Wild West FM - Day 5 - Mafia Win!

[Mistyx]

intensify

why should i bother reading your response because if you’re a wolf it just lets you work off of my read

that’s a theory question btw not an alignment one

[Universal]

I am here now, give me a second

[Universal]

Sorry Insanity

[Mistyx]

hiya

can you give me a quick list of takes?

[Moleland]

/Unvote

Based on his other games, I think his… Doggedness with his position is probably Town indicative.

[Universal]

Give me 30 minutes to try and skim through the ISOs of some more people. Sorry about this xP

[Mistyx]

I’m gonna take a break for a bit until I can get a sanity check from the people I asked

Also ash why are you typing so much

[ash4fun]

MassISOtime!!!

Since I’m doing this in the morning and don’t want to spend 5+ hours on it, I’m not gonna quote a whole bunch. Just notable stuff and when I’m “onto something”. Also because these are mostly for me anyways.

1. Centuries

@Centuries

oh yeah thats bad

/vote Intensifiy

What is your actual read on seth?

First thing I noticed, they call intensify out for a bad read on seth (I looked at it and agree). Probably never w/w with both surge and intensify.

Other than that just seems comfortable in-thread, seems like past towngames and not homestuck. No agenda of note.

• Townlean

2. Clonedcheese

@clonedcheese

Hi uh
Thought this game started tmrw

Currently on mobile, gonna do some reading

Gonna wallpost once i get to pc

Boom ISO’d

but seriously noposting is nagl

• Nullscum

3. ash4fun

• Locktown

4. Trochidillae

@Trochilidae

indeed i’m new and this is my first FM
as for Luxy’s question i’ll have to go back and reread before making any hasty decisions

Wow, highposting in their first game. If this isn’t an alt lying, then I’d probably actually just lock this V for volume.

Just a lot of good posts in general, their thought progression is pretty visible too.

• Townread

5. Leafia

Leafia feels like town leafia…

I’m seeing omgus, but not really agenda

• Nulltown

6. Mist1422

Lotta solving, not super well explained but I can see progression.

Seems comfortable in-thread too.

• Townlean

7. an_gorta_pratai

Not a ton from gorta, but I like what’s there.

I don’t immediately see any blatent TMI or agenda.

So i guess theyre in their townmeta

• Nulltown

8. Intensify

@Intensify

Uhh don’t expect me to make reads in this or for me to do some heavy analysis crap… this is just literally me commenting on some things and making like 1 or 2 questions, this is what I was typing

This feels a bit self-aware

@Intensify

Reads time, this is kinda odd tho. Everyone so far seems to be towny. I don’t really have many people to suspect right now.

This feels like it’s easily tmi’ing ppl town

Also the readslist leaves people out, I’m not sure how I feel about that.

@Intensify

Have completely forgotten Seth is TWTBW?

@Intensify

To be honest, from what I’ve seen, it looks like Seth can change his playstyle as scum, so I’m giving him a chance for now if he is a town changing his playstyle. I don’t really like lonching TWTBW players

@Intensify

Aight that’s fair I guess.
I never said I was townreading them though. Also wdym “not backed with any reasoning for calling him that.” Seth has shown many times to be TWTBAW before… or am I getting something wrong here and Seth doesn’t do wolfy things as town?

@Intensify

Null. He’s Null.

@Intensify

I think you’re not understanding what I’m saying. I’m not really reading Seth right now as town or scum. He has done scummy things before as town, hence why I am not so quick to say he’s scum yet. I am defending him because he’s easy to mislonch here… he does scummy things as town, very easy to push that if you’re scum. I want to give him a chance, because purely making a full scumread on him because oh he did a few scummy stuff is not really good.

No read on him in the readslist, yet insists on white knighting him. Without sr’ing the attackers at all. High w/w equity. Esp if they vote seth later.

@Intensify

Also Imma start creating a readlist of sorts. Since I can’t fund any scumleans, I’ll just go look for townies and put whoever I don’t find townie in my scumreads.

like, this is just bad >:(

• Scumread

9. Surge

First thing I noticed, they’re at like 15th by postcount, usually they highpost.

@ChopChop

I mean your push on me is wrong but I’m not going to stress over it.
I’m sure eventually it’ll become clear on me being Town throughout more of the game.
Meanwhile i’ll be trying to make some solves here so even if you do ML me you’ll have something to go off of.

This doesn’t feel like normal seth.

@ChopChop

Town Reads

Luxy - Making Multiple Others Create Content, No Hesitation on Engagement, Solving.

RangerCecil - Like the Progression, Like the Reads, Like the Engagement

Town Leans

Intensify - Went Straight into Solving and even give a readslist very quickly.

Vulgard - Out of everyone in this game he has been trying to solve the most. I see lots of content generated from him in his ISO.

Like out of all my voters he has the most reason to be on me due to the fact he was the first to make an actual case on me and continue solving elsewhere. Now this is Vulgard so it’s still possible Vulgard is scum but for now I’m good with him as a Town Lean.

Mist - Genuine, Getting others to make Content, Chemist.

Thunal33 - she comes off genuine for me and instead of her being “Surge prob scum” she gives her genuine thought about me and that I haven’t posted enough and she doesn’t want to scum read me based on so little I have done which I really like. If She’s scum she can pocket me.

Town Nulls

Wazza - Seems Genuine Enough to put him above Null but I’m not entirely solid on this slot.

Appelsiini - I really like allot of the questions and comments they have been doing. even if they aren’t Town they are being Pro Town.

Leafia - I can’t directly get an accurate read regarding Leafia (at least not Day 1) but I will say I like the way they are solving currently.

Centuries - Starts his entrance with a Full on Vulgard Town Read, sheep’s Vulgard which with what he said previously is understandable. He has been making solves as well so he hasn’t just been sheeping Vulgard 24/7.

If he is scum, he’s probably going full pocket mode on Vulgard here.

Nulls

Apprentice - I can see his read on me come from either alignment and he hasn’t really posted anything else enough for me to get a good read towards the slot.

Suilt - From what I could tell most of their content is Memey with some small reads here and there. More content is needed from this slot for better read

PokemonKidRyan - They still haven’t really done anything for me to get a solid read and I have trouble reading them correctly.

Null Scums

Deadbanna - Not enough content for me. But from what I’ve read I feel his read on me is more of a “Yeah I’ll just agree with Seth and say let’s shoot him and not really give much”

Like I’m some easy ML for him to agree with and point it off as an excuse not to build further or comment towards my wagon as it’s literally the top wagon.

Then he has this SR on Yee-Claw based on his entrance I think? I’ll need more from him.

Ash - I’m getting off feelings about this slot especially when looking at some of their starting posts another thing is when I skimmed through I noticed they mentioned being confused regarding Ranger’s read on me despite other people having the same read. (Like they said something about the wording)

Yee-Claw - I don’t like how he decided to pin me as Wolf with PKR right out of the gate, not to mention I’m more of an obligatory vote for PKR due to the fact we don’t usually get along that well. They also seem a bit defensive towards things.

Light - Allot of Contentless Filler, Some Solves but I don’t feel much genuine input as much as I’d like

Scum Leans

Insanity - Must be a Slave for the Mafia

Scum Reads

Moleland - Starts his Posts off with Filler and random shit, In response towards me he goes “that’s a good read then” and votes me instantly. He doesn’t seem genuine at ALL allot of his content is “Look at me I’m so Townie”

Like Vulgard said if himself, Mole is probably trying to Pocket him. Mole also criticized a read when a read is someone’s own opinion. He’s been responding as question when he didn’t need to like as I stated before trying so hard to be “Look at me I’m so Townie”

Additional Comment:

I wonder who actually thinks my opening and response to getting voted was bad and who is scum that decided it’d be funny to blindly agree with it and pretend it’s their own opinion.

(100% sure Mole is one of Them!)

/Vote Mole

I’ma sheep vulgard here that this is wierd. It’s a readslist in response to pressure which is ???. And it’s also suuuper consensus, and T!seth is anything but consensus.

• Scumlean

10. PokemonKidRyan

@PokemonKidRyan

I am not used to Seth acting this way as any meta.
Most intriguing…
I will have to sus him out later.

PKR is paying attention to the thread. I think that’s tAI for them?

@PokemonKidRyan

I know this is a huge game and therefore there are 19 town and only 6 scum.
But I am lowkey getting worried that Apprentice is the third person now who reads Seth like me and Vul do too.

It is too early for something like this to be natural… right?

I could be overthinking but I could see this from an opportunistic Apprentice.
I am not voting it for now, but I have this in my consideration.

@PokemonKidRyan

Look, it is early on and I get paranoid.
I also really dislike this reaction >.>

This feels like a real thought.
PKR feels like their recent towngames imo

• Townlean

11. RangerCecil

They seem to have pretty good progressions, and are making opinions left and right.

Not sure I like their reliance on postcount for making reads

But otherwise looks pretty isolated

• Townlean

12. Light

Fluffposting entry is way outside their scum meta.

also townslipped # of scum, seems real maybe

tbh this is fine for now. Doesn’t endgame unless they improve but I’m good with this for now.

• Nulltown

13. Wazza

@Wazza

Can I not respond to a post and not have a read on it?

What is this argument?

@Wazza

And I explained the reasoning and those two others agreed with me. You’re just finding a reason to keep your vote on me.

I don’t think scum is this abrasive. Ik it’s slightly omgus but I think scum here usually explains that they had a read to smooth over.

• Nulltown

14. Luxy

Solving looks not that good tbh. Like, no townreads in first 1/3 of iso

Then tunnels leafia.

Then we get to isosolving posts

@Luxy

By kill someone I mean completely ruin their game because they are wolf and we should lynch them

@Whysper

Hi all. Well I wasn’t expecting this game to start so quickly. I’m out of town still for next couple days, so not as easy to keep up with posts, but I’ll be trying.

@Whysper

Haha, so the votes are already starting? I think I’ll hold back and wait for some actual reads before deciding who might be scum.

@Whysper

Hmm sounds good. I keep wondering if people truly understand others this well from previous games. Vulgare often seems so confident. And Seth is apparently weird in games, so not sure how to read him.

@Whysper

Ummm, is this suppose to be a RT? Or is this another vote for president?

This has got to be the worst opening I have ever seen

Generic Greeting
‘Whoa guys people are voting this early’
Hedge on two players
Dismissal of vote on himself

/vote Whysper

this feels a little performative

@Luxy

Anyway at this point

Thunal, sulit, Mist, Troch, ash

Are reasonably strong town in my eyes

I’m not feeling the Surge wagon don’t particularly like anyone on there, esp Apprentice, it seems to come from trust of Vulgard but then again, I haven’t read about 500 posts so something else may have come up.

Yee-Claw is an interesting one, don’t know how I feel about it.

Moleland is extremely isolated in thread, very much a sleeper rn, I don’t remember anyone defending him but everyone just agrees that he is probably scummy.

this is alright ig

@Luxy

Thunal is inexplicably pure I’m ready to lock it as town already

Moleland is a sleeper wagon pretty much, a lot of people agree they’re scummy but there isn’t too much pressure on them - This is a pretty good indication of them being a wolf

@Luxy

Vulgard your reads are awfully lacklustre this game why are you reading on postcount alone?

I’m already ready to lock Thunal at town and you have nothing AI about her except his postcount?

This feels a bit intentionally misrepresentative

Also I’m noticing a ton of “let’s hit someone other than surge” for inconsistent reasons

@Luxy

Overall, Leafia’s worldview here makes no sense to me, she actively and completely goes against concensus yet has demonstrated less than a solid grasp on the game, having over half the game as null and only 5 current townreads.

only quoted a tiny bit but this whole post feels performative to me. Like it feels like they’ve awknowledged leafia’s style but found some new buzzword to SR them over it for.

• Scumlean

15. Universal

@Universal

Mole has very big points brought against him. Frankly, his type of behavior is the same type I condemned Napoleon for a few games back. In general, it is just natural for my character to think badly of mole. Not going after this one may open up my character for future backtracking.

These feel like real thoughts.

Not much besides a push on mole.

I want more but fine for now

• Nulltown

16. yee-claw

feels very selfaware at the beginning

Reads and reasoning don’t seem to match well ->agenda

Also seems to be just sheeping luxy

@yee-claw

@ash4fun

there’s more people doing it than there are scum (at least I gather that from your phrasing)

Alright this realization was a slap on my face.

@Geyde People are townreading Whysper, and you voted them back then. Can you make a case on them?

This pivot looks really bad. I say one thing and they go full 180. Like I’d expect a “I suppose that TR doesn’t make as much sense ig”, but not “oh, what I tr’d them for, now I sr them defend yourself looser”

@yee-claw

And I don’t like her PoE.

It has Seth (a dead wagon without real opposition), me, Apprentice (whom I townread for tone), Mole (someone Luxy pointed out that is isolated in the thread) and Intensify.

What we all have in common is that we six are easily shadeable LHF.

That’s 5 people, not 6. This feels like a slip. PoE a little too close to the scumteam?

Also I would hardly call apprentice and intensify LHF. They’ve been pretty powerful in previous games, and now they’re considerably scummier.

• Scumread

17. Thunal33

Just reading through, nice tone. Pretty solvey, seems comfortable and not agenda-driven.

Also somewhat volume cleared

• Townread

18. Vulgard

vulgard seems obv town here. Especially compared to the scumgame someone provided.

Lots of takes, well supported

• Townread

19. Sulit

@sulit

conboi hasn’t made a conboipost yet

he isn’t a gamer yet

I’m kind of curious, has cent done his towntell yet?

Anyways I’m not seeing anything particularly towny from this. Nothing especially scummy either but I think t!sulit has a little more substance by now

• Nullscum

20. Moleland

First third of iso is meh.

But I think I like their posts after that. They feel pure enough.

They aren’t afraid to stand behind their reads, which was what set me off in joat^2

Also, they feel isolated in the thread.
Plus like 2/3 of my SR’s are pushing for their exe

• Nulltown

21. Whysper

They feel almost exactly like in SFoL63.

Also making many townreads early, I don’t think newbie scum does that

• Townlean

22. Geyde

Idk I think I maybe expected a little more from bignametownie. But I don’t see anything overtly scummy.

They seem pretty comfortable in thread.
But also not really trying to solve anything

like they made 1-2 reads and spent the rest of the time defending them.
And to vote they just sheeped sulit and then said they tr’d sulit.
And left

• Scumlean

23. deadbananas0

Not a ton of reads.
But they seem to reference their reads.
So I guess they exist.

I want them to pick up and start solving. But their tone seems alright.
And we have scummier ppl rn

• Nullscum

24. Appelsiini

They seem a bit sideliney
But also making some reads with good progression

I’m kinda torn on this one.
there’s some towny stuff but they seem so distant

actually it picks up later so NT for now

• Nulltown

25. Apprentice

Vote on surge is very level-0
dismissive/mocking of accusations nagl

and…there’s only 9 posts.
Like I get oog circumstances but this doesn’t feel like app that I’m used to.
Could be just lhf but they really need to pick up the pace if they want to survive past D2

• Scumlean

Okay, that only took me 3.5 hours instead of 5.5!
If ppl want me to expand on a read I can do that, but I think not quoting for everybody helped me actually finish this :D

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anyways for ordered readslist:

Trochidillae
Vulgard
Thunal33
Whysper
Mist1422
PokemonKidRyan
RangerCecil
Centuries
leafia
Universal
Wazza
Light
Moleland
an_gorta_pratai
deadbananas0
sulit
clonedcheese
Geyde
Luxy
Apprentice
yee-claw
Surge
Intensify

[Thunal33]

If you think they’ll be obvious town later why do you lean them wolf?

[ash4fun]

oh yeah

/vote Intensify @italy @Insanity

ooh look all the I names in one line!

[Thunal33]

I think making a good PoE is really important in this setup.

[Thunal33]

I can’t find Mist’s case on Intensify even when I looked through her ISO, where is it?

[Trochilidae]

i wish i was an alt, i’d look a lot more impressive. but i signed up to play the game, and i’m going to do it to the best of my ability so of course i’m gonna highpost!

[Thunal33]

I leaned town on Intensify. I haven’t seen Mist’s case yet, but this post about wanting to tell the truth feels like town. I don’t think scum would naturally say they’re telling the truth that often when they’re lying.

[Thunal33]

Does this forum have a lot of scum wins?

[Trochilidae]

i’ve personally seen a lot more scum win threads than town threads though i’d take my answer with a grain of salt

[Thunal33]

Intensify’s self vote reaction plan is something I don’t think a lot of wolves would do (but I do know some who would). He was completely unprompted and had no reason to self vote other than to make a reaction test.

[Mistyx]

because they aren’t obvious town yet and i don’t think they’ll obvtown if scum

[Thunal33]

Okay, so you’re saying they might become obvtown, not that they will?

[Thunal33]

Also where’s your case Mist? Somehow I still haven’t found it.