Blood on the Forums VI: Monsta Jam (Evil wins)

I still need Wazza here or someone I can be close to 100% sure is town to whisper to.
I’ve got big ideas and yet I know how risky they would be.

Wazza was outed scum earlier. Did something change?

Excuse me what? Since when?!

Though I’m now seeing that they said it was a reaction test, but that isn’t very credible when the one they whispered was Eli.

I’m fairly sure from how Wazza has reacted that they have to be town.
I said it once and I’ll say it again.

Either I’m so deep in Wazza’s pocket and they must’ve planned for this the entire time. (Which I doubt)
Or they’re town.

Can you give more details?

Of course. There are 2 separate occasions:

Firstly day 1, when I claimed just normal gambler to Wazza (accidentally) and they coordinated for me/Marsh to whisper each other and then basically set up a thunderdome. They simply seemed happy thinking they had caught a scum and then when I revealed that I was a philo!Gambler they didn’t push on me.

Secondly, this is day 2 but following from my whispers with them day 1. Wazza told me to self guess as gambler because they “wanted me to survive”. Day 2 near the beginning Wazza said they had a confirmed scum. However, while Wazza was away from thread I revealed that I had “followed what Wazza wanted” and yet at the same time “I guessed myself as Philosopher”.

When Wazza was in thread next they questioned me and I revealed that I had talked to Amelia/Tan to check what I had to guess myself as to survive and they confirmed it was Philo. So myself, assuming that Wazza just wanted me alive, revealed to Wazza that I did follow what they wanted and that I self guessed as Philo so I’d live “like they wanted”. Wazza revealed that their lead had disappeared and it just oozed towniness.

As their reasoning for basically lying to me again (gdi Wazza, stop lying to me in this game) was really towny. As it’d be myself outright confirmed and that makes sense from a town perspective.

Makes sense.

I don’t understand how gambling yourself would provide any information. Why did Wazza ask you to do that and why did you obey? Instead, it would have made much more sense for you and Marshal to gamble each other.

Wazza wanted me to gamble myself incorrectly so I died and ended up confirmed

Because I trusted Wazza had my best intentions in mind instead of trying to get me killed.
Also, because I wanted to stay alive so I could do something big tonight instead of risking my life.

*Instead of risking my life too early

wazza didn’t actually tell me he was doing an rt, he just said the keyword is pancake
then he pinged me and said pancake
i had no idea what it meant

Alright, i’ve read up

I think i blanket prefer cheese over pigeon

night’s probably just a villager i dont think she can fake that
read nuance level

im pretty sure the 3 above night are all pretty likely good, it’s the ones below (Cheese Pigeon) that are meh

so no culting from me 4 a bit

/pardon Wazza

/execute cheese

pigeon vote pending

I do not consider getting a philosopher killed a townie thing to do. The only way you would be confirmed is if you were dead, which contradicts the following statement.

If you wanted to stay alive, then you could not have confirmed yourself. If you confirmed yourself, you would be dead. These two options are mutually exclusive.

I’d like to know why you two didn’t do this.

Idk, I was just somewhat following orders from someone I’m basically towncoring.
Like, I don’t see what’s so hard to understand about that

actually
what if i executed cheese because I want to remove the chance I turn evil :flushed:

although with pidgeon malfunctioning me id need to run the numbers again

@Marshal Would you like to gamble PKR as Philosopher tonight?
@PokemonKidRyan Would you like to gamble Marshal as Gambler tonight?

  1. I’m fairly sure Marsh said they gambled me (and chose incorrectly on purpose) and are alive therefore I’m 100% confirmed (or they’re drunk)
  2. It’s one of 3 possibilities I currently have today. I want Wazza here so I can discuss the 3.