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Off-Topic (Thronepass)
#49541

poison healer in a game with no poisoners

#49542

And none of them will do anything because I don’t think they can even visit.

#49543

town in a game with no town
ita specialist in a game with no itas

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#49544

okay but like

i thought i was a guilty child in anime FM for most of D1

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#49545

I mean technically godfathers ability implies there are investigatives which can be considered bastard

#49546

That’s explicitly not bastard
Not big brain
Just facts

#49547

see tricks like that aren’t bastard in small numbers, I feel

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#49548

Technically no
It’s player expectation that motivates that
That could be seen as a valid problem for the general game but for definitions, no

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#49549

doctor in a setup with no mafia

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#49550

ok fuck

i should sleep tbh

#49551

Replace mafia with corona

#49552

I would if you say there are no conversions for example And then add ability that doesnt force someone to change factions but just changes their wincon

#49553

Saying no conversion then adding alignment changing abilities would be bastard

#49554

Since the terms are used interchangeably, especially on this forum

#49555

converting people into omnimillers

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#49556

That is expectation no?

#49557

Yes, but not in the same manner as a player’s expectations of setup design
If they are told there is no conversion going in, then proceed to have alignment changing be a factor in that game, then that’s a problem

#49558

If the host defines conversion as changing faction then saying that it’s Bastard will be based on expectation of players that conversion means wincon change

#49559

If host defines conversion as something different than reasonable expectation explicitly, then it’s ultimately up to them how they handle it

#49560

Emphasis on explicit