @Aelin you can begin your game
In the meantime, I have locked all threads related to this game, as I want to say my peace as moderator and host. I think chloe has something as well but as im not sure we will prob see
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This game in a nutshell has had 4-5ish contentious points and I would semi like to adress them all
First and second have to deal with how a couple slots handled Whysper as a slot. Our PR didnt shoot them when told by many and shot to them a person they heavily SR while others heavily TR them. Im not saying their shot was in bad faith, as they genuinly felt their beleif. What my whole thing is, let stop with shitting on peoples play. /shoot Jane should not become a meme. Yall have all made mistakes, yall arent perfect. Second lets not shit on how people handled both mylos. They fucked up, just like the PR. ylos/mylos are hard as shit, and if you havent experience one or have you should know the stress thats there. No one or group of people are at fault for town loss. You can point fingers and laugh at others. But that doesnt make you better at mafia, it makes ya worse as your not seeing how you should improve. A lot of people are like Appel was obv wolf why didn’t they kill them. 90% of the people who said that didnt feel that way til they clicked the spoiler button. So you cant blame others for not picking it up. I dont care if you feel her EOD4 was obvious, you had TMI
Next up is a double as well: Play the game ya signed up for, if not we have to replace ya. We had 3 replacements this game that were all wotm. And yall can yell at me all u want later, as tbh idgaf it improved the quality of the game. If people didnt post about 7 times per day those wouldnt have happened. Dont sign up for shit ur not interested in, if u dont wanna play replace out. Dont no post and bring nothing to the table. Now i heard three complaints about the replacements, oh you did em to late, i wasnt planning on wolfing against X, and they ruined the game. 1. ya that ones my fault, im lazy i should of done them at the end of day 2, but i just didnt do to just not having time, and when i did, i just didnt care enough. That ones on me. 2. Get over it, they were backups on the list the whole time, if they replaced out normally you would have had to deal with em too. 3. they didnt, the game didnt change as a sudden town victory, or anything. Same thing happened. Wolfs won. It brought life into the game and if u got a problem with that, I cant help ya.
I have a whole nother thing about lhf but tbh i think the people are already trying to improve on that. So yeah please take my words of advice and just be good people with this end of game
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this post
THIS POST
is straight FIRE
whysper played good
but it wasn’t enough, because of the other town.
sorry whysper
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