I think it’s more so not trying at all to get themselves killed d1 when it would be my first instinct in this setup. They also claimed to drunk cloned first but that’s probably just me confbiasing tbh. Sailors main confirmability is their death immunity.
And tbh I kinda dove down the Arctic tunnel after seeing how SoD was going. I was originally going to push night way more but their play made no sense if night was LM
Also mechanically speaking I was Exorcised n2 when Eli was dead
And if Arctic really is Sailor from your POV most of the time you have time to kill both me and PKR as well
This is mainly what i’m focused on but it has it’s issues (I.E. if arctic isn’t saved and you are in fact wolves we have at best a 50% chance of winning because you can just WiFoM LM and not post)
Also an additional reason I thin cloned has to be with them is whisper history since he connects them
Like Arctic didn’t actually reevaluate his initial read that cloned was scum in Eli/cloned he just knew he had to contest the Chef 1 to call me and PKR scum together
Tbh my issue is that even if I believe you (which I will have to think on, PKR was, like, incredibly wolfy and mechanically if he’s evil you are too but I can’t pin much specifically against you) basically nobody else does and I’m not going to use my ghostvote and the last thign we want is a tie
I realize it’s not perfect and that why I don’t want it to be my main argument. Rather those things are just things in my favor as opposed to Arctic and night who have no such mech benefit
If we’re going on purely mech Occams Razor says Arctic is always a better execution. Obviously I don’t want this to be the only part of my case but I do think it’s at least somewhat significant
manipulating a player into nominating while they are not fully aware of the situation is quite suspicious. Why did you ask Jane to nominate me?
Can you like summarize the case on me/PKR/El
Cuz I legit don’t know what it even is
Who do you think are the dead wolves? I’m still skeptical about Wazza. Although they tried to solve the philosopher-gambler slots, they didn’t do it optimally.
Well for starters PKR was, like, very very wolfy today (He was intentionally derailing thread, whispering me just to annoy arctic, defending you in a very strange way and overall responded pretty terribly to artic’s case.
From the way he posted if He/You is the team you’re almost definitely holding because he kept doing this weird WiFoM thing trying to (if evil) sow doubt into who held the monsta which makes no sense because we already suspected you.
You whispered eli first out of anybody (and he has to be the last wolf in this scenario), soft-defended both Eli and PKR at different points when they were getting heat, and stuck with the politician claim only after whispering eli which makes sense if he’s spy.
Basically it’s “PKR has been wolfy today and mechanically if he’s evil the team has to be you/him/eli, which makes reasonable sense as a team with how you’ve interacted”
Which is why I wasn’t super interested in a towncase on yourself because you can’t really defend against those points
Also people generally townread arctic a lot and If he’s good it’s… unlikely that you are, because Night + PKR can’t be a thing.
That i’m skeptical on, I think people aren’t giving his game enough credit but marl is like ultra certain of it
I asked him to claim to me cuz he said he would to some one in thread
He said 3 for 3
I said 3 for 3 means he’s scared
He broke whisper
Why do people think Arctic is town at all? He flipped his read on PKR who he said was never scum to openwolf in like 30 min. I can understand how he would switch from cloned to Eli if town cuz like the chef info would have to be wrong in that case
because i was operating under the assumption people were playing ideally, and claiming a red/greencheck would have probably netted him the win
then i realised it’s PKR
so not playing optimally isn’t that farfetched