real talk
ignoring the lolpkr moment what could i have done better this game from spec chat perspective?
this but also itās all umbrella stuff when people have very specific problems usually that such a thread doesnāt help fix
IMO been more forceful with shotlists or at the very least more solid with them and other things in general.
You were, FMPoV, the top villa or one of the top 2 villagers. I think it would have been better to have a shotlist of about 4-5 names and say that people have to shoot in these and take time to discuss it and really think of a good shotlist.
This game was very unorganized and still is due to the lack of a real leader figure, and personally I think it would have been better if you did take the leader figure role in a more concrete direction.
(I also agree with geyde that tiered shot lists are not good for ITA games, I personally think so becuase it allows people, wolves and villagers, to be able to justify honestlky terrible shots as āspicyā shots instead of accomplishing what shotlists are meant to in the first place, which is to force wolves to use their KP on wolves and thin the PoE.)
You, for example, had leafia vs luxy as TvT. While both were hard tunneled I think it would have been better to make more of an effort to actually get them to re-eval instead of just kind of watching the trainwreck.
Tl;Dr: You were a not-stupid villager and I think you could have done better in reducing the stupidity of the other villagers
to be more specific
your general play was good
but there are bound to be issues in your play that donāt just stem from being unlucky (not necessarily true; just spitballing) per se
in particular:
- biases are usually pretty common
- clearing people off of tone when itās a risky endeavor is poor
- Gamestate reads can help clear lhf
- Tiering your fucking shotlists
what do you mean on the gamestate read?
like I think that helped with leafia but idk how it would have with intensify/apprentice
I havenāt read all of thread
most of genuine improvement at mafia comes from self reflection rather than somebody telling you what to think
experimentation + effort -> result -> reflection
itās a cycle
I personally disagree, I am pretty terrible at internally criticizing myself and I find it easier to reflect when people tell me what I did wrong in a constructive way.
Not really how to fix it per se
but what some holes in my game were
because I am internally and externally exactly the retrospecter and suck at self-reflection
this isnāt really true for everyone but I think being told what iām doing wrong is at least helpful for me if I am actively looking to improve
itās kinda hard to self-reflect when i look back on this game and just have āgot shot by a lolwillager for ??? reasonsā blocking my vision for it
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I donāt find āwhat can I do betterā to be as helpful as āwhat did I do wrongā
because thereās different solutions for everyone and everyone knows themselves best and knows what work for it.
But maybe thatās just because iām way better at problem solving than identifying problems and not everyone is me
to me it seems like the same question, just phrased more positively
āwhat did i do this game that i need to/can improve onā
I guess you are right
I read it more as āhow can I do betterā which implies specific advice for improving certain facets of your game which I donāt find to be as constructive because advice can be given without flat out stating the problem itās addressing and leads to it being less helpful
They are not even talking at all about any of the scum. This is hard to watch, but I also canāt look away.
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