uh yeah not gonna lie i forgot derps was on your wagon
again from your perspective this was obvious because you only had 1 scumread to deal with
from my point of view you two were equally wolfy in different ways and your flip would have given us more info than a marl flip if we hit v
Intensify first, Light next and then Illwei.
YOU THOUGHT MY WALLPOST WOULD HAVE QUOTES, BUT YOU WERE WRONG
I donāt see any scum vibes from Intensify. Sure Bed Wars and etc at the start, but the reads are progressive and stuff, and I did agree that Windās wallposts are lacking in feasible content at that point in time. (I think Iāve stated this somewhere as well).
Honestly itās really just the fact that Iāve had similar town reads of Wind while everyone was piling onto Wind for having a different tone.
Though, I think that last post of Day 1 was just rip. Not saying itās bad, thatās understandable, sometimes too much chaos is overwhelming.
Personally, JOAT Claims are a trap for people to fall into. Iām fine with scum falling into that trap but please town donāt go charging and believing just any PR claims. Heck I can even claim Mafia JOAT to make this thread explode right now (Iām not)
Lightā¦ I have no idea why Iām listing you as one of my ā???ā reads. My notes all paint you in a good light when I read your posts just now.
The main interaction I can see from Light is between Light and Illwei. I guess I can touch the two of them together.
But First
After this commercial break of that random mislynch thing that I stated, I should clear that up firstā¦
I did read some MU articles a while back so itās kinda skewed that way, including that 10 worst mislynches in champs articleā¦ and many stuffs.
They said something about scum needing some mislynch thing and something about momentum.
I am fully aware that people are voting me for pressure. Iām looking at the gamestate yesterday when I finally saw the flip (Thank god it wasnāt Eli or Wind), Marl got oofed, and the only thing I had about him was ā???ā
There isnāt a world where I would have been killed (unless they randomize and hit me, which wouldnāt have made sense),
Because I was in the POE after getting under suspicion after the quick sheep vote on Eli without reason. I also didnt provide enough of my own reads (which in hindsight I should have let out),
Which would make it easy for people to first pressure vote me, then if I āscumslipā, quickly use that momentum to snowball onto the wagon.
Which was what I thought as Iām pretty sure Marl has a good grasp on my mannerisms as town when I played FoL about a year or two back. I donāt see Marl not instructing the wolves to dig into my posts and push me from there, as the scum should be kinda demoralized right now and need to stay up no matter what.
Hmm did I just do something. Iām having fun XD
Light and Illwei next.
I have a feeling Iām misunderstanding that article badly.
Is it too early to apply those here
may I present to you Shurianās post from D1
out of the nonposters, Marl flipped scum.
do we think anyone whoās been very active could be scum? I know weāve mostly been looking at the people with lower postcounts, but I still think we may have a wolf amongst the most active players, contrary to popular belief. However, I doubt we have two.
Iām not actually ISOing Shurian at the moment so I donāt remember what the follow up was to this. But Iām pulling this quote because I think it brings up an interesting point.
This is where they elaborated on the āgroupingā idea.
Anyway, the point I was getting to in my previous post is:
The two remaining scum likely didnāt notice that Eli counterclaimed to Eevee. Otherwise they would not have roleblocked Eli and attacked Eevee. Someone was not paying attention, so they were not active in the thread at that time and also didnāt bother to read the thread thoroughly during the JoaT fiasco.
The people active during that point or immediately after were min, Eevee, Maple, Eli, Intensify, Illwei, and me. But Intensify caught up on the thread and got confused, Illwei came in to say that Iām scum, and the four others were all JoaT (counter)claims. Light came in after Maple ccād but before Eli did, and all he said was that the setup is worse than JoaT^2 (lol). Illwei expressed she was intimidated by Maple, Intensify went afk, Derps briefly appeared to say that voting town is antitown, Light said he wanted to vote min even more after min retracted their claim, Shurian posted a meme about reaction testing, people started changing their avatars, then Eli hardclaims JoaT B. Illwei is still present in the thread, votes and unvotes Eli, Light drops in to read the thread and think about Eli (but says his brother is making him drink) and sees Eliās JoaT cc when I point it out. Light mentions a thunderdome between Eevee and Eli, so Iām going to take this as a sign that I should actually clear Light from the scumlist.
Marl then appears and just says he wants to yeet PKR for suggesting we donāt vote a PR (particularly min). He posts some fluff and says most likely we will end up voting Eli out and that I can self-pres by voting Eli.
Shurian and PKR are the next to appear. Shurian elaborates on why they voted Eli immediately after min and says it was basically a reaction test to gain more content. They explain their āgroupingā theory and suggest we check out Marl and PKR (if I understand their post correctly).
I think thereās a while in between before anyone else appears, but the next one in is Arctic and he catches up on the thread. Notably, he quotes Eliās JoaT B cc, so I know heās also seen it.
Nobody else appears in the thread soon enough after the JoaT fiasco for me to consider them cleared for reading.
I would therefore like to clear Light and Arctic for noticing Eeveeās and Eliās conflicting JoaT B claims. I am not totally sure about Illwei, Intensify and Shurian, as they all went afk again before Eli counterclaimed.
I think I just tried to apply big game theories without understand how they really work.
I just realized itās only been the second day and I shouldnāt be too relaxed.
Basicallyā¦
Gamestate, Iām in POE. No kills.
Scum needs comeback mislynch.
Iām highest likely target before derps. Push me ez.
And Intensify is clear**. I note the last post because thatās when you were visibly frustrated and confused as town and left for the day (Post 119 of your ISO), unless I missaw the posts because I think Post 120 was Day 2.
Reads were progressive and relatable (to me).
This right here
I find to be problematic.
His frustration looks very towny (and apparently my frustration looked scummy because I didnāt leave? lol) but because he left, I have no way of verifying when he saw Eliās JoaT B counterclaim.
So he, Derps Shurian and Illwei are in my āmay or may not have seen itā list, i.e., they still couldāve made the mistake of trying to roleblock one and kill the other, assuming the JoaTs are actually who I think they are.
I was thinking
Min/Eevee/Maple as one group
Eli by their lonesome (thatās why I unvoted)
PKR / Marl (from that one āmemeā exchange I had before I left) though, itās NAI.
I havent done that group analysis though.
this makes sense as a group because it pretty much only works as a group, and now that Marlās flipped and the night results are in, theyāre towncleared (at least to me).
well, I know you didnāt. plenty of others did, though. Iām just trying to figure out if thatās TMI for you/Intensify or if itās awkward reading on me because Iām still more or less a newcomer. I donāt think anyone besides you two mentioned townreading me.
oh wait, Illwei mentioned my wallpost efforts looked towny, but then said something NAI that Iād done was scummy, so idk.
yes, this. I saw it when you posted it, and I gave it thought then, but I didnāt see you change your view on me at all when some people who were null- or even townreading me switched to scumreading me later when I was blowing up in reaction to being wagoned.
on the one hand, that tells me you werenāt pinpointing me as an easy misyeet even though you could have. on the other hand, it could also indicate TMI if you decided to distance yourself from your scummates.
could go either way. shrug
me and my vague āmaybe, maybe notā reads smh
I gotta work on developing them more.
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Ok cool. Question though, what did you find exactly scummy about bed wars? Like was it just because it was floof or whatever? Cause at that stage of the thread we were all just kinda randomly fluffposting or whatever for the most part.
Uhh why are you trying to apply an article onto here that you can only vaguely remember? Wouldnāt it be better to find it again first?
So you believe we have a deepwolf? Since all our higher posters are kinda townread I believe.
Ok so 2 things
I donāt believe this a great Light clear, however, I wouldnāt disagree that I think Light is town
Againā¦ not exactly the best way to clear someone, but I donāt think those two are scum.
I meanā¦ emotional clears or whatever AtE crap arenāt exactly that good of a clearā¦ just sayingā¦ but thanks?
