[Winter Event] JoaTJoaTJoaT13 - Mafia wins!

I’m not very sold on Maple being town right now.

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or at least mafia, anyway

ok give me a sec

because Min was sitting at a null for me before, and is still sitting at a null for me now, besides the JoaT claim. I don’t take PR claims into account until they’ve taken an action that’s somehow provable.

yes, because he’s actively tonereading and trying to dissect people’s posts to see what could possibly be scummy out of everything they say. He felt more laid-back in his scum game and didn’t death tunnel early. In the 9er game where he was town, he also dissected my posts and declared them scummy for tone reasons, then tunnelled me for a day and a half, including after I claimed town PR, until we basically had too many PR claims resulting in a mech conflict.

I don’t think the behavior of initially scumreading and tunnelling people is wolf AI for Arctic and this looks almost identical to the 9er game imo, so I’d be pretty willing to townlean him here as well unless he’s just mastered the art of mimicking his town game as scum now. However, he didn’t replicate it in Countries FM so I’m fairly sure about this.

I know I can’t just scumread people for memeing, and you know that as well. But Maple was still kind of going off on a tangent after the meme phase seemed to end, and I’m pretty sure they just threw a vote on min without an explanation and followed your lead, which I didn’t particularly like.

on the other hand, maybe that’s their playstyle; I need another day or so to analyze their posts if that’s the case.

I’m not really sure I understand what you mean here.

I see, ok that makes sense. Usually I see people OMGUS each other after one person scumreads someone else.

I only do that if I suspect scum is pushing me, but in this case I don’t.

maples just generally seems like he doesn’t give a shit about what people think about them, and yes i know this is possible from scum too, but i feel like it’s more likely from town
or maybe he just acts like that all the time, i’m not really sure

this post explains min’s responses pretty well
min has been going back and forth and we know they are capable of playing with emotions, although admittedly this comes from town and scum min
but when you combined this with the extra amount of inconsistency we’ve seen i can’t help but agree with what maple is saying here

i was thinking the same thing about light, but i feel liketthis was more to take an interrogative stance with illwei rather than acting wolfy
nonetheless i had a similar thought process here

forgot to add to that last part, i also see what he means about light’s ‘interrogation’ of illwei, if you will

it started off fine, but at the end it seemed more like pulling at straws for the sake of doing something

So you just agree with the thought process that Maple has correct?

I admit I actually completely forgot that Maple made that post, so I was wrong.
Still on the fence about where they stand, though.

Arctic, what’s your opinion on Eli so far?

i agree with maple’s thought processes and experienced similar ones myself, albeit we came to different conclusions on light

eli has mainly been sheeping as far as i’m aware and the only game i played with him was where he was killed d1 in the countries game so i’m not really sure how to read him for this

he did pick up on min’s complaint about OMGUS being bullshit although this may have only been used as a justification to jump on the wagon

i don’t know where to place this slot to be honest with you

night 1, sorry

So it wasn’t really genuinity you saw, it was more that you two found a similar thought process on the same subject, though came to a different conclusion?

i agree with them but that’s not the main point

the point is i can understand the thought process therefore it appears genuine

Hmm ok. So you believe that line of thought process comes from a towny thus why you believe it is genuine.

Certain people’s ISOs make me have an aneurysm.

I’m putting off Arctic as ya’ll seem to be reading him on that. I’ll come back to him eventually.

I’m pretty sure I said Intensify was forcing the thread to continue in the first place (I can’t remember why I thought they were scum, that’s a town thing). I’ll be looking at his posts a bit more because I feel there’s something off that I can’t really figure out right now.

Maple seems like they have a lot of experience in the FM Playing Field, so I’ll treat them as such. With that being said, I see no real reason to scumread them or the opposite.

PKR is PKR, PKR pockets me so I pocket him… Wait… :wink:

Marl shall activate his Sherlock Holmes before I assassinate him… Well, actually now that I read his ISO, I’m actually shocked he put out at least something juicy for me to work with.

well can you like
finish your reads at some point today because we need to form an actual PoE soon

what

also what happened to marl
i haven’t seen anything from this slot in a while

this is the last actual content we got from marluxion, and uh

lol

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The TLDR of my reads can only be finished when I’m done with my associations and possible scumteams in which every single day is packed and it’ll be most unlikely for me to finish today sadly

I thought today was going to be a free day! I’m so damned tired from yesterday DX

TLDR of my current jumbled thoughts is that
Non posters may have 0/1 scum [Thread is moving in a singular direction]
Active posters have 1/2 scum

Marl is probably not scum* (???)
PKR’s scum play isn’t present here yet. Putting as town.

what makes you think marl is town here