Castle Desolation - Apprentice, WindwardAway, Italy, Nightingale and Gorta are victorious!

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#4622

If you think about it, each evil having to get 4 crystals for themselves is much more difficult than the entire good alignment needing 10 crystals together

Plus i think in general good wincons were probably easier

#4623

My class was pretty busted though

although i guess it doesnā€™t really matter if i just get murder hoboed

#4624

Oh I talked that out with Emilia, it was also partly my fault

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#4625

my wincon was to get 6 crystals and I also needed 4 to be able to escape

see why I didnā€™t even try to complete the wincon?

#4626

yeah thatā€™s dumb as fuck

emilia needed to get as many crystals as the entire good alignment

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#4627

This is actually what I found confusing because I had no idea if I could still win, until Emilia managed to kill Aelin

#4628

Also

My alignment was good but I had to protect whoever the current sovereign was and get the sovereign killers killed, so I basically had a neutral wincon because even when the sovereign was evil I had to help them win

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#4629

So if I sided with good when the sovereign was evil it was gamethrowing

And if I murdered an evil sovereign it would also be gamethrowing

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#4630

Majority based mechanics (and sovereign) are dumb in a game where everyone has a different wincon

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#4631

peak game design

#4632

Somehow I managed to win without gamethrowing and idk how

#4633

My original wincon actually said, survive to see the sovereign win and escape, and ensure that no players who have killed a sovereign are still alive at the end of the game

So I literally thought I had to be the last to escape, and if the sovereign for some reason didnā€™t have to escape, Iā€™d just lose

#4634

To be honest a lot of the things Iā€™m shitting on the game for can also be fixed by people not playing badly

people seem to get their order of priorities wrong

it should be winning first, allies second

zone got this wrong :upside_down_face:

#4635

It got changed eventually, I think sometime after Hippo died lol

#4636

I was forced to ally in order to win after Hippo died

Cause I had to ally first with Hippo and he chose to ally with App, Whysper and me and then literally gave Marl his grimoire

And since he was hiding in his chambers I couldnā€™t guard him there so I just afkā€™d in the main hall for a week

#4637

And it was boring so I finally decided to explore, and as soon as I did Hippo fucking died lol

#4638

Yeah, this is a huge-ass problem in every misc that runs here.

Same shit happened in Death City where good players kept allying with people who openclaimed evil and then when the only players that won were evilsā€¦ yeah. Or in every Danganronpa match where you have people who act as accomplices to blackeneds for no reason.

Itā€™s kind of why I donā€™t play miscs here anymore as people will just throw because of allies.

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#4639

So the afkā€™ing from my end was partly because I wasnā€™t around for half the action processing, and partly because I didnā€™t know what else to do for my wincon except stand guard in case Hippo got murdered here, since he was literally not going anywhere else

#4640

If I ever host a misc iā€™m making it competitive and will be using WotM heavily

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#4641

It should be something thats against wincon or rules of game.

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