Wild West FM - Day 5 - Mafia Win!

You know what? I just convinced myself on that.
/vote RangerCecil

It came across more like ā€œIā€™m exhausted having to resist a good read of me and want the scrutiny to stop before Iā€™m exposedā€ to me

Having to defend yourself from a death tunneler feels like shit as both alignments.

I wouldnā€™t say theyā€™ve been death tunneling you. Not even close

a death tunneler basically sacrifices themselves to get you shot/lynched, no?
if so i donā€™t think itā€™s been to that extent but she has been pushing you a fair bit

Half their takes seem reachy/confirmation-biased to me. Like the entire pocketing Ashe thing.

I mean, she can be simply wrong :man_shrugging:

youā€™re stupid.

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Oof

Thatā€™s why I didnā€™t vote her before. But her PoE isā€¦ bad. It is full of isolatedly scummy LHF.

Leafia, don't open.this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724000961106018345/725099822222147638/20200623_222503.jpg

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Ok so the reason I needed to see Leafiaā€™s worldview right now was that this post here was a fucking loaded cannon right into my towncore, completely contrarian to most peopleā€™s reads and arguing Surge is town:

I wanted Leafia to post their reads so I could see what theyā€™re proposing as an alternative towncore yet

She has 5/24 people listed as varying degrees of town including the top wagon of Surge. She has 8/24 players as scumreads, close to double the amount of her townreads when there are only 6 scum in this game. Everyone else is listed as null. Now I know I put her on the spot with the townlist but her mindset on the game makes no sense coming from someone who made a post literally flipping the gamestate on its head: More or Less Concensus Town are actually scum and the top wagon is actually town. This shows that wants to completely disagree with the gamestate but does not have an opinion on over half the playerlist. I was giving the her the benefit of the doubt with that post because she could have generally been a townie unhappy with the current events but her worldview here is way too narrow to justify a gameflipping read in any regard. She leaves over half the game on null which is a pretty good indicator that its a wolf readlist.


Now lets look at her ISO, sheā€™s awfully quick to condemn me for one post I made on sulit which I changed my mind on and said he was town:

Cop out when I first asked her about it

Argues with me about how meta is good beforehand but refuses to use it to justify her read on myself. It really just does seem she was trying to seem like she was doing something by arguing with myself for so long.

She likes Intensify, someone whos pretty concensusly disliked. Started the game by shadethrowing vulgard and setting up his lynch, accuses Cecil and thenā€¦

she decides to vote yee-claw with zero interaction with any of his/herā€™s posts.

Sheā€™s been defending Seth all game, which is one of the consistent parts of her ISO

Slam! The entire towncore is apparently more scummy to her than Surge?!? This makes no sense, she disagrees with the concensus yet doesnā€™t have a strong grasp of the gamestate herself as demonstrated by her readlist and screams of trying to keep a towncore from forming early.

Yeeclaw as well despite no interaction between them

This is what I was saying earlier, so if Leafia agrees with a lot of what I say, then why am I so scumread to her right now? It makes no sense

She then contradicts herself in the same post.


Overall, Leafiaā€™s worldview here makes no sense to me, she actively and completely goes against concensus yet has demonstrated less than a solid grasp on the game, having over half the game as null and only 5 current townreads. If she was town and believed the current towncore was bad, she would make an effort to find players she would towncore and build her knowledge of the game so that she can expose the deepwolves. Instead she shades the entire towncore, arguing we should all be shot tomorrow during ITA but not suggesting any replacements for the position, indicating her intention is not to solve but to prevent a towncore formation. The current ā€˜towncore-ishā€™ is all scum to her apparently, and someone still reads Thunal as null despite large amounts of interaction between the two. This indicates to me that Leafia is trying to be seen as a towny to ā€˜break the moldā€™ and reshape the game where she has authority, whilst simultaneously saving her scumbuddy Surge. I can easily see them both flipping scum here and I do not think Leafiaā€™s thoughts are real ones at all to say the least. Not to mention her readlist is pretty textbook wolfy with all the nulls, but I did force her to do it so its probably a weaker tell here.

Note: Iā€™m using towncore as my personal towncore but I do believe weā€™re relatively concensus town at this point.

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I do not believe Leafia can be town with such polarised reads to everyone else, I see no thought process for half of them, barely any progression for the other half indicating sheā€™s making the conclusions before having reasons for them.

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Have you read JOAT2?

She benefits from flipping the gamestate here with that post, especially if Surge is her scumbud

No

Iso her there. Her reads wereā€¦ A unique kind of special in that game too

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She literally tried to argue that she wanted to post a readslist with reasoning on everyone there and we insisted on the opposite.

Iā€™m talking about the stuff in her ISO

Namely

Surge
Cecil
yee-claw

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{Mist, Thunal}
{Tro, Leafia, Vulgard, Luxy, ash}
{Sulit, Light, Cecil, Centuries, Appel}
{Surge, cloned, whysp, DB, Geyde, gorta, Uni}
{PKR, Mole, Wazza, yee-claw}
{Apprentice, Intensify}

one of these reads is in the wrong tier by at least two

try to guess which

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