Wild West FM - Day 5 - Mafia Win!

[Whysper]

@ash4fun

Also it just occurred to me last night so I don’t blame if anyone else missed it but did it occur to anyone that app voting themselves is likely just antispew?

Also refusing to self-pres at luxy’s request

I’m not sure if I understand what you mean by antispew here.

[ash4fun]

I think that both you (gorta) and Thunal are wolves right now.

Explaining why to you would be exhausting for me, and utterly useless for town, So I’ll wait to make cases for people I TR to show up.

I have some irl stuff to do so I’ll probably just leave thread for a while

[sulit]

mornin’

aaa

[an_gorta_pratai]

@ash4fun

Explaining why to you would be exhausting for me, and utterly useless for town, So I’ll wait to make cases for people I TR to show up.

Can you give a little bit of reasoning for that? We have 35 hours in the day, so you have time, but I want just a summarized reason for this. It’s never useless to explain your thoughts. When I didn’t explain my thoughts and they were correct it was part of the reason town lost. I don’t care how hairbrained your ideas are, just let me hear them. I am actually not sure about Thunal right now, so if you have a different perspective I want to hear it.

@ash4fun

I have some irl stuff to do so I’ll probably just leave thread for a while

Same here actually, but I will be here and there

[an_gorta_pratai]

Do you have any thoughts on the game?

[Marshal]

D3 ITA’s have begun. Reminder that the format must be

/shoot [player]

and pinging me while you shoot is appreciated.

[Thunal33]

So the thread that’s dominated by wolves wants to reevaluate the PoE and make sure people don’t make bad shots?

[sulit]

gonna look at Light

Luxy started sussing him iirc and I put off isoing him yesterday

[Thunal33]

Same. I want to look at everyone at some point today but not sure I have the time for that.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I look forward to seeing the fruits of that labor, but I really should be going now

[sulit]

reading lights ISO makes me want to commit sudoku

[Trochilidae]

my first FM game anywhere, actually.
also, i’d like to apologize for my novote and large activity dip D2. i know i’d warmed about it earlier, but i didn’t think it would actually have to happen so i am sorry for that.

[Thunal33]

I actually thought you meant first FM game on this forum since you seemed like you had some experience from your play. It makes sense that you’d be nervous in your first few posts then. Just by the amount of content I think it would be hard for a newbie scum to be the top poster and give takes that make sense.

[Thunal33]

It’s just hard to get through tbh. I’ve started reading it a few times but then I get discouraged since there’s just so much fluff.

[Trochilidae]

i wish, maybe i’d actually be more useful then. i’ve mainly played miscs, DR, and VLDR. i have however spec’d a game before i played as i didn’t want to just go in guns blazing

[Vulgard]

@ash4fun

Okay so I was about to come in guns blazing and say the scumteam is

app
wazza
thunal
and luxy

but apparently that’s not completely right.

I still don’t like the first 3 but I need to read a little more ig

@ash4fun

I think that both you (gorta) and Thunal are wolves right now.

Explaining why to you would be exhausting for me, and utterly useless for town, So I’ll wait to make cases for people I TR to show up.

I have some irl stuff to do so I’ll probably just leave thread for a while

i think i’m going to sheep you

[Vulgard]

also
luxy was killed because the flipped wolf tmi’d him as town
he was as close to lock as it gets

[ash4fun]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Anyways hi vulgard!

[Vulgard]

hello

thunal’s progression earlier was awful

@Vulgard

@Thunal33

Moleland has questionable posts but I feel like there’s not enough info for me to actually scumread him, asking lots of questions without followup could just be his meta.

@Thunal33

Mole is null since I think his readslist was good but his early posting was kind of sus.

@Thunal33

I’m overall null on Moleland. His constant questioning without any followup reads like a wolf trying to make an attempt to appear towny, but his sheeping of Vulgard was actually a decent reason to vote Surge and I like his readslist.

@Thunal33

Is there anyone who reads Moleland above null? Since I don’t think they looked all that bad, they had some scummy posts (the questions felt like scum trying to look towny)

@Thunal33

The Mole wagon feels worse than the Surge wagon at this point, but they’re both LHF that haven’t really done anything that gives away a scum mindset. I don’t townread either but I’m reluctant to lynch them today.

@Thunal33

I think that Mole and Surge should be resolved during ITAs.

@Thunal33

I actually think Surge is a better D1 wagon than Mole at this point, literally nobody resists the Mole wagon and he’s more LHF than Surge is at this point. Also I read Vulgard town so I have some level of trust in his reads (but not a lot).

@Thunal33

I dislike the lack of resistance at the start but at least resistance picked up. I still don’t feel super confident on Seth being scum but I think he’s a better person to vote than Mole or Intensify.

@Thunal33

Do you mean Seth being wolf would clear Mole?

@Thunal33

I’d say Mole/yeeclaw/Whysper/Eevee are decent shots tomorrow.

@Thunal33

Moleland is kind of a meh shot , I looked through clonedcheese’s ISO and I think his progression on Surge feels wolfy. Kind of a “I’ll defend him until I can’t” progression.

@Thunal33

Moleland is just null, maybe slight scum, l and hard to figure out. I could see distancing going on with Seth.

@Thunal33

I don’t want people to shoot Apprentice now tbh. There are better shots like Mole or yeeclaw.

“app is in a better position after his ate, better pivot to mole”

@Thunal33

I think I’m going to shoot Mole.

@Thunal33

/shoot Mole

read this progression twice
why are people townreading this

@Vulgard

look at what i quoted

she is like “null null null nullscummaybe” until a moment when she’s like “apprentice is town, shoot mole or yeeclaw”

1. gives mole a possible out if yeeclaw takes too many shots to kill
2. goes against her nullread on mole (didn’t she have scumreads?)
3. suddenly flips on mole

3 might have more relevance if thunal’s shot was after yeeclaw died
it’s townier if the shot was before yeeclaw died
it’s scummier if it was after

@Vulgard

@Thunal33

Moleland is kind of a meh shot , I looked through clonedcheese’s ISO and I think his progression on Surge feels wolfy. Kind of a “I’ll defend him until I can’t” progression.

reminder that she says that she changed her mind

@Thunal33

I scumread Mole all of D2 after the Seth flip.

but the post about moleland being a meh shot is on day 2
not only that, she’s providing cloned as an alternative to mole

and then she grouped mole with yee-claw even after flipping on him

reminder that both yee-claw and cloned flipped villa

@Vulgard

it’s like she’s leaning into killing him but not before she can get multiple villagers killed

@Vulgard

come to think of it, universal’s push and read being seemingly independent are a good look for him
it was also consistent
thunal/universal not w/w. thunal’s iso suggests the bus on mole was planned d2, not d1 (if she’s a wolf)
universal’s would suggest the opposite if he’s a wolf (although it could still be distancing)

[Vulgard]

i want to come back to this here since it seems relevant