Buff Aristocrat's Double-Vote

Rabble-Rouse (Day ability) - Change all abstain votes to execute if you voted execute, or pardon if you voted pardon. (2 use)

I think this would make Aristocrat significantly stronger and funner to play.

UPDATE

This ability would have to be hidden; e.g. abstains would still appear as abstains. Also, if Noble retains double-vote, his second vote would have to be hidden also.

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Nice ability but I feel like it could be used to decide whether a person is noble or aristo and it could also out aristo being in game if people who abstained had their vote turned to pardon/execute.

Examples:

Prince: Hey 8 you claimed noble right?

8 (Converted Noble): Yeah I did

Prince: Use noble twin then or instant execute.

Fails to use noble twin instantly dead


Abstainer: my vote turned into pardon! we have an aristo

Abstainer 2: Mine too

Abstainer 3: Same here.

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And then you hang all the noble claims.

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People can also see people who haven’t voted have their vote turned into pardon/execute.

So imo the way to fix it is to:

Hide the votes from the public (meaning abstainers will still look like they abstained) and remove noble twin’s feedback or give the ability the same feedback as noble twin.

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Fails to use noble twin instantly dead

That is already a problem in Cult games.

Yeah but we should try to make it not happen. By reworking abilities. If we have this then it will be a lot more common.

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I agree, I had already proposed in an earlier thread that we hide the noble’s second vote because of this.

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Good suggestion

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I like the idea. It is a very powerful action, but it would also out the aristocrat. I would rather have them be able to change another person’s vote to what they selected

How would it out them tho if the abstains still appear as abstains?

The abstainers know they abstained, and if one of those were BD, could out the aristocrat

Yeah but the abstains still appear as abstains so they wouldn’t know.

Then the numbers wouldn’t add up, outing the aristocrat to everyone. Also, the idea looks useful only in the early game, and since the aristocrat’s only reasonable claim is noble, it looks more like a ‘suicide’ play if anyone questions you; which will happen

Nobody’s counting

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Boy I would be counting every vote lol. We want this game to be about social deduction, not maths. That is the only reason I don’t like this suggestion.

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Then make the ability invisible unless it affects the outcome of the trial.