[Balance Talk] Fixing Airlock, if possible

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#21

That makes absolutely no sense

#22

Deaths from meteors at the very least should be random

#23

you’re not overly biased because it’s your opinion
you are because the move affected your sleep schedule which you are pissed about

#24

Yes, and I feel like players shouldn’t be pushed towards breaking their sleep schedule
I don’t think that’s an aim in the game
Do you not agree

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#25

perhaps.

I have no clue, in the canon version of the game, what the computer decides randomly and what it decides intently

i should probs ask the devs about that

#26

Would you be okay with a rand
i would not consider locking the attack to only ship-aligned players as that makes zero sense from a lore perspective

i would however consider randing it

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#27

It still becomes a last throw of the dice choice for the ship without being one sided every time

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#28

Randing it would be the fairest, I guess.
Because it’s still giving a higher chance to the losing side to recover; but it also doesn’t set the chance for the winning’s sides efforts to 0 and let people weaponise the host

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#29

Is predator broke with the ability to endlessly spam 2 kills per warp?

#30

I think a lot of the roles are broken

#31

No
because without ambassador + queen, or bio converts, you cannot win at the secret destination without informant. you also probably have no godfathers in that case unless you have sympath, since no converts.

#32

granted, i’ve found that it’s relatively rare for the game to get to the secret destination

#33

weaponizing and angleshooting the host’s decisions is a pretty big factor in winning, which is why it’s not really so frowned upon in games like botc and i guess by comparison, airlock

#34

in the canon version of this game, the host is an AI is the thing

#35

it also fears cats

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#36

there’s obviously some kinds of angleshooting that are no but generally it’s a good idea to ask yourself “what would the host do”

#37

for instance, i knew PKR was killed because aliens were in an absolutely horrible spot
and i was correct

#38

Biologist is something that I wouldn’t say is unbalanced, but rather extremely swingy
If we’re going to completely overhaul the game for balance I’d say

  • Biologist needs a cap on infections
  • Biologist needs a cap on curing infections
  • Biologists’ results needs to be given at EoD rather than immediately
  • Galley Officer is fine actually
  • Science Officer is fine on paper
  • Comms Officer is fine, it’s last ability is limited enough that it’s a 50/50 if you’re lying
  • Medical Officer is a parity cop mixed with a Priest, I feel like it shouldn’t be able to revive + scan people all at the same time
  • Security seems fine
  • Engineer’s massive parity check needs a buff or complete overhaul. It’s really weak compared to Med Officer.
  • Navigator seems fine at a glance. I don’t like the idea of us winning at D3 (?) with a Nav convert, though
  • Technician’s anti-hack ability just seems overall useless. I’d like a rework but I suppose it can be left alone. It’s really niche though.
  • Technician’s hack seems balanced enough.
  • Ensign is literally just a galley officer. Needs reworking.
  • Quartermaster seems fine.
  • Transportation Chief is extremely swingy. Passive 1 needs removed; I feel like if it’s converted it shouldn’t be able to just swap it over to a better alien when it’s already a massively powerful role.
  • Dead > < Alive ability would be fine if Passive 1 is removed I think
  • Role swap is fine as well even if it’s a parity cop in a sense
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#39

oh I completely forgot the alien roles and passengers

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#40

:frowning:

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