Announcement: Updated Policy on Replacements

Spoiled spectators can’t sub in.
Site has games with 6+ spectators
This seems like too many
We have games struggling for replacments

If have less specs we’d have more replacements available.

you cant limit the number of spectators; that’s stupid
if someone has mental illness but still wants to be a part of the game, they should be able to spectate

i dont give a damn if a game has more spectators than players, to be quite honest.

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Same. I get burnt out though and then I just want to know whether or not I’m right.

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Those who spectate a game almost always are those who never would have considered playing the game or replacing in, even if there was a spec cap

So this is a moot point.

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Hence why I said to limit the spec sub to only one person.

Ah. I see.

Sorry - when did I say we should limit spectators?

I said the amount of then are harming the replacement pool. It’s not easy to fix, except maybe discouraging uninformed spectator chats.

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again, anyone who chooses to enter an uninformed or informed spectator chat never, ever would have considered playing or subbing into the game, i assure you.

still a moot point.

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This is pretty much it.
I’m not comfortable with closed setups yet, but say with Dreaming Gods I really enjoyed the flavor and wanted to see how the game would go.
I wouldn’t ever consider replacing in even if I wasn’t in a spectator chat.

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I’m pretty sure most people following a game would be willing to hop in if it was literally we need a replacement or the slot is killed off/game is canned.

Nope
Might be that way elsewhere, but people who spectate here know they have too low WiM or IRL-stuff to ever play

this site is very clear on the fact that any kind of spectator may never later become a sub. We learned that lesson the hard way with SFoL 58.

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your solution is bad, moleland, for the simple fact that the problem you think it would solve doesn’t actually exist.

You’re bad

I don’t see how challenging a culture of “I must be in a spectator chat” to follow a game is bad. If saying ‘Hey, I think we have too many people constantly spectating instead of playing’ helps one game find a ready replacement, then it is worth mentioning

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There is no culture

People who spectate here know with at least relative certainty that they would never have the WiM necessary to handle the game at any point.

I like spectating because I don’t actually feel like playing or reading the game, but I still want to be semi attached to it somehow and hear what weird shit happens.

Boom spectate

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I get where he is coming from, but I think that there’s just… No real solution.
I guess hosts could emphasize the fact that if there are too many spectators and the game needs replacements it might be canned – so that individuals who think that they would consider replacing in follow the game independently.
But dissuading/forbidding spectatorship isn’t really going to do much? It will just crumble the enjoyment of people who want to solve in a relaxed atmosphere.

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Games never used to have lists and lists of spectators. It used to be lists and lists of back ups, so there has been a culteral shift.

I think maybe 80% have no desire to play a game. That’s fine. But I think 20% are contaminated for no real reason.

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i disagree vehemently with this assessment.

This is true I agree.

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I mean I think that’s also a smaller player base problem too

Like usually backups are from people that want to play the game but the games full

Specs are just people that don’t really want to play

I get where you’re coming from in that it reduces the amount of backups if they’re needed tho

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this “cultural shift” has absolutely been a healthy one.
Most people do not have infinitely renewable WiM for playing FM, sorry to say.