BotF IV discussion thread

townsfolk

prophet
bon viviant
mole (altered from standard; he receives an out-of-play minion to bluff as)
magician
lion tamer
astrologer
noble
amnesiac
pixie
knight
stableboy
coachman
scavenger

outsiders

golem
plague doctor
hermit
charlatan

minions

wizard
mephit
??? (released minion 1)
??? (released minion 2)

demons

al-hadikha
lleech
creeping terror
palabra de dios

Poisoner is always solid to use, since it’s tricky to confirm its existence.
Baron is out, it changes setup.
Scarlet Woman would be an amazing Mole bluff, since they could trick Demon into willingly dying, but it doesn’t work as a Plague Doctor effect. Out.
Spy can’t be bluffed by Mole, and is useless with Plague Doctor. Out.
The only Minion from S&V that isn’t incredibly public with its existence (and therefore works for Mole) is Witch, and Witch works well for a Plague Doctor as well, since it can be used by ST to curb aggro town who keep running the nominations.
Godfather and Assassin don’t work for Mole, and Assassin in particular is unfair to have for Plague Doctor. Out.
DA sounds good on paper until you realize that no town in this script can mimic its effect, so DA being in play would be known as soon as an execution failed. Out.
Mastermind actually works as a Plague Doctor ability where SW doesn’t, and can be used by Mole to get the Demon to willingly die if they’re clever about it.

Final three:
Poisoner
Witch
Mastermind
Pick two of those, they’ll work for you.

@Marshal thoughts?

poisioner and mastermind seem like best ngl, although witch would be good for plague doctor

I also think that witch could be hard for mole if demon asks for his target at SoD

Unlike the rest, Witch could have the tendency as a mole bluff to become incredibly dangerous fast if the demon is smart and asks for the target at SoD / mole is unlucky

Witch isn’t incredibly public normally but when it confirms its own existence, it does become so

So ATM i’m kind of leaning towards MM / Poisoner

Will psychopath be using the RPS mechanic?

No psychopath
Yet another minion that cannot exist with mole

Actually, hold it. It occurs to me that Mastermind doesn’t work well with… actually, any of your Demons.
Creeping Terror and Al-Hadikha confirm their presence by the fact that they affect multiple people each night, Palabra’s kill method confirms its presence, and Lleech dies when its poison target does, so Masterminding on that doesn’t work either.

fuck

uh

am i just cornered out of a usable fourth minion from any of the released or unreleased roles

Add fearmonger, goblin and psychopath, just so the entire evil team can instantly confirm their presence for the hell of it

How can mole handle getting a witch bluff if demon asks for his target at SoD every day
pls explain

If you bend on having Mole on the script, this whole problem vanishes.

I could bend on having plague doctor and add goblin back

So let’s do that

Would that permit snitch @Tangeld