I still haven’t gotten my motivation back from whatever that SoD was but hi, what’s up. Any questions for me?
I know Mole and Mist got killed. Zzz.
I still haven’t gotten my motivation back from whatever that SoD was but hi, what’s up. Any questions for me?
I know Mole and Mist got killed. Zzz.
I shot Mole
was me
Oh wait, PKR too?
I told you he was towny
Even though my other reads have sucked apparently
Good job Cent~
Wait Claw too??
I told you that shot wasn’t necessarily scummy aaaaa
appel
uh
people itad
uhhh
6 townies
Centuries
stop being a nerd and sorting by post count
Why do you think I haven’t done any reads
My shotlist is Appelsiini’s townreads confirmed
kill in here
perform victory
early TR of Vul and leafia
not sure what a “villagery hedge” is, but it doesn’t seem very hedgey to me. I’m trying to figure out if this is a slip of planning to SR but it not working or if hedge just popped into mind and the overall read was villagery, hence the combination.
@Apprentice do you have any other reads or did you just come to throw a vote and dip?
idk the tone here feels like it’s never w/w with app
PokemonKidRyan:I also really dislike this reaction >.>
Why?
second time they ask PKR to expand on something. Feels like they’re actually trying to get in their head, not show off that they’re solving.
Wazza gets town points for this post. Good reasoning.
Not sure I appreciate the use of “town points” but it’s w/e
I was gonna dip but actually
Wazza:When I mention I don’t like a post, it doesn’t exactly mean I’m reading someone as scum because of it, it literally means ‘I don’t like this post, it stands out to me’, not ‘I don’t like this post, I find this person scummy’.
What were you achieving by posting it, then?
First push, on wazza
…Yet you never directly addressed him to ask about it?
This feels off.
Hmm.
Well, I’m gonna go now. Don’t flood the thread too muc
The way they handle this seems towny
Also I’m realizing that wazza might be a good exe but that’s a good question for later
Vul is my strongest townread. I should go look up FoL 29 when I have the energy to compare these games together, but so far I really like Vul for the reasons I’ve stated earlier.
I don’t have anyone I really scumread, but Wazza & Seth have done questionable things so I’ll be keeping an eye out especially for those two.
Consistent in reads. Not overambitious, good progressions on all of these
> Compare his wolfgame
> to this one
The difference with his reads and the way he accuses people is huge.
This feels like an actual read
And this holds up comparing to joat^2
Have you… fully read the thread, Claw?
If so, a question: if Vul is looking to scumread people, why did he end up townreading Leafia?
Progressions still looking nice
gonna skip ahead a random amount
I don’t have anything cool to say like you but uh
I get why people scumlean Claw now
And even though I toneread Intensify as town, he should be closely kept an eye on because he isn’t looking too good right now
jumped in so context be lacking but, this seems slightly worse
a 5-minute ISO of App because they're in Vul's shot list and I don't remember much from them
Apprentice:ok this post is almost exactly how Alice went about discrediting Wazza the instant Wazza scumread them in SFoL 63. There’s no attempt to interact with or understand yee-haw at all. I get that Cecil does scumread them. Why is this entire post devoted to discrediting everything about yee? Instead of just saying why their read on you is wrong you just try to discredit their entire readlist. Yes you scumread them. But you’re not even trying to have a dialogue with them at all.
App discrediting Cecil is not good.
Apprentice:stahp this
I’ve watched you do this over and over again based on any slight read you have regardless of alignment and being wrong very often. Please slow down and actually attempt to case people instead of just saying things like this
Even if Leafia & App are possibly W/W, I can see a wolf trying to get towncred from reasoning with Leafia in public.
Apprentice:yee-claw is like low end of null-slight scumlean for me
can you actually address why you’re handling yee this way?
Apprentice:I never said Cecil shouldn’t be wolfreading yee. I think it’s very reasonable to wolfread yee here.
…Eeeh.
Apprentice:Mole made bad points in Purgatory too. He was village there. Some players make bad points as town. Why do you think his are scummy here?
Apprentice:So you think he’s scummy, because he scumreads you but is unwilling to push you for it?
Lots of questioning and defending players instead of forming own reads.
Apprentice:yeah I think the scumread makes sense, I was just confused by your prior post
also thanks for explaining read it helps a lot so thanks for doing it
First says Mole is playing in his town range, then suddenly backs up. Eeeeh.
Alright, I'm fine with App dying.
This seems good. High effort, when just parroting town would more than suffice. Not a conclusion that comes from agenda
With all due respect to Leafia, they’re a special case. I’m not against them dying here though.
defending leafia from luxy is a good look imo
The general plan is to discuss ITAs before they’re shot.
I can’t say anything about if everyone will follow the plan, but no one is supposed to die before having the chance to defend themselves.
Like this. imagine if we could actually listen
I feel inclined to just coast until there are only reasonable players left. This game is such a mess.
I can totally understand that feeling, coming off all the bad shots.
Right now I’m wondering if I should shoot Cloned or a (likely scummy) player with a higher thread presence to stop this madness
No
/shoot Cloned
…
Bye
Clearing PoE is good even if hitting town is not
That case convinced me but bleh
This feels like a towny reaction to hitting town.
Okay hot take, I’m gonna get backlash for this but
I’m actually getting bad vibes from the way Mist defended Leafia and from the way she avoided being on Seth’s wagon
I also think everyone has been too easy on Chili who has been consistently following the general consensus which has been proven to be not-so-goodBut I’m not gonna act like I’ve solved anything, because they’re probably town
Those are the vibes I’m getting
That’s all
Nice, independant thoughts. Wrong, but don’t really look like agenda.
Cloned was the only one with a good case, and I admit I was still sheeping Vul a bit. Claw’s shot wasn’t scummy because the reaction itself felt genuine, even more so as the first shot was from a person that was part of the PoE, and from a general standpoint, it wouldn’t be the smartest idea for a wolf to clear it.
Wazza:Keep in mind the change happened right after Yee-Claw killed deadbanana.
Assuming you scumread me for this, why do you think I did it as a wolf? What was my mindset and what was I trying to achieve?
Managed to TR yee-claw after the shot. I still think it was a scummy shot so ofc I’ll bring up TMI here, but I had the same reaction to PKR so it’s probably fine
TL;DR
I think I’m comfortable towncoreing appel now.
Also I’m too lazy to spoiler it so I’ll just make you all read it *gasp*
As much as I like App’s vibes
Why is someone supposedly wanting to be shot and possibly actually openwolfing not there
Yeah as an actual openwolfer I can tell you for sure he’s not in my scumteam, Vulgard is, Light too
early TR of Vul and leafia
(This was not a TR on Leafia btw)
(I was just proud of them)
(I can’t read Leafia at all)
oh wow
That actually felt pretty good.
I’ve been doing nothing all day and now as a direct result of being productive I have a better grasp on the threadstate!
too bad I’m also just tired.
soo I prolly go sleep now
Actually I don’t think Wazza mentioned he was town even once in his long argument with Mist. He said Mist reading his entrance as wofly was BS and weak but he didn’t even say it was wrong or say he was town.
why would I have to mention I’m town if I already know I’m Town?
And yes, I was talking about how Mist’s argument is wrong so wtf are you on about lmao.
not sure what a “villagery hedge” is, but it doesn’t seem very hedgey to me. I’m trying to figure out if this is a slip of planning to SR but it not working or if hedge just popped into mind and the overall read was villagery, hence the combination.
I’m sometimes very hedgy
I’d like to believe I can judge when the hedge is more likely to come from a V PoV rather than a wolf struggling to form fake reads
Go to sleep, you did well.
Okay but… could I have an actual answer?
he doesnt endgame so we gotta sort him out asap